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Originally Posted By: Swish
but it's funny.

we gotta give the DoD more billions, even though they got trillions missing.

we gotta fight north korea and possibly iran.

we gotta fight the opioid crisis that Trump just declared an emergency.

we gotta reel in spending cause we are 20 trill in debt.

and we gotta build a wall.

i'm trying to figure out how cutting taxes for the wealthy is gonna make any of those situations better.

it seems like conservatives only want to be fiscally conservative when liberals are in power.

other than that, it's always time to make it rain with conservatives/GOP

DC and Columbus needs their yachts built faster.
don't know what that has to do with Bernie butttttt


NK and IRAN last I checked we are not at war with

are you opposed to the opioid emergency? why do you hate addicts?

we don't have a spending problem, we have a swamp problem - people getting 400 for a hammer is the problem. boeing overcharging for AFO a problem - that was fixed huh

did you see that MSNB video of them broadcasting by the wall prototypes, their point was to show there is a fence there already, as they were filming, about 6 illegals hopped that fence and scattered right in their broadcast lol.

keep trying to figure it out, its obviously too complex for you. I am still trying to figure out how someone who does not pay taxes gets a 15K return every year.

You do realize that DC is vastly democratic right?

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we don't have a spending problem?

you officially have no idea what you're talking about.

and i was taking a friendly shot a DC the poster. but ofcourse you thought i was talking about the district.


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You do realize that DC is vastly democratic right?


lmao what?

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and i was taking a friendly shot a DC the poster
very easy to mistake. Unlike you and the left, I can admit when I made one.

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we don't have a spending problem?
no, I keep hearing from the left we need to spend more, more welfare, single payer, more entitlements...so how can we be spending too much swish?

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Interesting.

We're not at war with NK or Iran. At this time, that is.

I think fighting the opiod crisis is a good idea, but it will fail, just the the war on other drugs has.

Yes, we should reel in spending. It's crazy. I think you would agree.

Build a wall, or keep paying for illegals? Your choice.

Cut taxes for the wealthy? Or cut taxes for everyone? (that actually pay in) Give a million dollar earner a 2% tax cut, he saves $20,000. Give a guy that makes $50,000 a 2% tax cut, he saves $1000.

Spend less - gov't. that is.

Create jobs.......although I don't mean gov't. jobs, because those are net losses really.

DC and Columbus don't own yachts that I know of. But, I do know that people in this country work at yacht builders, and boat builders, etc. Those are good paying jobs. Why would anyone want to kill those jobs?

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single payer will actually save us money.

and us liberals support policies that will lower the need for people to be on welfare.

it's also odd that you talk about welfare and benefits when:

Red States Are Welfare Queens

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...ies-red-states/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...-leaning-state/
http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/s...-states-are-re/

damn bro. sup with that?

i had actually did this for a project a few weeks ago and came across this:

Blue State, Red Face: Guess Who Benefits More From Your Taxes?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckoning...your_taxes.html

looks like we spend way too much money on conservatives and republican states. you're right, we should cut back smile


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single payer will actually save us money.

and us liberals support policies that will lower the need for people to be on welfare.

it's also odd that you talk about welfare and benefits when:

Red States Are Welfare Queens

http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...ies-red-states/
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...-leaning-state/
http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/s...-states-are-re/

damn bro. sup with that?

i had actually did this for a project a few weeks ago and came across this:

Blue State, Red Face: Guess Who Benefits More From Your Taxes?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_reckoning...your_taxes.html

looks like we spend way too much money on conservatives and republican states. you're right, we should cut back smile
its funny you think I care if its a rep or dem abusing welfare.......that's where the country is, its not a wrong unless its the other side. smh.

I don't care if its a blue state green state or purple state, welfare abuse is rampant. opiods are rampant, to coin your queens slogan, what difference does it make,

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so you been bringing up left this, obama that, us liberals this and that.

then i hit you with facts and its "oh, i dont care about left vs right".

the more you talk the worse you look.


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If you are poor and able bodied and are not working 16 hours per day, 6 days per week to improve your finances,

OR...

If you are poor and able bodied and are not working 10 hours per day and studying for an online degree for 6 hours per day, 6 days per week,

You are doing yourself and your family a disservice.

Grow your wealth, learn to invest, get a degree, and get out of the wagon to help push!

Capitalism will help you.
Those who carried you will then applaud you.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
so you been bringing up left this, obama that, us liberals this and that.

then i hit you with facts and its "oh, i dont care about left vs right".

the more you talk the worse you look.


Pretty sure he's one of the folks who get mad that black people don't talk about black on black violence.

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can't grow wealth if your precious 1% refuse to help us out.

can't invest if yall screw up the 401k's and such

can't get a degree with such sky high cost.

can't get out of the wagon if we have opioid induced constipation.


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The one percent have helped themselves to get there.
Why do you insist others help you to do it?

Get off the couch and make something of yourselves!

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The one percent have helped themselves to get there.
Why do you insist others help you to do it?

Get off the couch and make something of yourselves!


I disagree there. I have 2 cousins that are probably in the 1%....maybe just the 5%. Compliments of their dad.

I do see that some people are wealthy because of their family and not of there own doing. I get it.

Am I envious of my cousins? To a degree, yes. To a large degree, no. They aren't any happier than I am when you get right down to it.

I have wants and desires, just as they do. Their wants and desires are more expensive than mine, but it is what it is.

They are absolutely not 1 bit happier than I am.

I'm loving my life as it is. Do I want more? Sure, but by the same token, what would it do for me, really?

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The one percent have helped themselves to get there.
Why do you insist others help you to do it?

