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how bout harbaugh guys? lol.
just seen brennen live and they said harbaugh might wanna leave for the nfl. id give him total control over this mess...
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how bout harbaugh guys? lol.
just seen brennen live and they said harbaugh might wanna leave for the nfl. id give him total control over this mess... We almost had him once. There are two problems with Harbaugh. 1) He probably isn't leaving Michigan and 2) If he is, the Colts job will probably be open which means Andrew Luck.
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People keep saying kizer played well except for those two picks. Got news for ya, if you throw 2 picks before halftime and no td's then you didn't play well
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People keep saying kizer played well except for those two picks. Got news for ya, if you throw 2 picks before halftime and no td's then you didn't play well I think they mean he played well for Kizer.
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how bout harbaugh guys? lol.
just seen brennen live and they said harbaugh might wanna leave for the nfl. id give him total control over this mess... We almost had him once. There are two problems with Harbaugh. 1) He probably isn't leaving Michigan and 2) If he is, the Colts job will probably be open which means Andrew Luck. 3) I don't think he would play in the same division as his brother.
I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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took me a second to realize what I was looking at. I know QB's need to know how to throw the ball from different grips. but could this be partly why his accuracy issues stem from? idk I'm trying to find something for me to get behind him...it's damn hard lol.
I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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I realize he is not throwing the ball from that grip every time. just wondering if those kinds of grips might be slipping him up.
besides the not seeing the field thing.
I bet you're wondering the samething I did, why O' why didn't I take the...blue pill
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Back to Flattop under center. Maybe 3 is the lucky number and we see a flash or two. Good players flash now and then.
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i'd never seen (nor heard about) that fake FG pass from Pagel in 1989 ... what a play
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how bout harbaugh guys? lol.
just seen brennen live and they said harbaugh might wanna leave for the nfl. id give him total control over this mess... We almost had him once. There are two problems with Harbaugh. 1) He probably isn't leaving Michigan and 2) If he is, the Colts job will probably be open which means Andrew Luck. If he doesn't have Michigan in the playoff or beat OSU in the next year or two, he'll be a considered a bum there. All he has to do here is win a game and he'll be a hero.
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Taking one picture and making assumptions without knowing the circumstances of that one play..for example, was it a shotgun snap?..was Kizer under pressure?
All QBs have situations where the ball is not in the ideal or preferred position at the moment they have to deliver a pass. We do not know how often Kizer passes the ball in the pictured position or if it is an issue for him.
No way to know if ball position is an issue based on one picture.
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DeShone denial. Trying to find something he can point to good. Still "trying to see what we have: to determine QB need or not in the draft. I have a pretty solid idea. What do ya need, Hue? More interceptions? More sacks? More turnovers? What will turn this corner and convince you it is bad enough to draft a top one or sign a veteran? This mystery thing is old. What convinces you? You don't dare admit this was a bonehead choice? Stand by your decision; just a lame idea.
Shop after this game. When is it bad enough? What will be good enough? I would be hard-pressed to see the wisdom in this. Better try to score from 25 yards out, because any closer and we give it away and the play calling gets stupider.
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... every situation is different ...
Hue is doing everything he can to win a football game ... i think it leads to some bad coaching decisions ... BUT I get it ...
.. my guess is he felt personally responsible for it ..
This to me hits the nail 100% on the head. I don't blame the man at all... heck in his shoes and desperate for a win who knows what we would all do? In his efforts to win I also think he is also trying to develop Kizer - and if we see some more of the good stuff from Kizer this week maybe we're further along that path than we realize. Dang - Kizer is 21 - that's such an incredibly young age. This week's game without Joe Thomas in there is going to be tough. I wonder if the TE we activated is going to line up on the left side of the line virtually every play and help the LT all game?
The more things change the more they stay the same.
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I believe everyone who is Browns fans knows that Hue is gonna be the scapegoat
What? Scapegoat for what? Hypothetically speaking, if the Browns fire Hue and only Hue after the season and keep the FO... and then the Browns go on to win 10 games next year, will people say poor Hue was never given a chance to success or will people finally realize that Hue was part of the problem? Do you purposely try to make the dumbest posts on each and every thread or is it a natural gift? This coming from the guy who took the time to PM me asking me to "stop the personal attacks. " This is the crap people are talking about with you. Your post is zero about football and its only purpose is a personal attack. You are obviously mis-reading his objectivity and logic!
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Yeah, the Browns will win 10 games next year if they fire Hue and only then will the fans learn that Hue was the problem.
That's logical and objective.
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Are you saying that's what I claimed or that I want Hue fired? I know you weren't because I have not said either things. Not even hinted at them.
So what was your point?
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Virtually too late for this season. The trade deadline is Tuesday at 4pm...
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What are you talking about? That is what the OP said. You're trying to hard, man.
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What are you talking about? That is what the OP said. You're trying to hard, man. You know the board protocol well enough. If you want to say something about the OP - then respond to them, or add a j/c at the start of your post. Trying too hard? Yeah - you sure have been.
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What? You even quoted the guy.
Enough man.
