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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Your arguments are nothing but insults.


Interesting when followed by this statement

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my original message was not intended for closed-minded, hateful folks like you and CHS.


Do I need to point out the irony and hypocrisy?


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
"Why is Akron call the Zips?" I don't know. Akron is the rubber capital of the world.

My son is a freshman at Akron and he doesnt even know that, and as a Kent St guy I asked him why the Akron mascot is a big rat?


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Well I can't be as bad since I'm not racist.

And I'm better than you cause you constantly speak up in defense or of them.

But oh well. Dying breed. You aren't relevant anymore.





You are the reason why ....


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that's fine.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Are you blind?
You must be because you keep calling for unity and coming together yet completely miss what is before your very eyes!

Did you not see the two, yes two natural disasters that hit this Country in what? Two weeks?

The good ole boys from the swamps traveled many miles to rescue people from the Houston flood! The Cajun Navy came and picked up people of ALL races and religions and hauled them to safety!

You don't think there were KKK in that group? Didn't matter though because this was all about Americans coming to the aid of other Americans in need!

There were Black folks carrying White folks and White folks carrying Black folks while Hispanic folks pitched in too!

You don't think there were BLM members in the group?

Republicans carried Democrats and vice versa.
Trump supporters carried Hillary folks to safety while Hillary folks carried and gave fresh water to Trump supporters!

Now the Libs and the Right, the Brave and the Lily Livered are sending cash and supplies from all over the Country to help them folks survive and recover!

Open your eyes! We fight among ourselves until someone or something comes killing us from the outside, then God help them cuz we Americans fight them together!

Always have.
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that's a good point.

we seem to argue in america because we're bored and have nothing else better to do.

as soon as something happens, all the crap goes out the window and we help each other.


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I am old and you are young and I have seen it probably 25 times!

America comes together when someone from outside comes wielding a club!

Always has.
Always will.

We fought and clawed our way across this wilderness from the beginning, back then it was only Blacks and Whites and trees, and turned it into the shining light it can be and is. It is in the American DNA to fight and claw and when nobody wants to mess with us, we mess with us.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
that's a good point.

we seem to argue in america because we're bored and have nothing else better to do.

as soon as something happens, all the crap goes out the window and we help each other.


So why do we seem to need this day-to-day sniping among ourselves... when ALL OF US can see how stupidly tribal and counterproductive partisan behavior like this is?


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Somehow or other we've been conditioned to react the way we've seen the debate go on the news channels, probably started with Crossfire on CNN in days gone by.

During all that time the pundits on all channels have reduced our view of our neighbors and their view of ourselves into something that can be explained in a sound bite and nothing could be further from the truth.

Before Romney lost, I listened to Beck and Limbaugh every day. Couple days after that I pretty much stopped for about two years and when I came back to it I only listened to Beck as he seemed to be the only one that tried to keep some objectivity on Trump. Even Limbaugh was on the band wagon so I barely tuned in.

I suggest we turn off the news, go out and look at the sky, notice that it's still there, hasn't fallen and get on with our lives.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
<<sigh>>

The same people say the same damn things on almost every freaking thread. You guys aren't even addressing the the topic. It's just your usual monopolistic BS of blaming the other side.



Yet you continue to whine about it like you are have some say in the matter. You don't. Go scold some school kids like you've done for most of your life because we don't care.


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"back then it was only Blacks and Whites and trees"

And Latino...Portuguese, and Spanish, and let's not forget the few million Native Americans. But I do understand why you wouldn't want to mention them at all in this thread.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
"back then it was only Blacks and Whites and trees"

And Latino...Portuguese, and Spanish, and let's not forget the few million Native Americans. But I do understand why you wouldn't want to mention them at all in this thread.


No, back then Americans were Blacks and Whites. Latino's were part of Mexico, as was Texas. Portuguese and Spanish were not Americans, nor were the Dutch at that time. We had not yet made the Louisiana Purchase bringing others into the fold.

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"back then it was only Blacks and Whites and trees"

And Latino...Portuguese, and Spanish, and let's not forget the few million Native Americans. But I do understand why you wouldn't want to mention them at all in this thread.


No, back then Americans were Blacks and Whites. Latino's were part of Mexico, as was Texas. Portuguese and Spanish were not Americans, nor were the Dutch at that time. We had not yet made the Louisiana Purchase bringing others into the fold.


rofl Boy, do you need a history lesson or two there son.


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Prove me wrong bucko.

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And Native Americans were everywhere, for a while.


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They were the Enemy we fought and clawed against.

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Yeah, genocide and taking their country from them was never part of the plan.


