Informed scientists are telling us that we are screwing up the home planet we live on. Future generations may be in jeopardy, NK is a serious problem, we have American citizens in trouble from serious storms, health insurance is an issue and our beloved POTUS wants to get in a flame war with the NFL players?
#iseeyourpriorities
Give it a rest man...a tweet takes 30 seconds out of his 20hr work day.
Trump doesn't work 20 hour days. He golfs way too much for that.
American sniper's wife Taya Kyle: An open letter to the NFL...
Dear NFL,
You were doing your part to bring people together and heal the world. That’s really how healing works. We heal by loving each other and leading by example; showing people what is possible when we love each other just as we are and not only recognize our differences but celebrate them and look at how we can use them together to make us jointly better than our separate parts. You were doing your part celebrating each other based on skills, talent and a joint vision without regard to color and religion.
You were doing your part and we were doing ours. We showed up cheering and groaning together to as one. We talked in the concession lines and commiserated and celebrated our team together. Did it ever occur to you that you and we were already a mix of backgrounds, races and religions? We were already living the dream you want, right in front of you.
Your desire to focus on division and anger has shattered what many people loved most about the sport. Football was really a metaphor for our ideal world -- different backgrounds, talents, political beliefs and histories as one big team with one big goal -- to do well, to win, TOGETHER.
You are asking us to abandon what we loved about togetherness and make choices of division. Will we stand with you? Will we stand with our flag? What does it mean? What does it mean if we buy a ticket or NFL gear? What does it mean if we don’t? It is the polar opposite of the easy togetherness we once loved in football.
It was simple – we loved you and you loved us – with all of our races, religions, different backgrounds and politics. Simplicity in a crazy world was pretty awesome.
You dear NFL, have taken that. You have lost me here.
If you ever want to get off your knees and get to work on building bridges, let me know. I have found screaming about the problems in service marriages or even standing in silence in front of them, hasn’t healed even one of them.
On the other hand, funding the Chris Kyle Frog Foundation, building a team and rolling up my sleeves to get in the trenches during my “off time” -- volunteering there outside of my paying jobs -- has proven to make real change.
You have a lot of strong guys, I am sure in the off season a lot of them could build some pretty big bridges if they care enough to do the hard work. That would involve getting off their knees and getting to work though. If I can do it while I raise two kids as their only parent and work through the greatest pain of my life, let’s see if they can do it for the issues they say they care so much about.
And it will work. Because it always works on the people who populate his base.
Meanwhile the only people who were reacting to his tweets on national TV, the only people who freak out about everything he says, are the ones not in his base. . . . .
I read Mrs. Kyle's letter you posted. I must say, I agree with a lot it.
I use to know a player for the Steelers, and he knew I was a huge Browns fan. He gave once gave me tickets to the Browns/Steeler game here in Pittsburgh, and I sat by with his family. It was the game that Cribbs ran one back, almost ran a second that led to a leading FG, and then Ben drove down the field to win the game (bad outcome, but man what an exciting game).
Anyways, I remember sitting in an entire family of African Americans, me being the only white person in the row. We didn't talk about politics, we didn't talk about what race, we didn't talk about anything other than jabs about the game, sheer amazement at Cribbs (the players mom had a bit of crush on him). When Ben scored that TD, she put me in a bear hug, lifted me up and shook me like a rag doll (I go about 235, and I realized where her son got his strength from).
I was at the opener this year (all before Trumps comments mind you). My brother, my dad, myself and two nephews. To my left was my father, and next to him were an African American couple with their son. The Browns sideline was focused by both families, after the all the hoopla with the protest in pre-season by the browns. My father commented about the police and military showing unity with the Browns. He got a slide eye from the father. Which is whatever - but when the game started and we started to come back and get back into the game, and DK ran that first TD in the end zone, my father went to high five him. Not high five a black man, not high five a democrat or republican, but high five a BROWNS FAN on a pretty damn good drive. No attempt was made by that man. In retrospect, I guess it is what it is nowadays. But thought about the game in Pittsburgh, where a black NFL Players family took me into their seats, into their home (Heinz Field), and we enjoyed the greatest game I was ever in attendance for.
