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Haslam's first mistake was putting Brown in charge of all roster decisions when that's not his area of expertise. He's a lawyer and salary-cap expert who came from a Jaguars team that didn't have a winning season in his final five years there. He's more team president material than final-say GM.

If Brown were to have control of the roster, he needed an accomplished evaluator by his side. Instead, Haslam brought in DePodesta from the Mets. If DePodesta wanted to break into football, so be it. But Haslam put a baseball guy in charge of his football team.

DePodesta was still coming up the steep learning curve when the Browns made the egregious error of passing on Wentz last year. To make matters worse, he told ESPN Cleveland that the Browns didn't think Wentz would be a top-20 quarterback, effectively announcing that their ability to evaluate the position is suspect.

The Browns did hire their "football guy" in Berry, but he was a rising 28-year-old talent and former Colts pro scouting coordinator who was nowhere near ready to be a team's leading football authority.

Haslam should've learned from making Farmer the GM way too soon that it's too big a job for a rookie, unless he's paired with a star exec such as an Ozzie Newsome.

The other major flaw on the executive team was that Haslam put himself in charge of overseeing it, a job he's not qualified for.

Had he hired a good overseer, preferably one with Super Bowl experience, he may have been able to head off the rift.

You can place the blame on her all you want, but it means nothing. The real problem isn't Mary Kay or JLC. It's Haslam.

But it's obvious they are out of their league.

Why is she getting credit for the obvious? She's not revealing some big revelation.

But it's obvious they are out of their league.

Why is she getting credit for the obvious? She's not revealing some big revelation.

Nice.

There are no concrete reports of Manning meeting with anything Cleveland Browns. Unfortunately, these are just rumors. More rumors that the media makes up that continue to hinder and haunt the Cleveland Browns.

Exactly?

I don't see any concrete evidence that the media is making up stories to hurt and hinder the Browns. I think it more likely that the poster said that because he always protects the FO.

I am saying that he didn't have much in Philly and he still played pretty good.

As for proven track record, what about the guy the redskins fired for his alcohol abuse issues? Bring him in as a midlevel executive. Gets him back in football which is something he needs but we don't get dependent on someone with a drinking problem. Perhaps bring him in as a consultant.

No thanks, we don't need trouble as much as we need the help lol. That sounds like trouble.

But it's obvious they are out of their league.

Why is she getting credit for the obvious? She's not revealing some big revelation.

I'm seriously wondering how big the chasm is between the two sides.

j/c:

What we don't know-- whether this plan will come tor fruition.

What we do know-- blowing things up after 1 or 2 years and bringing in a new staff/philosophy has not worked.

I heard Doug Lesmerises (Plain Dealer) in the radio say something like, people aren't really upset at the FO for their selections. Overall, people are fine with the people selected. It's the players that weren't selected is where the issues lie..namely with Wentz and Watson. I think that is a true stance.

I stay keep everyone and keeping moving ahead with the plan.

So what other reporter out there reported what you claim to be so obvious? You may be right, that it's obvious. But she's the only local reporter that I saw write it and publish it.