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They were the worst kind of thieves and cattle rustlers. They had no respect for the property of others.

Now I know you and your kind like to judge people of the past by todays standards but that is how they were seen back then.

They had no concept of private property. It was a cultural thing.

They allied themselves with the British and used Guerrilla warfare tactics in the torture and slaughter of our families.

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It's funny how you speak of Natives having no respect for the properties of others when at one time this entire nation belonged to them.

Me and my kind? You mean those that believe stealing an entire nation from its people is wrong?

However, you are wrong about them having "no concept of private property". They understood the concept just fine, they just thought it was foolish.

They felt the earth belonged to everyone. To only take what you need and leave the earth to rest.

Now we have a nation of greed, where people make excuses to trash it and exploit it.

Isn't progress wonderful!?


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How wonderful and pretty was their idea!

The Dodo bird had a wonderful idea that laying one, large and beautiful egg would make life easier and better.

Fail!

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You talk a good talk.

But, to say that native Americans didn't value private property is ingenious, and deceptive. Remember, well before the "white man" came, native Americans were warring with each other over land.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
How wonderful and pretty was their idea!

The Dodo bird had a wonderful idea that laying one, large and beautiful egg would make life easier and better.

Fail!


The idea was ideal, but human nature is a powerful force.

I just know that there's no excuse for lying to them and breaking every treaty we made with them. There was nothing Christian about any of that.


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Also, the Native Americans had 10's of Thousands of years to build their population to a couple million people who lived to be 35 if they were lucky.

In just a couple of hundred years we have built out population to 300+ million people, living into their 80's.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
How wonderful and pretty was their idea!

The Dodo bird had a wonderful idea that laying one, large and beautiful egg would make life easier and better.

Fail!


The dodo didn't have a choice.

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And what does that have to do with breaking all of the treaties we signed with them?


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Play the old lady nit picker as you like.

You owe the 300 million alive Americans today an apology for wishing them dead.

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Yes it makes lying to Native Americans over and over again perfectly fine.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Prove me wrong bucko.


http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm



The earliest people in the Americas were people of the Negritic African race, who entered the Americas perhaps as early as 100,000 years ago, by way of the bering straight and about thirty thousand years ago in a worldwide maritime undertaking that included journeys from the then wet and lake filled Sahara towards the Indian Ocean and the Pacific, and from West Africa across the Atlantic Ocean towards the Americas.
According to the Gladwin Thesis, this ancient journey occurred, particularly about 75,000 years ago and included Black Pygmies, Black Negritic peoples and Black Australoids similar to the Aboriginal Black people of Australia and parts of Asia, including India.


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So, you're telling me that 100,000 years ago man made climate change was happening? And 30,000 years ago the Sahara desert was an Oasis?

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100,000 years ago, by way of the bering straight and about thirty thousand years ago in a worldwide maritime undertaking that included journeys from the then wet and lake filled Sahara


Weird.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
They were the Enemy we fought and clawed against.



The majority of Native American's deaths were from white men diseases not from fighting in wars. But you probably don't consider them human either, so what do you care?


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Weird.


Yeah, you are weird.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg


Weird.


Yeah, you are weird.


No, I am afraid I have to agree with Arch on this one. rofl

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Weird.


Yeah, you are weird.


Yup.

So, the Sahara.......30,000 years ago, was it wet and plush?

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Prove me wrong bucko.


http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm



The earliest people in the Americas were people of the Negritic African race.



So I guess the Native Americans killed them off.

SHAME!

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Weird.


Yeah, you are weird.


Yup.

So, the Sahara.......30,000 years ago, was it wet and plush?



Where did PerfectSpiral go?

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Away from a ridiculous and confusing argument.

I don't understand what point Arch is trying to make with climate change? Dude literally spun out of the argument about natives and into climate change.


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Weird.


Yeah, you are weird.


Yup.

So, the Sahara.......30,000 years ago, was it wet and plush?



Where did PerfectSpiral go?


His carriage turned back into a pumpkin.


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"back then it was only Blacks and Whites and trees"

And Latino...Portuguese, and Spanish, and let's not forget the few million Native Americans. But I do understand why you wouldn't want to mention them at all in this thread.


No, back then Americans were Blacks and Whites. Latino's were part of Mexico, as was Texas. Portuguese and Spanish were not Americans, nor were the Dutch at that time. We had not yet made the Louisiana Purchase bringing others into the fold.


rofl Boy, do you need a history lesson or two there son.


Dude had me dying at the Dutch comment.
"Yes, the Dutch were also not part of America because."
*shuffles through notes hastily*
"The Louisiana purchase."

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