DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum It should be ...Kevin Hogan, the starter...

Does Kevin Hogan have a magic elixer to make his WRers catch the ball? Otherwise, I see no reason to bench Kizer for Hogan.

Kizer can throw it hard enough to stick it in their face masks. So, they need to be working on that.

j/c

Since forever the favorite player on this team has been the back up QB. Until he becomes the starter...

Probably because a lot of posters:

--want to blame Hue for everything.

--want to believe Williams is awesome.

--no one on defense is a problem.

--want us to believe the FO is awesome.

WHAT !!! Kelly Holcomb's not starting ???

No, but Brian Hoyer is. Just not here. lol

Hoyer is better than kizer. Do we need a 1-15 season to evaluate kizer?

Got to be kidding me

Holcomb was in a perfect spot due to his familiarity with Bruce Arians' offense IIRC.

A qb who moves the offense IS the better QB. Period.

Hogan moves the offense so he is > than the offense with Kizer in it. Period.

its kizer to start for the year so he can learn. its hues call. if we wanna win a few then start hogan

I want to win a few. Kizer sucks

ooking at the last couple of games, maybe it should have been Deshaun Watson.

Deshaun Watson is the third rookie with four passing touchdowns and one rushing touchdown in a game in NFL history. The others are Charlie Conerly (1948) and Hall-of-Famer Fran Tarkenton (1961).


Wasn't good enough for Clowns...

Neither was Wentz or Carr...

Beginning to agree with Vers on FO...

Strongly agree

I really wanted Carr, I didn’t like Kizer at ND and still don’t think he is an NFL QB

I wanted them to take Watson and was laughed off this board.

I wanted Watson also.

I wasn’t sure on Watson vs Garrett, but I know I wanted no part of Kizer before the 5th

Kizer should have stayed at ND another year. Who knows if that would have helped. His accuracy and decision making was questioned there also.

We get to see Watson torch us in 2 weeks!!!!

Every time Hogan comes in, people seem to catch the ball and we gain ground.

Start him. Why not?? It's about moving the chains and putting points on the board. No?

Agreed...We need points to win...Stalling drives doesn't give us points (actually makes it easier for the other team to put up points) Whomever can take us downfield deserves to start period.

Agreed.

I said it before the season started that Hogan was the best QB on the team. Every chance he gets, he does the most he can with the opportunity. He's basically a rookie too, but he saw enough last year for it to start to click for him. He's far from perfect, lacking in some areas but a lot more fun to watch and the team is more competitive with him at the helm than when Kizer is in.

You my friend have become the definition of a grumpy old man ... *L* .... your patience are long long long gone .... textboook grumpy old man ....

No doubt.

Hogan needs reps!! He sees the field much better than Kizer!!

Not confrontational PM. But I keep reading this and it bugs me. When will you know? What will be different and what will have changed. Flip it over: When will you, coaches, fans, etc. say nope, not the Man. Do I need to see the same bad process play out all season like these first four & getting worse by the week with little change much less progress. More of the uncorrected for the season junk from DK and others can't be needed to decide. We were sure in a hurry on JFF; Kessler's door got slammed; Brock got himself gone quickly. This just strikes me as ludicrous, and Hue is not controlling this well at all.

Just infuriating as a fan. I didn't expect a contender, but I also did not envision this bad play either. Check the trend thus far. Our defense is getting silly.

Wide ocean of difference in betwixt playing to win and playing not to lose. We are trying to win with the latter. Be ashamed you could do better and choose not to. If you can't find it, find someone who can. At least fail in a new direction in new ways.

The play is really bad because of the bad coaching. Every team is 2 steps ahead of this regime. We will get nowhere with Hue. Remember also that we passed on Watson!!!We get to see him in 2 weeks...LOL

It would be nice to see what Hogan can do with more reps. Everybody and their momma knows he moves the ball much better than Kizer. Lets see what he's got!!!

His limitations are fairly evident. I'm pretty sure the coaching staff is aware of what he's got, or doesn't have as the case may be.

Doesn't do any good to reply.He's in his own little world

Do tell. What are his limitations? Vs kizers limitations?

We seem to know plenty when we throw them off the field or out of Berea. But if you are the flavor of the day, we need to see more, the results be damned. Kessler might have won one or two. I see Kizer as Kessler 2.

Go, Browns. Seems like Hue is going with his gut.

Kizer will only get better if we hire an experienced OC. The play calling for the deer-in-the-headlights rookie is absolutely horrible!!!

Complete garbage.