The point is, football (to me) was always an escape of things for me and others. People can escape financial struggles, people can escape an argument with their wife, screaming kids, a horrible boss. I could escape my bi-polar depression, awful feelings of doing something bad to myself, etc. We could also ESCAPE RACE. We were not black, white, brown, yellow, we were FANS. So I think some of it as well as what we all have discussed, has this behind it as well. WE LOVE FOOTBALL. It has become our COUNTRYs game. It had surpassed baseball as America's past time. It brought people together like no other positive force could. I remember that game, after Ben's TD to win the game, I looked around. Black people high fiving white people, all cheering, all taking in that moment of achievement (for me it was heartbreak) but in that moment nothing else mattered in life, and everyone was just a fan. That has been taken away over the last year or so as well and I think this is what Mrs. Kyle is expressing much more eloquently than I am.
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Anyways, I remember sitting in an entire family of African Americans, me being the only white person in the row.
You know, I have talked about this game for YEARS to people and about this players mom and how she picked me up like a toy, this is the first time I have ever stated while telling it they were African American and I was the only white person in the row. I think that says something as well about where we are since these protest started.
And it will work. Because it always works on the people who populate his base.
Meanwhile the only people who were reacting to his tweets on national TV, the only people who freak out about everything he says, are the ones not in his base. . . . .
His base loves his racist, divisive and childish tweets, it's why they sit around all day on a key board in forums defending them.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
yessir, we are all racist. we love the klan. I have even converted my half black cousins and nephews and the black girl I used to date - they all lead rallys now on a weekly basis
yessir, we are all racist. we love the klan. I have even converted my half black cousins and nephews and the black girl I used to date - they all lead rallys now on a weekly basis
Dave Chappelle has a skit for that.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
yessir, we are all racist. we love the klan. I have even converted my half black cousins and nephews and the black girl I used to date - they all lead rallys now on a weekly basis
Don't just focus on the racist tweets his base loves and defends, focus some attention on how much his base loves and defends his divisive and childish tweets as well.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Clem, thanks for answering my post. Let me be clear that I really don't care that there's a 'Black History Month' and not a white one, or a Black Miss America, BET. All those things don't bother me a bit. A side note; I watch BET frequently lol.
I respect your answers and understand them. My post was just to point out some issues that I hear whites complain about. Many think it's divisive. When I hear whites beat there drum about black college week in Daytona, my reply is, I wish they would dedicate Hispanic college week, Asian college week etc, it's money being pumped in to your cess pool of a beach now you can afford to clean it up.
I will check out that thread....again thanks for your point of view.
But I carry a bottle of HOT SAUCE with me everywhere I go that shows I'm not a racist like the Queen of WHITE PRIVILEGE HILLARY you know her don't you LMAO
But I carry a bottle of HOT SAUCE with me everywhere I go that shows I'm not a racist like the Queen of WHITE PRIVILEGE HILLARY you know her don't you LMAO
Yuk Yuk. Kinda proves my point.
What do you carry with you that shows you're not divisive or childish?
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Clem, thanks for answering my post. Let me be clear that I really don't care that there's a 'Black History Month' and not a white one, or a Black Miss America, BET. All those things don't bother me a bit. A side note; I watch BET frequently lol.
I respect your answers and understand them. My post was just to point out some issues that I hear whites complain about. Many think it's divisive. When I hear whites beat there drum about black college week in Daytona, my reply is, I wish they would dedicate Hispanic college week, Asian college week etc, it's money being pumped in to your cess pool of a beach now you can afford to clean it up.
I will check out that thread....again thanks for your point of view.
I do hear those complaints from time to time, and as Clem stated so well, most of them really don't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.
The more forceful objections come as a result of things like violent crime rates, seething anti-white resentment, race-based affirmative action, disproportionate welfare usage, and a political environment that does not allow people to share their honest experiences about some groups without fear of retribution.
