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Trump Falsely Claims Obama Didn’t Contact Families of Fallen Troops

By MARK LANDLEROCT. 16, 2017

WASHINGTON — President Trump falsely asserted on Monday that his predecessor, Barack Obama, and other presidents did not contact the families of American troops killed in duty, drawing a swift, angry rebuke from several of Mr. Obama’s former aides.

Mr. Trump was responding to a question about why he had not spoken publicly about the killing of four Green Berets in an ambush in Niger two weeks ago when he made the assertion. Rather than answering the question, Mr. Trump said he had written personal letters to their families and planned to call them in the coming week. Then he pivoted to his predecessors.

“If you look at President Obama and other presidents, most of them didn’t make calls,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference in the Rose Garden with the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell. “A lot of them didn’t make calls. I like to call when it’s appropriate.”

Mr. Trump’s assertion belied a long record of meetings Mr. Obama held with the families of killed service people, as well as calls and letters, dating to the earliest days of his presidency. Before he decided to deploy 30,000 troops to Afghanistan, Mr. Obama traveled to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to greet the coffins of troops.

While Mr. Obama’s former staff members have grown used to Mr. Trump’s gibes about the “failure” of the Affordable Care Act or the “disastrous” Iran nuclear deal, they lashed out at his remarks on Monday with unusual bitterness.

“This is an outrageous and disrespectful lie even by Trump standards,” Benjamin J. Rhodes, a former deputy national security adviser to Mr. Obama, posted on Twitter. “Also,” Mr. Rhodes added, “Obama never attacked a Gold Star family.”

That reference was to the public feud Mr. Trump began with the parents of a Muslim American soldier, Humayun Khan, who was killed in Iraq in 2004. The soldier’s parents, Khizr and Ghazala Khan, appeared at the Democratic National Convention in 2016, where Mr. Khan criticized Mr. Trump.

Alyssa Mastromonaco, a former senior aide to Mr. Obama, used even stronger language on Twitter, calling Mr. Trump’s statement a lie — along with an expletive — and describing him as a “deranged animal.”

A spokesman for Mr. Obama declined to comment.

Several former Obama administration officials recalled the former president’s walks through Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, where the dead from Iraq and Afghanistan are buried, his visits to the wounded at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, and the time he spent with families of the fallen at the White House and around the country.

In August 2011, after a Chinook military helicopter was shot down over Afghanistan, killing 38 people, including 25 Special Forces troops, Mr. Obama consoled the families of all those killed, according to Jeremy B. Bash, a former chief of staff to Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta, who attended the ceremony.

David Axelrod, a senior adviser to Mr. Obama, said, “I don’t recall anything moving him more. He saw it as his duty to console them as best he could and thank them on behalf of the nation.”

But several officials said it was not always realistic to expect presidents to call the families of every fallen soldier. During the peak years of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Mr. Obama and former President George W. Bush faced hundreds of fatalities each year.

In 2009, the first year of Mr. Obama’s presidency, there were 317 American military fatalities in Afghanistan and 149 in Iraq. So far this year, there have been 11 fatalities in Afghanistan and 14 in Iraq. Seventeen sailors were killed in accidents involving two Navy warships, the John S. McCain and the Fitzgerald.

In the Niger episode, three American soldiers were killed while on patrol on the border between Niger and Mali this month. The body of a fourth American soldier was recovered later.

While he did not explain why he had not called their families, Mr. Trump said he had written letters to the family members over the weekend, which he said would be mailed later in the day or on Tuesday. He said he also planned to call them.

“I felt very, very badly about that,” he said. “The toughest calls I have to make are the calls where this happens. Soldiers are killed. It’s a very difficult thing,” he said. “Now, it gets to a point where, you know, you make four or five of them in one day. It’s a very, very tough day. For me, that’s by far the toughest.”

A senior official said Mr. Trump had planned to speak sooner to the families, but the White House had to wait until the Pentagon’s paperwork was completed.

Pentagon officials said the military’s Africa Command was putting together a detailed timeline of the attack and of the response by French helicopters that first provided air cover for the badly outnumbered American and Nigerian forces, and eventually medical evacuation.

On Monday, Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island, the ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, joined a growing chorus calling for a review of the circumstances leading to the ambush.

After he answered the question about his response to the attack, Mr. Trump was pressed later in the news conference about his claim that Mr. Obama had never called bereaved families. This time, he seemed to soften his tone.

