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Oh Hue, you poor sap. It will be you who is sacrificed if we continue to lose a ton of games. I'm still not ready to talk about firing Hue...HOWEVER...his declining of that 15 yard facemask penalty on 3rd down with the Titans at the Browns 31 ish was a fire-able offense in and of itself. Then...he tries to explain it away like a 15 year old getting caught with cigarettes. He conceded 3 points right there and was lucky to not have given up 7. No other coach in the USA would decline that penalty. What the hell was he thinking? Oh yeah...he thought they would kick it. My goodness. 4th & 1 at the 31 or 3rd & 16 from the 47.  The FO did NOT make that decision...the lack of roster talent/depth did NOT make that decision. Hue is taking an incredibly long rope and cutting off pieces of it with his unbelievably poor game management.
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Fireable in and of itself .... PLEASE ....
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This next draft needs to be masterful!! Yeah they all do bro. That's the problem. They never are.
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Fireable in and of itself .... PLEASE .... On the heals of the poor game day decisions he's made here...yes...I think it is. That was 3 free points in a game we lost in OT...and the second time this year he's squirted away 3 points in a three point loss. No other HC in the league turns down a 15 yard penalty that moves the opponent back to within a whisper of midfield. None. I don't want Hue fired my any means (yet), but if he keeps making these awful decisions, that choice will be the first example of why his game day decisions contributed to his demise. If he can't get that decision right, what other poor decisions is he making that we can't so easily see? Let me be clear...I don't WANT anyone fired. I don't talk about the owner because only he can fire himself...that's even more wasted effort. But Hue can't keep giving away points while yanking a QB for giving away the ball.
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Hue Jackson's only head coaching experience in the NFL was in Oakland were he went 8-8 and was fired. He needs to be let go! Doug Pedersen had 0 head coaching experience, he was coaching Calvary Baptist Academy as recently as 2008.. in his second season, the Eagles are 5-1.. with the QB we handed them. Dan Quinn had 0 head coaching experience, was a DC for 2 years.. went to the super bowl in his first season with a very good QB. Sean McVay had 0 head coaching experience, he was an OC for 3 years... team is 5-2 in his first season with a promising young QB. Sean McDermott had 0 head coaching experience, team is 4-2 in his first season Tyrod freaking Taylor as the QB... Bill O'brien had 0 head coaching experience, team is 3-3 and just waxed us.. roster is as young as ours, rookie QB (that we could have had)... We can keep making excuses all day long... but teams win in this league without the perfect line-up, without the perfect QB, with youth, with new coaches... it happens all the time, everywhere except here.
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Hue Jackson's only head coaching experience in the NFL was in Oakland were he went 8-8 and was fired. He needs to be let go! Doug Pedersen had 0 head coaching experience, he was coaching Calvary Baptist Academy as recently as 2008.. in his second season, the Eagles are 5-1.. with the QB we handed them. Dan Quinn had 0 head coaching experience, was a DC for 2 years.. went to the super bowl in his first season with a very good QB. Sean McVay had 0 head coaching experience, he was an OC for 3 years... team is 5-2 in his first season with a promising young QB. Sean McDermott had 0 head coaching experience, team is 4-2 in his first season Tyrod freaking Taylor as the QB... Bill O'brien had 0 head coaching experience, team is 3-3 and just waxed us.. roster is as young as ours, rookie QB (that we could have had)... We can keep making excuses all day long... but teams win in this league without the perfect line-up, without the perfect QB, with youth, with new coaches... it happens all the time, everywhere except here. Are u saying u want hue fired? ...
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Your point still stands, but I would like to point out that Bill O'Brien was the head coach at Penn State before the Texans hired him.
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I would say if you took a poll most would no longer give a damn if Hue stays or goes. 1 win in 2 years, he deserves to be fired. Only reason folks might be willing to give him more time is because we tore it down to nothing for the 10th time in 15 years.
Someone is gonna take the fall may be Hue, may be FO or hell may be both.
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I don't think that's true .... I don't remember a total tear down like this - ever. Sure we hit the 'reset' button many times, but that wasn't what this team has just been through.
I think many including myself want to keep Hue because... well wouldn't it be amazing if we gave someone a chance to be successful and gave them time instead of doing the same thing over and over and thinking there will be a different result. . . . just out of curiosity, if we get rid of Hue after 2 years of giving him total crap at the QB and through much of the roster, who is going to come here and be the next HC of the Browns? I saw on he QB thread people saying they would never sign here as a Free Agent QB ... I think that's more true of a HC than a QB.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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Hue wanted Cody Kessler, if u believe him.
The clouds parted and the ground shook for RG3.
Kizer is everything he wanted in a QB.
Hue wanted Hawkins over Gabriel.
FO has screwed the pooch more than once but lets not act like Hue doesn't have his fingerprints all over this mess.
Again, I don't really care if he stays or goes cause I like most of his coaching staff but he will not survive his record.
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So its ridiculous to believe Hue will be fired when he most likely goes 0-16 this year?
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I think it is ridiculous to blame Hue for the problems we have.
I think it is ridiculous to ignore what the FO has done.
I think it is ridiculous to think that firing the coach is going to be a positive move.
I think it is ridiculous that we keep blowing things up over and over and over again.
I think it is ridiculous for fans to get dumb ass high and unrealistic expectations before the season and then call for a guy to get fired when reality sets in.
I hope that clarifies what I think of you guys.