Even something like Black Lives Matter-- the name, by itself, is not objectionable (reasonable minds may differ on this.) The objectionable part comes when their protests devolve into destructive riots, they block highways for hours at a time, and their false rhetoric gets police officers and other innocents ambushed and attacked.
My veterans I.D. to let you know that I defended a country that gives people like you the right to say the things you do about me and others here . And I would do it again if called upon.
My veterans I.D. to let you know that I defended a country that gives people like you the right to say the things you do about me and others here . And I would do it again if called upon.
Thanks for your service. So do I. And so would I. You're welcome.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Informed scientists are telling us that we are screwing up the home planet we live on. Future generations may be in jeopardy, NK is a serious problem, we have American citizens in trouble from serious storms, health insurance is an issue and our beloved POTUS wants to get in a flame war with the NFL players?
#iseeyourpriorities
Hogwash!
Informed and well paid lying scientist. Future generations are going to be wealthier than us. NK is a joke and Trump has got this. We have American Citizens getting the best possible help from Trump in 3 storms than anyone else ever did in one!
And our beloved POTUS wants those NFL players who live the American Dream to get off their arse and at least pretend they appreciate anything other than looking at themselves in the mirror and kissing they muscles!
Its been over a year for these protest and yet there has not been one course of actual dialogue on what the real issue is.
Social injustice? ok, what social injustice? Equality, police brutality? etc. etc. Be specific.
What do these players reckon we do to fix the issue they perceive? How many of them have sat down with training academy's for police officer? how many of them have issued actual statements to the press on a list of things that can be done to further what they feel will address the situation? Have they spoken to the mayor, senators, etc. on passing legislation to make these new policies and programs? Have they been going into these urban neighborhoods with police to try to start dialogue between the citizens and police? I will answer this for you, NO...NO THEY HAVE NOT.
Its mighty easy to take a knee, its pretty darn hard to know what you are kneeing about. They want to use their "Platform", kneeing on the field is not a platform, talking to the media, talking to neighborhoods, talking to politicians, talking to law enforcement, THAT IS USING YOUR PLATFORM. What they are doing is accomplishing absolutely NOTHING.
sorry but the only people who don't know what they're kneeling over are the ones who haven't been paying attention in the first place.
it literally takes a google search, or listening to what colin kaepernick had to say when he started kneeling.
stop playing stupid.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
No answers for the key part of the post though huh? Other than taking a knee, they have wasted and entire years worth of airtime, publicity, etc for their cause. Man they are a marketing and PR nightmare!
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What do these players reckon we do to fix the issue they perceive? How many of them have sat down with training academy's for police officer? how many of them have issued actual statements to the press on a list of things that can be done to further what they feel will address the situation? Have they spoken to the mayor, senators, etc. on passing legislation to make these new policies and programs? Have they been going into these urban neighborhoods with police to try to start dialogue between the citizens and police? I will answer this for you, NO...NO THEY HAVE NOT.
Its mighty easy to take a knee, its pretty darn hard to know what you are kneeing about. They want to use their "Platform", kneeing on the field is not a platform, talking to the media, talking to neighborhoods, talking to politicians, talking to law enforcement, THAT IS USING YOUR PLATFORM. What they are doing is accomplishing absolutely NOTHING.
sorry but the only people who don't know what they're kneeling over are the ones who haven't been paying attention in the first place.
it literally takes a google search, or listening to what colin kaepernick had to say when he started kneeling.
stop playing stupid.
What ever happened to him? Did he lose interest?
again, if you'd pay attention, then you'd already know the answer to that.
and the answer is no. he's very much active. donating time and money all over the country.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
not only do these players donate money to efforts they believe in, but most of the nfl players ALREADY donate their time to programs that help kids in such all the time.
but this is what i'm talking about. the players ARE doing more than just kneeling, but guys like you don't want to hear it.
there are other protest and marches going on, but guys like you don't want to hear it.