“I don’t know if he did,” the president said. “I was told he didn’t often, and a lot of presidents don’t. They write letters.”

“President Obama, I think, probably did sometimes and maybe sometimes he didn’t,” Mr. Trump continued. “That’s what I was told. All I can do is ask my generals.”
Eric Schmitt contributed reporting.
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I listened to that interview. Basically, Trump tried to say that Obama didn't call families of the fallen but was pushed back by Peter Alexander of I think NBC news. After the push back he changed his tune.

Basically, he tried to lie and didn't succeed.. Got caught again.


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he tried to lie and didn't succeed.

Yes he did... he lied as usual.


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Melania probably hid Michelle's condolence speech from him.


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Trump Told Army Widow Her Husband Knew 'What He Signed Up For,' Congresswoman Says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-told-army-widow-her-032259427.html

Trump is taking a massive L for this situation that should've never been a problem in the first place.


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Trump Told Army Widow Her Husband Knew 'What He Signed Up For,' Congresswoman Says

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-told-army-widow-her-032259427.html

Trump is taking a massive L for this situation that should've never been a problem in the first place.


Maybe he doesn't like dead heroes, just ones that live and evade capture.

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He has the emotional intellect of an autistic snail. And that’s being kind. The guy has no soul.


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Mr T and his minions will be PO'ed on how it was leaked to the press and not what was said. Mark it down. We won't have to wait long for his next f up. Geez what a deplorable joke we have as POTUS


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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
He has the emotional intellect of an autistic snail. And that’s being kind. The guy has no soul.


I have two autistic boys. I'm gonna remember this next time you're bewailing something like Chief Wahoo...


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I meant no disrespect to you or yours.
Believe me or not.

I work in the world of healthcare. Hospice actually. We make ‘dark’ jokes all the time as a means of dealing with the awful things we see and experience. A true, ‘if you can’t laugh, you’ll cry’ career. I’m sorry that my ‘office’ humor offended you.

I stand by the rest of my statement. trump is devoid of any emotional intellect.


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I work in the world of healthcare. Hospice actually. We make ‘dark’ jokes all the time as a means of dealing with the awful things we see and experience.


Yeah... they really don't wanna know what a "Smurf" is....
They wouldn't be able to handle it-
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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
I meant no disrespect to you or yours.
Believe me or not.

I work in the world of healthcare. Hospice actually. We make ‘dark’ jokes all the time as a means of dealing with the awful things we see and experience. A true, ‘if you can’t laugh, you’ll cry’ career. I’m sorry that my ‘office’ humor offended you.

I stand by the rest of my statement. trump is devoid of any emotional intellect.


I don't give a damn where you work.

YOU CHOSE IT

Far as I'm concerned you're just another shining example of liberal hypocrisy on what is 'tolerant' or 'sensitive'.


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Come on Ted .. they talk that way at work so that makes it OK ... rolleyes ...

To bad your not in construction Ted ... then u could say whatever u want and have a built in excuse ... PATHETIC!!!!!




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I work in the world of healthcare. Hospice actually. We make ‘dark’ jokes all the time as a means of dealing with the awful things we see and experience.


Yeah... they really don't wanna know what a "Smurf" is....
They wouldn't be able to handle it-
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OK ... u got me curious ... whats a smurf? .. *L* ...




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j/c

Let's change the conversation to something else since you can't defend Trump on this one. lmao

I mean what else can you do?


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
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I work in the world of healthcare. Hospice actually. We make ‘dark’ jokes all the time as a means of dealing with the awful things we see and experience.


Yeah... they really don't wanna know what a "Smurf" is....
They wouldn't be able to handle it-
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OK ... u got me curious ... whats a smurf? .. *L* ...


Are you sure you want to know? I mean it could be seen as a slam to those that have experienced it.


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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
I meant no disrespect to you or yours.
Believe me or not.

I work in the world of healthcare. Hospice actually. We make ‘dark’ jokes all the time as a means of dealing with the awful things we see and experience. A true, ‘if you can’t laugh, you’ll cry’ career. I’m sorry that my ‘office’ humor offended you.

I stand by the rest of my statement. trump is devoid of any emotional intellect.


I don't give a damn where you work.

YOU CHOSE IT

Far as I'm concerned you're just another shining example of liberal hypocrisy on what is 'tolerant' or 'sensitive'.


Whatever.


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Let's change the conversation to something else since you can't defend Trump on this one. lmao

I mean what else can you do?


