|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Legend
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195 |
what if the browns suck in parallel universes? Hmm, maybe our real winning team was sucked to the other universe and we got stuck with this garbage?
#GMSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,546
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,546 |
I have defended this front office and coach a lot. I don't even like or want A.J. McCarron. This is incompetence. This is a fireable offense. I mean, they were all getting fired anyway, but here's another nail in the coffin. Just pitiful.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
what if the browns suck in parallel universes? Hmm, maybe our real winning team was sucked to the other universe and we got stuck with this garbage? They're in Baltimore.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195 |
what if the browns suck in parallel universes? Hmm, maybe our real winning team was sucked to the other universe and we got stuck with this garbage? They're in Baltimore. That rabbit hole just makes this all that much worse.
#GMSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822 |
I think about all the crap I have taken from the many expert members of this message, for being the first and most outspoken on this front office.
Do understand this, I have never asked for anyone to be fired because I still believe it is an easy fix by just adding a GM football guy to oversee, control of the 53 and have input into the process.
Can the analytics types work with football people?
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
Home of the Free, Because of the Brave...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399 |
I have defended this front office and coach a lot. I don't even like or want A.J. McCarron. This is incompetence. Sad thing is, I think we have a decent coach if he was given time and talent to grow into the position and I think we have a pretty good DC... but there really is no defending this FO...
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
I have defended this front office and coach a lot. I don't even like or want A.J. McCarron. This is incompetence. This is a fireable offense. I mean, they were all getting fired anyway, but here's another nail in the coffin. Just pitiful. Agreed. This whole thing wreaks. If anyone thinks McCarron is the answer to any QB question, that's incompetent. The fact that they didn't call in the trade in time, that's incompetent. The fact that they've been blowing smoke up Kizer's butt since they draft him, then undercut him by trading for another QB (but not actually trading for him), is incompetent. It seems like this attempted trade is a reaction to not getting Garoppolo. If that's the case, they are panicking. Incompetence. So dumb. All of them.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
That's not why you've taken crap.
I could explain it to you but you wouldn't get it.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
I have defended this front office and coach a lot. I don't even like or want A.J. McCarron. This is incompetence. Sad thing is, I think we have a decent coach if he was given time and talent to grow into the position and I think we have a pretty good DC... but there really is no defending this FO... Except then you remember that it's the coach who probably wanted A.J. McCarron!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
I have defended this front office and coach a lot. I don't even like or want A.J. McCarron. This is incompetence. Sad thing is, I think we have a decent coach if he was given time and talent to grow into the position and I think we have a pretty good DC... but there really is no defending this FO... Except then you remember that it's the coach who probably wanted A.J. McCarron! He also wanted RG3. The earth moved beneath his feet.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy  
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822 |
rish...I didn't name you or anyone...
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
Home of the Free, Because of the Brave...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 5,386 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy I would have burnt Berea to the ground.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 15,341 |
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy If that is true. . . That does not seem something like our front office would do. Maybe they are trying to appease the coach? Maybe they missed the deadline on purpose? Anything is possible with this trainwreck. Link: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/...rron/819064001/
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822 |
dep..imo, it shows how much pressure they were putting on themselves, attempting to make up for their massive ineptness.
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
Home of the Free, Because of the Brave...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy If that is true. . . That does not seem something like our front office would do. Maybe they are trying to appease the coach? Maybe they missed the deadline on purpose? Anything is possible with this trainwreck. Link: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/...rron/819064001/From the link: Multiple league sources told The Enquirer there was a disconnect in Cleveland between the personnel department and the coaching staff about McCarron, which has hindered talks between the two franchises about the quarterback dating back to the spring.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,546
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,546 |
Cleveland Browns miss chance to land Cincinnati Bengals quarterback AJ McCarron Jim Owczarski, jowczarski@enquirer.com Published 5:22 p.m. ET Oct. 31, 2017 | Updated 5:44 p.m. ET Oct. 31, 2017 The Enquirer confirmed an ESPN report that the Cincinnati Bengals and Cleveland Browns discussed a trade for backup quarterback AJ McCarron.