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I don't think Hue deserves to be fired... yet. If we're still 0'fer at this point next season... with no sign of improvement from the guys we've drafted this year and last... then yeah, you start talking about it.
I also don't want to blow up the FO, because more often than not that will lead to a coaching change (new guy wants "his" coach).
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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A lot of people aren't as level-headed as you are.
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I simply don't think you can land a better coach than Hue if you fire him. Haslem says he doesn't expect things from this year either so why should we. This is a developmental year for a LOT of VERY young players.
Now when I see a terrible Kizer next year starting and we didn't even try to find a better QB well then I might just lose it then. This year I will just bunker down and tough it out till the draft. After next year if I don't see improvement of some KIND then I am probably done with football forever just like I am with baseball and basketball.
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I used to question guys when they claimed how great Hue was. I was told I had an agenda and hated him. LOL
I said I would be the one who ended up defending him. And look and behold....
The dude isn't perfect, but the blame game is wrong. This team isn't experienced and talented enough to win yet. Firing anyone right now would be moronic!
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So its ridiculous to believe Hue will be fired when he most likely goes 0-16 this year?
I hope Jimmy and Dee are watching Wentz tonight wondering why Hue and Sashi passed on this kid. This looks like the Kellen Winslow..Big Ben debacle all over again. No clue Hue!!
Exciting football will be back in Cleveland this fall!
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The dude isn't perfect, but the blame game is wrong. This team isn't experienced and talented enough to win yet. Firing anyone right now would be moronic!
^^^this in spades.
I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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Hue Jackson's only head coaching experience in the NFL was in Oakland were he went 8-8 and was fired. He needs to be let go! Doug Pedersen had 0 head coaching experience, he was coaching Calvary Baptist Academy as recently as 2008.. in his second season, the Eagles are 5-1.. with the QB we handed them. Dan Quinn had 0 head coaching experience, was a DC for 2 years.. went to the super bowl in his first season with a very good QB. Sean McVay had 0 head coaching experience, he was an OC for 3 years... team is 5-2 in his first season with a promising young QB. Sean McDermott had 0 head coaching experience, team is 4-2 in his first season Tyrod freaking Taylor as the QB... Bill O'brien had 0 head coaching experience, team is 3-3 and just waxed us.. roster is as young as ours, rookie QB (that we could have had)... We can keep making excuses all day long... but teams win in this league without the perfect line-up, without the perfect QB, with youth, with new coaches... it happens all the time, everywhere except here BECAUSE THE BROWNS HAVE AN INCOMPETENT OWNER WHO CONTINUES TO HIRE THE WRONG PEOPLE TO RUN THE FRANCHISE. Fixed it for ya.
After 55 years, I'm walking away from this dumpster fire. Good luck to everyone who continues to hang on. You'll need it.
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Hey, the fans DESERVE a Winner Now! They work so hard! And have been the most patient. The backlash I got from admitting I'm done watching the games each Sunday is minimal at best. Had I openly admitted that, say, four years ago or so - I would have been crucified. The patience for us fans is wearing out each bad decision, each loss and by God... there's been many of those these years.
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I simply don't think you can land a better coach than Hue if you fire him. Haslem says he doesn't expect things from this year either so why should we. This is a developmental year for a LOT of VERY young players.
Now when I see a terrible Kizer next year starting and we didn't even try to find a better QB well then I might just lose it then. This year I will just bunker down and tough it out till the draft. After next year if I don't see improvement of some KIND then I am probably done with football forever just like I am with baseball and basketball. I think you're mostly right. While we may be able to find an upgrade to Hue, it's far more likely that the person we'll have will be worse. Focus on upgrading talent. While I think Hue has too much on his plate in righting this ship, I'll ignore him not getting an OC if we bring someone in that will help with talent evaluation (specifically, draft). Bring in a college QB guru to pair with our QB development guru.
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Hue Jackson's only head coaching experience in the NFL was in Oakland were he went 8-8 and was fired. He needs to be let go! Doug Pedersen had 0 head coaching experience, he was coaching Calvary Baptist Academy as recently as 2008.. in his second season, the Eagles are 5-1.. with the QB we handed them. Dan Quinn had 0 head coaching experience, was a DC for 2 years.. went to the super bowl in his first season with a very good QB. Sean McVay had 0 head coaching experience, he was an OC for 3 years... team is 5-2 in his first season with a promising young QB. Sean McDermott had 0 head coaching experience, team is 4-2 in his first season Tyrod freaking Taylor as the QB... Bill O'brien had 0 head coaching experience, team is 3-3 and just waxed us.. roster is as young as ours, rookie QB (that we could have had)... We can keep making excuses all day long... but teams win in this league without the perfect line-up, without the perfect QB, with youth, with new coaches... it happens all the time, everywhere except here. Are u saying u want hue fired? ... No, not at all. I'm saying I'm tired of excuses.. We can't expect to win because we have a young QB... We can't expect to win because we have a young roster... We can't expect to win because we have a new coach... We can't draft a QB in the top 5 because we don't have all the pieces around him yet... We shouldn't draft a WR because we don't have a QB to get him the ball... It takes 3 years to figure out if a guy is any good or not... I apologize for my frustration coming to a head.. but I'm tired of watching other teams do things to make their teams better and find success.... but I consistently read why we need to lower our expectations because those same things won't work here. Edit: And when I say "expect to win".. I'm not talking super bowls, I'm not even really talking playoffs.. I'm talking some games.. God forbid we could actually EXPECT to challenge for a .500 record.
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Thanks for the response ....
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