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They were developing their program even with sanctions on them.

So no, sanctions wouldn't work.

But guess what did? The deal obama cut.

Diplomacy at its finest.

Yea, right. That is the great deal that is threatening our bases and cities today.

Good job O

So what would you have done differently, 40?

In all fairness, how have all the "deals" with north korea work?

The "deal" where they can't get nukes?

The "deal" where they cant have ICBMS?

The "deal" where they can't test their ICBMs.

The "deal" where the world would feed their people if they just demilitarized.

Etc.

Just because a deal doesn't work with one country doesn't mean it won't work with the next.

you learn your lessons from the past in order to make a better deal with another country, that way the chance of success is better.

You don't just throw your hands up and say screw it to everyone else.

Iran is complying with the deal. So right now people are literally complaining about nothing.

Relative peace for 53 years is a pretty good indication that diplomacy has been fairly effective. Better than Sabre rattling and war mongering IMO..but whatever.

Fair enough. I wasn't really complaining......just pointing out how, when you make deals with countries that don't keep them, the deals suck.

Yes. I would have stayed a community organizer and not put our Nation through this mess.

So allowing NK to obtain nuclear weapons is what the left calls "working" ....man what have you all become? JFK would be rolling in his grave.

They have very little experience with the "W" word.
Gimme, they get.

They weren't sanctioned hard enough.

I'm back lol....

We must understand China is not and more than likely will never be our friend. We're being diplomatic with them letting them know our intentions. Sometimes you have to pull a George Jr and tell China we're gonna handle this with or without you. Unlike Jr and the WMD, you better be right.

Swish thinks because the sanctions we set forth haven't worked. I say we're not hard enough on NK yet.

Iran hasn't fired missles like NK. It doesn't mean they're not building them in secret like NK.

Nobody likes war but sometimes it's inevitable when you're dealing with irrational jackasses.

No, sanctions weren't working.

But again, hey are complying which means you really don't have anything to complain about. You're just complaining for your own health at this point.

Diplomacy worked. Deal with it.

C'mon Swish. Isn't cutting off the supply lines of the enemy during war a major strategic tactic? Let's do that before we get to war. You should know by dealing with folks on this board it's very difficult dealing with people that just won't look at things from a different point of view.

So we tried some minor sanctions. They didn't work. That doesn't mean tightening the noose won't work. Also doesn't mean it will.

You can't say diplomacy is working. Did they just develop these missiles the last 6 months? They've been working on them for YEARS man. I think they're just feeling Trump out (hopefully). Obama gave us this so we won't go nuclear, what will Trump give us?

Who really knows what Iran is up to. Hopefully we have better intel than George Jr had with Iraq.

I can absolutely say they are working because they ARE.

Why must everything be solved with sanctions? Why can't we just do a deal such as this? Why are you still complaining about something that is CLEARLY working?

At this point I'm left with nothing else to believe that you hate the deal for no other reason than because it has Obamas name on it.

This was a smart deal supported by over 30 countries. I'll take a global effort over anything you have to say on it.

Ummm I voted for Obama not once but twice....shame on me. I could tell you what I love that Obama did and what I hate that he did. We can do that over a beer sometime.

Just because you say they're working doesn't make it true. So you're 100% sure Iran isn't building nuclear weapons? Also, you might want to read up on the backgrounds of the Iranians he released in the prisoner swap.

I like how you say sanctions don't work. Why are they part of the punishment in this deal?

There's no way to prove you did.

Regardless, how do we know that Russia isn't in contact with aliens? How do we know that Germany isn't trying to resurrect Hitler? Are you 100% sure that you aren't gay? You can say you aren't, but there's no way to verify it.

Guess I gotta sanction you in order to know the answer.

I hope I made myself clear as to why your comments make zero sense.

You don't have to take my word for it. Use google and find the sources yourself. Every 90 days, we have to certify that Iran is in compliance with the deal.

And guess who recently signed it? That's right, the trump administration.

Using your logic, we shouldn't make deals with any country, EVER, because there's no way to know for 100% certainty that they aren't trying to be sneaky.

I'd love to have a beer with you, but I can't verify with 100% certainty hat you won't drug my drink and take my kidneys.

LMAO...man you can't answer questions.

FYI; Prove I voted for Obama is easy. You want my democratic registration for the years 1992-2016. I was a registered republican twice. Reagan and Trump. Trump really isn't a republican.

Prove I'm not gay? Try to stick your thingy in me and you'll get proof my friend.

LMAO. I do agree with Vers and your closed-mindedness. Take care man.

I answered your question. You just don't like the response.

You're throwing out close minded rhetoric now because you have no leg to stand on.

You clearly don't know the first thing about diplomacy, or negotiating, and more importantly, you lack situational awareness and the ability to think critically from multiple perspectives.

Of course you agree with Vers. Ignorant people tend to stick together. Like packs.

I just read the thread title. I did NOT read one post in the entire thread. But, let me take a guess as to how it's gone thus far:

40, Diam, Eric, Fish, Eve, Haus, day, arch, and peen all liked what he had to say [if they responded.]

Swish, Perfect, Pit, Kong, OCD, Rocket, Clem, and CHS all trashed the president [if they responded.]

DC, 05, Devil, and maybe even 888 saw both good and bad in what Trump had to say [if they responded]

How did I do?