The Bengals had previously required a first-round pick for McCarron, but the price had moved. A league source with knowledge of the talks indicated the Browns were willing to move second and third-round picks in 2018 for the backup.
The Enquirer confirmed from two league sources that the Browns ultimately did not send the paperwork to the league office.
Multiple league sources told The Enquirer there was a disconnect in Cleveland between the personnel department and the coaching staff about McCarron, which has hindered talks between the two franchises about the quarterback dating back to the spring.
A league source confirmed the Browns did try to appeal to the league to get the deal done, and ESPN reported the league rejected that appeal. Article
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,399 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy So we were going to give up MORE for McCarren than the 49ers did for Jimmy G? Yea, that's nuts and has "Save my job" desperation written all over it.
yebat' Putin
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 13,822 |
cfrs...I think you are going to need a better excuse for this mess...blame it on Halloween.
FOOTBALL IS NOT BASEBALL
Home of the Free, Because of the Brave...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy So we were going to give up MORE for McCarren than the 49ers did for Jimmy G? Yea, that's nuts and has "Save my job" desperation written all over it. Seriously.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 518
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 518 |
So glad we didn't get McCarron! Just another head ache!
Exciting football will be back in Cleveland this fall!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767 |
If there's any fire to all this smoke just terminate today.
Hire a think tank to find the best available football guy. Just keep the Haslams away!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy So we were going to give up MORE for McCarren than the 49ers did for Jimmy G? Yea, that's nuts and has "Save my job" desperation written all over it. Seriously. So they even screwed up their screw up! 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,470
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,470 |
we are in midseason form everyone!!
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,546
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,546 |
Hire a think tank to find the best available football guy. Just keep the Haslams away! Please not Korn Ferry.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 518
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2017
Posts: 518 |
If there's any fire to all this smoke just terminate today.
Hire a think tank to find the best available football guy. Just keep the Haslams away! The front office is in a PANIC!!!!
Exciting football will be back in Cleveland this fall!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,870
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,870 |
You know my love will Not Fade Away.........
#gmSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,795
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,795 |
This organization is a complete joke from the top down. The ineptitude is staggering.
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767 |
Hire a think tank to find the best available football guy. Just keep the Haslams away! Please not Korn Ferry. Thinking more along the lines of some great football minds not an Executive Search group. Get a number of opinions and TRY to form some sort of consensus. Even that's scary...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,001
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,001 |
Save us Peyton Manning!!!!
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544 |
Tony Grossi reported the Browns were celebrating the trade and forgot to call in the deal before the deadline, according to college Aaron Goldhammer. Schefter added details on what the Browns did once they realized the deadline had passed: Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Browns disputed proposed AJ McCarron trade to NFL, arguing it should be allowed, per source. NFL declined - no trade, officially, per source http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27418...before-deadline
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195 |
Bruce Drennan just reported we were trading a 2nd and 3rd for McCarran ... Crazy Well at least we still have our 2nd and 3rd that we can use to get a 6th and a 7th round talent in next years draft.
#GMSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,428
Legend
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 50,428 |
I am not at all upset that we missed on adding McCarron. Bleh. I hate that we were even considering him. 
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,563
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,563 |
The final nail in the coffin
you had a good run Hank.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,001
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,001 |
At least we dodged a bullet for once. Still sickening though.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
Tony Grossi reported the Browns were celebrating the trade and forgot to call in the deal before the deadline Goldhammer is a moron, but this was still funny.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,068
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,068 |
We are still retaining our own, right?
Not sure who the Harvards are building around. Wanted JG myself for quite some time.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767 |
Tony Grossi reported the Browns were celebrating the trade and forgot to call in the deal before the deadline, according to college Aaron Goldhammer. Schefter added details on what the Browns did once they realized the deadline had passed: Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter Browns disputed proposed AJ McCarron trade to NFL, arguing it should be allowed, per source. NFL declined - no trade, officially, per source http://bleacherreport.com/articles/27418...before-deadline Doesn't do much for an organization clawing for ANY positive press. Not ONE person stopped celebrating to say, "Hey, we better call this in"! Away with them.
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns try to trade for McCarron
|
|