99% of people on this board have no idea what the million man march is all about, when and where it's held without going to google to look it up.
but yea, we aren't doing anything.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
he just said he's gonna expand the child tax credit.
that's cool. i'm sure the duggars are jumping in joy right now lmfao
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
sorry but the only people who don't know what they're kneeling over are the ones who haven't been paying attention in the first place.
it literally takes a google search, or listening to what colin kaepernick had to say when he started kneeling.
stop playing stupid.
What ever happened to him? Did he lose interest?
again, if you'd pay attention, then you'd already know the answer to that.
and the answer is no. he's very much active. donating time and money all over the country.
I do give Kaep credit, he has donated plenty of his own money to various charities ($1million last I checked). He is putting his money where his mouth is-- more than can be said for many of these other blowhards.
sorry but the only people who don't know what they're kneeling over are the ones who haven't been paying attention in the first place.
it literally takes a google search, or listening to what colin kaepernick had to say when he started kneeling.
stop playing stupid.
What ever happened to him? Did he lose interest?
again, if you'd pay attention, then you'd already know the answer to that.
and the answer is no. he's very much active. donating time and money all over the country.
I do give Kaep credit, he has donated plenty of his own money to various charities ($1million last I checked). He is putting his money where his mouth is-- more than can be said for many of these other blowhards.
and you know this how about the others?
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
sorry but the only people who don't know what they're kneeling over are the ones who haven't been paying attention in the first place.
it literally takes a google search, or listening to what colin kaepernick had to say when he started kneeling.
stop playing stupid.
What ever happened to him? Did he lose interest?
again, if you'd pay attention, then you'd already know the answer to that.
and the answer is no. he's very much active. donating time and money all over the country.
I do give Kaep credit, he has donated plenty of his own money to various charities ($1million last I checked). He is putting his money where his mouth is-- more than can be said for many of these other blowhards.
and you know this how about the others?
This past weekend, more than 300 players either kneeled for the Anthem, or were part of a team that did not come out for it at all.
I'm sure you can point out that a handful have actually done something meaningful. Most of the rest... nothing.
sorry but the only people who don't know what they're kneeling over are the ones who haven't been paying attention in the first place.
it literally takes a google search, or listening to what colin kaepernick had to say when he started kneeling.
stop playing stupid.
What ever happened to him? Did he lose interest?
again, if you'd pay attention, then you'd already know the answer to that.
and the answer is no. he's very much active. donating time and money all over the country.
I do give Kaep credit, he has donated plenty of his own money to various charities ($1million last I checked). He is putting his money where his mouth is-- more than can be said for many of these other blowhards.
When did he last donate? Last I rad wa just after this started a year ago?
not only do these players donate money to efforts they believe in, but most of the nfl players ALREADY donate their time to programs that help kids in such all the time
I commend that. But this does what for police brutality issue they are protesting?
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there are other protest and marches going on, but guys like you don't want to hear it.
Once again, a protest or march does not fix anything, NFL players have that platform we keep hearing about - they are the ones that should be MAKING CHANGES. What have THEY done to change a single thing with the above I stated. NOT ONE SINGLE THING HAS BEEN DONE by them.
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99% of people on this board have no idea what the million man march is all about
you get that right? they are protesting to get some things changed. but that takes policy changes. police reform, efforts to help inner city schools, etc.
again, you would know these things if you paid attention.
but this is the problem. we tell you whats going on, but you won't even acknowledge it. it's always "well what else are they doing", "what about this or that", how come this or that.
it's so frustrating with guys like you. the answer is there. you can google every answer. but you willingly choose to be ignorant on the topic that way you and others can act like the players and other people aren't doing enough.
that's disappointing.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
NEW YORK — Colin Kaepernick, the exiled NFL quarterback still without a team, continued one of his stated missions on Thursday that started with his famed protest.
On Thursday, Kaepernick’s foundation donated another $100,000 of his pledged $1 million to give to communities of color and organizations helping the oppressed. Kaepernick has now given $900,000 of the goal. His latest offering went to DREAM, Coalition For The Homeless, War on Children, and United We Dream.
Please give what you can. Thanks
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