Personally ... i’ll Wait and see what someone who heard the convo from the family says ... i’m Certainly not going to rely on the word of someone who clearly hates and despises and has prolly told other lies about Trump ...

Trump very well could have f’d up ... im not going there based on what someone that hates him says without some type of verication from someone else ...

U go right ahead and believe what the hater said ... u been doing it from day 1 with trump and have more egg on your face then the driver of an overturned egg truck ... thumbsup

My guess is .... he said something insensitive but it wasn’t phrased anywhere near as bad as the hater made it out to be ...

They both say they have proof the other one is lying ...

Based on history trump prolly has none ... lets see what the hater comes up with ...

Til then .....




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Ya i do ... love learning ....

So ... whats a smurf? ...




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Come on Ted .. they talk that way at work so that makes it OK ... rolleyes ...

To bad your not in construction Ted ... then u could say whatever u want and have a built in excuse ... PATHETIC!!!!!



What’s pathetic is you elected a dude that’s said all kinds of crap. “But it’s locker room talk” you said in his defense. So zip it. Your hypocrisy is showing.

I’ll stand by my apology.
If you really think I’m a bad guy because I made an off handed remark then that’s on you. I spend my life taking care of people of all backgrounds. I spend my life in service to my community.
FYI My older brother died at 44 years old after a life of mental and physical retardation. I don’t get my undies in a bunch when someone calls another person a ‘retard’ or anything of the sort.
If I’m a bad guy because of one tasteless comment then so be it. You’re wrong about me but whatever. I know who I am. The patients I serve know who I am. Some internet warrior isn’t going to change my service to them or their views of me. Their opinions matter. Your’s...not so much.

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Come on Ted .. they talk that way at work so that makes it OK ... rolleyes ...

To bad your not in construction Ted ... then u could say whatever u want and have a built in excuse ... PATHETIC!!!!!



And Ted...too bad your not in politics with the conservatives where it's ok to say what ever you want in a locker room about how you've molested and grabbed women by their privates and have a built in excuse...DEPLORABLE!!!!


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Ya i do ... love learning ....

So ... whats a smurf? ...


A smurf is a ‘blue baby’. A still born baby that died from lack of oxygen. They are blue because of this.

Now is every nurse or doctor that uses this term a monster? No. It’s part of dealing with the massive heaviness we deal with daily in our jobs. Having a sense of humor in the face of the humorless.


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I dont think your a bad guy .. not at all ...

I think you made a remark that offended Ted ... he had every right to be offended .. it was an insensitive remark to him ... he made u aware of his situation ... and u made what IMO was a BS apology ....

That doesn’t make u a bad guy ... not at all ... neither do our differences of opinions or political views ....

I’m not so sure we should be living in the same country ... that dont make either of us bad people .. just different ....




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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Ya i do ... love learning ....

So ... whats a smurf? ...


A smurf is a ‘blue baby’. A still born baby that died from lack of oxygen. They are blue because of this.

Now is every nurse or doctor that uses this term a monster? No. It’s part of dealing with the massive heaviness we deal with daily in our jobs. Having a sense of humor in the face of the humorless.


I'm actually more offended that you say this about someone's lost child...

I'm literally blown away by this...


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The hater? You do realize that there have been several sources from both the Bush White House and the Obama White House that have proven what Trump said was a lie, right?


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Ya i do ... love learning ....

So ... whats a smurf? ...


I believe the term is used when someone's skin is turning blue if I'm not mistaken.


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Ya i do ... love learning ....

So ... whats a smurf? ...


A smurf is a ‘blue baby’. A still born baby that died from lack of oxygen. They are blue because of this.

Now is every nurse or doctor that uses this term a monster? No. It’s part of dealing with the massive heaviness we deal with daily in our jobs. Having a sense of humor in the face of the humorless.


Thanks ...

Didn’t know we were going there ... eeeeesh ... thats sad ...




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Come on Ted .. they talk that way at work so that makes it OK ... rolleyes ...

To bad your not in construction Ted ... then u could say whatever u want and have a built in excuse ... PATHETIC!!!!!



I am in construction, as far as residential house painting goes that is and I don't talk like this.


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Originally Posted By: MrTed
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Ya i do ... love learning ....

So ... whats a smurf? ...


A smurf is a ‘blue baby’. A still born baby that died from lack of oxygen. They are blue because of this.

