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3 years....15 mil tops.
OK....add some performance incentives. If he is just wanting to get back to where he could have been, he can go pound salt.
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With TP back, Corey, and a productive JG, with his problems hopefully over, our wr's would look pretty good. We would need to get another one somewhere but I'd take that group any day.
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i'd like pryor, gordon, coleman
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With Seth and David... I like our targets a lot then lol.
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i'd like pryor, gordon, coleman Ok, but who do you keep of whose on the team now. Coates, Britt, Louis, Higgans, Kassen Williams, and Treggs. When is Corey going to be healthy, Josh going to be un suspended and Pryor going to come back home.
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Britt
Coates
Treggs
Hollywood Higgins
Ricardo Louis
Kasen
In that order, don't even blink an eye. These guys couldn't produce in an entire season what Gordon, Coleman or Pryor could in half the time.
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Hate to ruin the party, but exactly what has Coleman done in the NFL?
I'm not being snarky at all. I just haven't seen much from him. I remember one good game. That's it.
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Hate to ruin the party, but exactly what has Coleman done in the NFL?
I'm not being snarky at all. I just haven't seen much from him. I remember one good game. That's it. Ricardo Louis, 81 targets, zero TD's, 497 yards Hollywood Higgins, 44, zero TD's, 227 yards Corey Coleman, 87 targets, 4 td's, 475 yards Corey Coleman has been our best WR whenever he steps on the field. The talent is undeniable.
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These guys couldn't produce in an entire season what Gordon, Coleman or Pryor could in half the time. 2017 Pryor: 20 catches - 240 yards - 1 TD 2017 Louis: 25 catches - 307 yards - 0 TD Pryor was not even targeted a single time today. I think we can set the bar a little higher than Pryor.
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All 3 sucked, CHS.
Pryor, Hawkins, Barnidge, and Duke were all more productive than any of those stiffs.
I am not saying he won't ever be good, but he has done nothing to earn praise. Nothing.
Now, you'll probably get mad and make a personal comment, so I'm out.
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I've said constantly how Duke is our best WR. I've stated multiple times that it's moronic that Hue doesn't have him in the H back role more. But Corey Coleman is a playmaker when he's on the field. Our WR core is weak, but Coleman is a special player. I think haphazardly judging an injury plagued season, including a broken hand, is short sighted. When the ball is in his hands, his talent is undeniable. It's evident when you watch him play. Although it might be awhile since we've seen him play.
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Cory has to play, that's the problem with broken hand man.
Pryor is yesterday, I get that some of you want to hug him cuz he went to OSU, but he's pushing 30. $15 million, for Pryor? LOL!
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Cory has to play, that's the problem with broken hand man.
Pryor is yesterday, I get that some of you want to hug him cuz he went to OSU, but he's pushing 30. $15 million, for Pryor? LOL! That's the thing. Some on here are saying "Give me coleman, pryor, and gordon, and our w.r. positions are fantastic." In theory, ok. In reality - how many games has coleman actually played in? What has pryor done this year, with a "good" qb throwing the ball? And, when's the last time gordon even played?
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I'd take pryor because he has shown that on the BROWNS he can produce. All the soap drama don't matter to me because while he is with the Browns Hue will use him the right way.
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Pryor is good for sprinting down the sideline and making jump balls.
I do believe a good chunk of the 'skin's passing game is timing patterns.
Kirk throws to spots on the field, it is the WR's duty to be there when he does.
If the WR doesn't run his route correctly the play doesn't work.
if Pryor's route is not right then the ball seems to be under/over, behind/in front of the WR...
not the case imo. Pryor is running poor routes and is not where he is supposed to be.
hence in my opinion the demotion of Pryor in Washington.
well at least that is the way I see it.
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i'd like pryor, gordon, coleman Ok, but who do you keep of whose on the team now. Coates, Britt, Louis, Higgans, Kassen Williams, and Treggs. When is Corey going to be healthy, Josh going to be un suspended and Pryor going to come back home. If it's me, I keep Higgins, Treggs, and Louis.