Darn, what did I do? I just opened up a box where arch can insult my family members again call me a liar about my son's cancer and my tumor while Swish can tell me to "shut up," and that I am a "white supremacist," and "irrelevant," and how much everyone on the board "hates" me.

Well you were pretty close. Here is the breakdown...

40, Diam, Eric, Fish, Eve, Haus, day, arch, and peen all watched the speech and liked it.

While Swish, Perfect, Pit, Kong, OCD, Rocket, Clem, and CHS did not watch the speech and hated it.

I didn't watch because I was busy, but the bits I've heard don't surprise me. More chest thumping from the President of the United Right.

Impressively accurate. Hey pro Trumpers lead 9-8

I haven't watched the speech.

Nor have I, yet.

It's cool. Luckily for Vers, you don't have to do anything to affirm his positions, they're automatically right.

Glad Venezuela didn't waste the socialists' time by nationalizing private businesses and went straight into corruption like a true socialist state.

+1 10-8

I think this might be the greatest post of all time on dawgtalkers.

The speech was extraordinary for our country. Nice to have a real leader at last! MAGA

I'm convinced Trump wants to bring us to the brink of nuclear war, only to actually use diplomacy to avoid it and then remind everyone on Twitter every day how he is a hero for not going to war.

Welcome to the Board, TONY!
I already like the way you think!

You can go now as your replacement has arrived in TONY!

Ya know, You don't get on the National Stage of the UN and tell a country your going to destroy them. After he says people cheer for him?

WTH is wrong with him, WTH is wrong with people...are folks insane....I wake up some days thinking im living in the Twilight Zone.

I haven't watched it, but that's mostly reflective of how much I care about it.

I will say that when I'm alone in the darkness and life seems to be at that eerie stillness, that I'm forced to find it amusing that people complain about him not 'sounding Presidential'. I mean, one of the few things we all agree on is that we hate how politicians hide behind double speak and platitudes, how they say a lot of words but don't actually speak anything of substance.

But they want to criticize the guy for not speaking like a politician? *scratch my head* My guess is that if Trump came out and said he decided against building the wall and that anyone who didn't like it could go ride a bike without a seat, not a one of these folks who are upset about him not sounding Presidential would have a lick to say about his language.

Would it be wrong of me to also point out that the intention behind the structure and framework at the Founding of our government was to create a system whereby the common man could participate and hold office? To say that people in office should have to speak or sound a certain way in order to be deemed 'qualified' smacks of smug elitism as well as rank prejudice and discrimination.

Being plain spoken I think is going to be a recipe for success in politics over the next couple of cycles. Kid Rock is probably a little too colorful in his language for most people, but I think the population at large is ready to stop being talked down to. What really encourages me about this prospect is that I think it will motivate more 'common' people to get involved as was originally intended and chip away at the hold career politicians (also what I refer to as the American noble class) have in gov't.

If our President takes the World stage and acts like a sissy in the face of deadly threats would you feel safer?

For me, it's not just his vocabulary.
Most of the time, I'm diametrically opposed to the content, as well.

Being opposed to the content or policy is one thing, but getting hung up over the verbage is another. Now don't get me wrong, I'm keenly aware of the importance of HOW something is said. I play that game everyday. What I think needs to be looked at and considered is the WHY something is said the way it is.

Gen. Patton was once asked about his course language he used when speaking to his soldiers. His answer (and I paraphrase) was "When I tell them something important, I give it to them loud and dirty. That way I know it'll stick".

Now, should we determine that Patton was a poor General because we may not like the way he spoke?

And so with Trump saying some rather 'in your face' things to North Korea. I understand the fear of that language antagonizing them, but one could also make a good argument that being softer and more measured with your response helps your enemy/opponent feel more emboldened. Case in point President Obama and his "red line" debacle.

What is funny about Trump's critics is that first and foremost, the just don't like him as a person. They use that as their baseline for all criticism of him going forward. They view him as a troglodyte and completely hide from the fact that he IS a successful person. Even if you believe he's had numerous shady dealings, he can't be successful at it and be stupid at the same time. Not to mention a man with ZERO political experience, in his first run for office manages to get the White House over an opponent who is one of the most experienced political people in D.C.

Dislike the man.
Disagree with his policy and agenda.
But acknowledge and respect the accomplishment and take the time to study how he achieved it.

I often felt President Obama came off as a condescending, arrogant, [censored]. But even though that is my opinion of him, those weren't the reasons I disagreed with his policies and agenda.

And for as much as I believe the country took a step back under his watch, I've always admitted to the genius of how he ran his campaign to get elected, which is pretty similar to how Trump ran his. Obama pushed the lofty sounding, yet undefined and vague mantra of "Hope and Change". This was done on purpose because it allowed people to fill in their own ideas of what "Hope and Change" meant to them, and attach it to him. It was a frankly brilliant way to take a vague concept and personalize the message at the same time.

FFW to Donald Trump. "Make America Great Again" isn't some fascist battle cry. It's "Hope and Change" but with different verbage and for a somewhat different audience. Everyone has their own ideas as to what "great" is defined as... their own ideas as to what the problems and ills of this Nation are.

There really are a lot parallels to their Presidential Campaigns between the slogan, use of social media, etc. It just requires people to stop being petty.