Get off the couch and make something of yourselves!


did they?

hmmm....should we do a DT research project?

how many inherited their wealth vs "self-made"?

and when did the one percent become the one percent? was income inequality as high as it was? was the cost of tuition as high as it was? was the cost of living as high as it was?

you missing a whole ton of math with a whole ton of context there bro.

as i've said before, the wealthy will be wealthy.

i only have a problem with people building wealth in a way that screws so many people over.

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Self made here.

Still alive so my kids are self made.

My father and grandfather and great grandfather and great great grandfather were self made.

Not saying they were rich but they did good and had good lives.

I believe their are more people in the top 20 who made it there on their own. Dad's money may have pushed them up to the top 5 or 1 percent but most of the battle was theirs.

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Dad's money


uh huh.


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I said it before, I don't suffer fools well.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
If you are poor and able bodied and are not working 16 hours per day, 6 days per week to improve your finances,

OR...

If you are poor and able bodied and are not working 10 hours per day and studying for an online degree for 6 hours per day, 6 days per week,

You are doing yourself and your family a disservice.

Grow your wealth, learn to invest, get a degree, and get out of the wagon to help push!

Capitalism will help you.
Those who carried you will then applaud you.


As proof of what I say I present my witnesses, The Mexicans and the Chinese who came here legally. Worked day and night, living 20 to an apartment built for 5. They got jobs, pooled their money until one of them would open a small business, usually a restaurant so the leftovers could feed them.

They worked hard and long so as the business grew they would one by one quit their jobs to work at the restaurant, always pooling their money until one by one they became independent and opened other small businesses.

Eventually they got to the point where they sent for family to come here, legally, to work.

Capitalism works if you will only get off your arse!

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If you are poor and able bodied and are not working 16 hours per day, 6 days per week to improve your finances,

OR...

If you are poor and able bodied and are not working 10 hours per day and studying for an online degree for 6 hours per day, 6 days per week,

You are doing yourself and your family a disservice.

Grow your wealth, learn to invest, get a degree, and get out of the wagon to help push!

Capitalism will help you.
Those who carried you will then applaud you.


As proof of what I say I present my witnesses, The Mexicans and the Chinese who came here legally. Worked day and night, living 20 to an apartment built for 5. They got jobs, pooled their money until one of them would open a small business, usually a restaurant so the leftovers could feed them.

They worked hard and long so as the business grew they would one by one quit their jobs to work at the restaurant, always pooling their money until one by one they became independent and opened other small businesses.

Eventually they got to the point where they sent for family to come here, legally, to work.

Capitalism works if you will only get off your arse!


There are thousands and thousands of people here in Hartford alone whose job is to not work.

They are second and third generation welfare experts.

They know the system and have many relatives in the welfare offices.

I think it's all thanks to LBJ's Great Society.



Any infringement on their welfare benefits will be met with cries of social injustice.

And justified riots, looting and murder.


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Socialism Doesn't Work!
Socialism Won't Work!
Socialism Refuses to Work!

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when you keep repeating it over and over, it sounds like indoctrination.


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Socialist indoctrination is what you've been drinking.

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it taste way better than the juice jim jones has been giving you.


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How do you know that? You admit you tasted Jim Jones' juice?

To easy man, too easy. rofl

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Cause I’m not a brainless zombie


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Do you believe consumers deserve any protection? If so, from what and in what way. I thought class action was an efficiency short cut for businesses and banks to consolidate into a single ruling.


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so you been bringing up left this, obama that, us liberals this and that.

then i hit you with facts and its "oh, i dont care about left vs right".

the more you talk the worse you look.


Pretty sure he's one of the folks who get mad that black people don't talk about black on black violence.
Pretty sure I have never said that once in my life, unlike you bigots, I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.

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I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


I think they are closely related. One being the cause of the other.


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I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


I think they are closely related. One being the cause of the other.
Too each their own, however I do not think its wise to put words into others mouths, or insinuate they stated something they did not. Now if it was merrily a mistake on your part, fine. However you stated I said something I have not, and have not retracted that statement yet, even in your reply.

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Pretty sure I have never said that once in my life, unlike you bigots, I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


I'll give you props for seeing that much and being honest enough to say it.

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I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


I think they are closely related. One being the cause of the other.
Too each their own, however I do not think its wise to put words into others mouths, or insinuate they stated something they did not. Now if it was merrily a mistake on your part, fine. However you stated I said something I have not, and have not retracted that statement yet, even in your reply.


I'm sure it was more merrily than merely...

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: Swish
so you been bringing up left this, obama that, us liberals this and that.

then i hit you with facts and its "oh, i dont care about left vs right".

the more you talk the worse you look.


Pretty sure he's one of the folks who get mad that black people don't talk about black on black violence.
Pretty sure I have never said that once in my life, unlike you bigots, I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


Uh huh. That's why you're always posting idpol bullcrap on here.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: Swish
so you been bringing up left this, obama that, us liberals this and that.

then i hit you with facts and its "oh, i dont care about left vs right".

the more you talk the worse you look.


Pretty sure he's one of the folks who get mad that black people don't talk about black on black violence.
Pretty sure I have never said that once in my life, unlike you bigots, I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


Uh huh. That's why you're always posting idpol bullcrap on here.
so me posting that the left using idpol is stupid is me talking about black on black violence........

pretty sure its the opposite

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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
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I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


I think they are closely related. One being the cause of the other.

You think people become black because they are poor? I agree.


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I don't think its a race problem, its economical problem.


I think they are closely related. One being the cause of the other.

You think people become black because they are poor? I agree.


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