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took me a second to realize what I was looking at. I know QB's need to know how to throw the ball from different grips. but could this be partly why his accuracy issues stem from? idk I'm trying to find something for me to get behind him...it's damn hard lol. That is a major difference between Shotgun and under Center as when you receive the snap under center the laces are in the hand perfectly. Shotgun, comfortable QBs rotate the ball in the hand subconsciously while they go about their reads. I would like to see Kizer more and more under center! jmho
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idk I'm trying to find something for me to get behind him...it's damn hard lol. Pretty much wrote him off already. I don't think Kizer will operate the offense and lead us to victories. Brock taught him how to throw INTs before leaving it seems. He's in a non developmental situation too with the benching/starting routine/carousel he's in. I'm 110% convinced staying in school was the best option for him.
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Bump .. Shame , as the Kid dose have some talent .. Come out early , go to Browns = Kiss of Death ! lol
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I believe everyone who is Browns fans knows that Hue is gonna be the scapegoat
What? Scapegoat for what? Hypothetically speaking, if the Browns fire Hue and only Hue after the season and keep the FO... and then the Browns go on to win 10 games next year, will people say poor Hue was never given a chance to success or will people finally realize that Hue was part of the problem? Do you purposely try to make the dumbest posts on each and every thread or is it a natural gift? This coming from the guy who took the time to PM me asking me to "stop the personal attacks. " This is the crap people are talking about with you. Your post is zero about football and its only purpose is a personal attack. It's best to ignore him and his posts. Majority of his posts are attacking other people who disagree with his opinions.
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You know the board protocol well enough. If you want to say something about the OP - then respond to them, or add a j/c at the start of your post.
Trying too hard? Yeah - you sure have been. Sorry for the not-Kizer-related question but I've seen the j/c a few times and had no idea what it means? Thought I should ask in case it's something I should be doing haha.
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j/c
Just clicking.
As in "I'm not replying to your post directly, just replying in general."
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Others have used NRTU (Not Replying To You)
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This works well for things you have to repeat often.
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That is just sad....give that man a hug. When he said, "Oh My God!" after Kizer's 2nd INT, he looked like a beaten man.
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He looked more frustrated than "beaten" to me. But, you can see all the losing is getting to him.
What was really tough was seeing Joe's face. Man, he was in tremendous pain when he was on the ground.
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I've watched that JT play over and over and I just don't see the trama to the tricep that was enough to tear it.
It looks like just a freak thing..maybe damaged earlier with the final injury occurring on that play.
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I've watched that JT play over and over and I just don't see the trama to the tricep that was enough to tear it.
It looks like just a freak thing..maybe damaged earlier with the final injury occurring on that play. Denver called the night before and he didn't want to be traded, so.....
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Yeah, nothing looked out of the ordinary. Kinda like Teddy Bridgewater's knee injury. Sometimes, it's really hard to know what caused it.
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The mistakes and etc seem to be wearing down on Hue. You can almost see his soul fly away in the second INT and when JT goes down. First Brown videos I've watched in weeks.
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I'm a little worried about how Deshone Kizer is going to perform against Minnesota this weekend.
Minnesota currently have one of the best defences in the NFL, and they are arguably outright the best.
They're currently #4 in yards per game against (283), #2 in 3rd down % against (27%), #5 fewest points allowed (17) and #4 in yards allowed per play (4.6).
Against the run, Minnesota is #3 in yards against (76.6), #3 in yards per attempt against (We're #2!) (3.2), #2 in rushing TDs against, #1 in big plays against (They have allowed only a single rush over 20 yards) and #2 in yards surrendered against the run.
Meanwhile, it's worth admission that Crowell and Duke have been really disappointing on the ground this season. After an impressive 2016 in spite of the horrific number of injuries to the offensive line and quarterback position, this year we're #25 in yards per attempt (3.9), #25 in attempts per game (23.6), #32 in big rushing plays (None over 20 yards) and #15 in touchdowns. So Deshone shouldn't be expecting much help from the ground game.
Back to Minnesota, this time against the pass. The Vikings are #12 in yards against (206.4), #9 in passing touchdowns against (9), #5 in interceptions (7), tied #4 in sacks, #8 in passer rating against (83), #8 in yards per attempt against (6.5), #4 in passes over 20 yards against but only #20 in completion percentage against (64.1).
There are certainly some teams who have better overall numbers, but Minnesota is consistently amongst the best teams in every category and doesn't fluctuate as much as some of the other top teams like Jacksonville and Denver.
It might make it worse for Kizer that he's playing in London while coming off another benching. At this stage, I'd be hard pressed to believe his confidence isn't shaken. He seems like a resilient young man, but there is only so much someone can take.
I worry for him. This could be a really tough one.
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He's going to get to benched by the time I even awake I bet haha.
My advice to you is prepare yourself for the worst. Vikings defense is going to take that game away from us because we might not even have red zone opportunities to throw the ball away this game. Our left side pass protection is now weak so both tackle spots will leak. I see a lot of 3 and out with our sputtering offense.
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He's going to get to benched by the time I even awake I bet haha. Thats a new twist to the over/under .... *LOL* ...
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Personally, I hope he doesn't get benched. Give him a full game so he has plenty to study moving forward. I don't see Cody Kessler doing much of anything, anyway.
But that's me. I die a little inside when Hue thinks Kessler is our best chance to win.
Joe is such a heartbreakingly big loss. It was hard enough before, but I shudder a thought at how we're going to go now.
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