Now is every nurse or doctor that uses this term a monster? No. It’s part of dealing with the massive heaviness we deal with daily in our jobs. Having a sense of humor in the face of the humorless.


I'm actually more offended that you say this about someone's lost child...

I'm literally blown away by this...


I have never said this. I don’t work with children. Never have in my 20 years of nursing. But I do know the term. It’s widly known in the industry. Does me knowing the term make me a bad guy?


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The hater? You do realize that there have been several sources from both the Bush White House and the Obama White House that have proven what Trump said was a lie, right?


This threads about what he said to the widow ... not what oBUMa did ...

At least thats what i’m talking about ..

What the hating democrat rep says means nothing to me w/o proof ...




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Mother of dead soldier confirms Trump 'disrespected' widow

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mother-dead-soldier-confirms-trump-154059378.html

Trump has disrespected many military personnel and their families even before he won and the trump supporters still voted for him.

Let’s me know the whole rhetoric about nfl players disrespecting the military is crap. Trump is a disgrace


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Once again it's obvious what's being done here.

He can't defend the actual topic at hand. Obviously he was lurking and reading the thread. He finally found something off topic to pounce on and here we are. Talking about something that has zero to do with the thread topic. Total deflection.


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Come on Ted .. they talk that way at work so that makes it OK ... rolleyes ...

To bad your not in construction Ted ... then u could say whatever u want and have a built in excuse ... PATHETIC!!!!!



And Ted...too bad your not in politics with the conservatives where it's ok to say what ever you want in a locker room about how you've molested and grabbed women by their privates and have a built in excuse...DEPLORABLE!!!!

Because it's better to be a liberal where you do it, you just don't get caught talking about it?

Watching people fight over which side has the moral high ground on this, when both sides are 20 feet below sea level is kind of amusing.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Once again it's obvious what's being done here.

He can't defend the actual topic at hand. Obviously he was lurking and reading the thread. He finally found something off topic to pounce on and here we are. Talking about something that has zero to do with the thread topic. Total deflection.


You're a liar.

I came into this to make some snarky comment on how he must have expensively good tasting shoes because he can't stop putting his foot in his mouth.


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I work in the world of healthcare. Hospice actually. We make ‘dark’ jokes all the time as a means of dealing with the awful things we see and experience.


Yeah... they really don't wanna know what a "Smurf" is....
They wouldn't be able to handle it-
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I guess you’re now a horrible person too since you knew the term.
I know the word ‘rapist’. I guess by that logic I need to go turn myself in to the police for being a rapist? I’m not sure how this works.


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the word of someone who clearly hates and despises and has prolly told other lies about Trump ...



Yep the prejudicial conservative... "Hater!" "Liar!" "Fake News!" Typical.


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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
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Ya i do ... love learning ....

So ... whats a smurf? ...


A smurf is a ‘blue baby’. A still born baby that died from lack of oxygen. They are blue because of this.

Now is every nurse or doctor that uses this term a monster? No. It’s part of dealing with the massive heaviness we deal with daily in our jobs. Having a sense of humor in the face of the humorless.


I'm actually more offended that you say this about someone's lost child...

I'm literally blown away by this...


I have never said this. I don’t work with children. Never have in my 20 years of nursing. But I do know the term. It’s widly known in the industry. Does me knowing the term make me a bad guy?


No.


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I guess you’re now a horrible person too since you knew the term.
I know the word ‘rapist’. I guess by that logic I need to go turn myself in to the police for being a rapist? I’m not sure how this works.

Dude, you compared Trump, who you obviously hate and think has no emotional intellect to an "autistic snail"... It's not because you "know a bad word", that has nothing to do with this.

You gave a very negative connotation to anybody with autism through your ill-placed analogy and I can see where somebody with loved ones who have autism, wouldn't look fondly on that..

Then you apologized.. but didn't.. excusing your behavior and blaming it on what is permitted at your job.

You should probably just make a real apology to Ted and then let it go because turning this into a left vs right thing isn't working.. you screwed up, it happens.


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the word of someone who clearly hates and despises and has prolly told other lies about Trump ...



Yep the prejudicial conservative... "Hater!" "Liar!" "Fake News!" Typical.


Ya .... waiting for the facts ... what a moron i am ...

HANDS UP DON’T SHOOT ...

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Watching people fight over which side has the moral high ground on this, when both sides are 20 feet below sea level is kind of amusing.



Yet you're not watching, and you are a participant here and are directing your argument and posts to the other side. superconfused


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