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Much less than what his agent convinced him he is worth. I would make a simple one year offer. Pryor/Gordon/ Coleman would be a tough cover. Hue would give them all four yard routes on the sideline, and Kizer would overthrow it probably. But it might be watchable.
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Pryor is yesterday, I get that some of you want to hug him cuz he went to OSU, but he's pushing 30. $15 million, for Pryor? LOL! Yes, moving on. Auden Tate anyone?
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One is injured...the other one is just sucking at his profession. What is your point?
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I can see the Browns signing Pryor as a FA next off-season. Probably around the 4 year/ $8 mil. mark we offered last year. I would not be shocked if it was slightly lower, but around the original offer.
If Britt can play as well as he did yesterday for the remainder of the year, I could see us keeping him (however, I don't see that happening).
Although Pryor would help improve a bad WR unit, I do not feel he nor Britt are Pro Bowl receivers. I would much rather go after a top WR in this years draft. Will we ever acquire a game changing receiver like AJ Green, Julio Jones or Randy Moss? I am positive neither Britt nor Pryor are that guy.
For the love of God, please quit blaming the FO for Pryor not being here. It is a dead issue, and in no way should they have signed him to a one year deal. period! Now, Kenny Britt is another story, but as bad as he has been... Tretter, Zeitler and McCourty have done very well, take into account the development of S. Coleman, Drango and Schoebrt I think the FO has done a pretty good job less than 2 years into the process.
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I don't see why any team's offer wouldn't be SIGNIFICANTLY lower after seeing him play this season.
He and his agent gambled and they lost. Big time. I guess he could turn it around but I won't hold my breath.
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Dawg, our FO has done better than people have given them credit for. Have they made mistakes? sure but that's to be expected, every FO does. I feel we are on the right track. We are developing players and we have another draft with a lot of high picks to go not to mention another FA period. Stay the course, give these guys another 2 years and we may really have a solid foundation for the future. JMO
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Better off just signing a guy who's actually played WR more than a couple years if you're going to sign a almost 30 year old WR
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How about we wait til the off season and see what available ....
I’d approach like we need a #1 and get the best available in FA ... if that don’t work ... see how the draft unfolds ....
We can’t count on Josh or Coleman regardless of what they do the rest of this year based on their history ... if their back next year w/o their seperate issues raring there ugly heads ... that would just be a BONUS ... and Josh could be ONE HELL OF A BONUS!!!!!!!
Personally if i ran the team ... Secondary help would be #1 ... we can have a DOMINANT ASS D if we shore up the secondary .... thats the way I’d go .. but we still have 7 more games to play before we get there ...
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He and his agent gambled and they lost. 
I always try to think in terms of the team and winning. I ask myself, are the Browns a better team without Pryor?
The Browns, once again are in 1st place in "cap space available"..with $62.5 mill. I hear that Sashi has a Lombardi trophy sitting in his office...it says...
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Sashi was given full control over the roster and is responsible for finding the talent needed to build the Browns into a winning franchise. Sashi's record on the football side as the Browns GM...1 win and 24 losses.
Sashi's phone call to the Redskins attempting to get Pryor back had to be a bit tough on Sashi's ego, but getting turned down by the Redskins GM, had to be a relief for Sashi..at least he doesn't have to face Pryor every day.
Not a good week for the Browns front office...0-2 on signing QBs and 0-1 signing wrs...and Browns lost to the Lions and now lead the league with the worst record in the NFL.
The way I see it, there are no winners in Cleveland...Sashi and his front office lost the bye week...failing to add any of the talent the HC would have liked and on the football field, the Browns continue to lose with the worst record in the NFL.
NOT A GOOD WEEK FOR THE BROWNS !!
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Pryor is yesterday, I get that some of you want to hug him cuz he went to OSU, but he's pushing 30. $15 million, for Pryor? LOL! Yes, moving on. Auden Tate anyone? Was interested before the season, but not as much now. Seems to get banged up a lot. Jaleel Scott, New Mexico State is a name I'm looking into now. Highlights look nice. Hands looked nice against Arizona State and Arkansas but, again, only saw highlights. Need to find full games when I have more time. Think he got a Sr. Bowl invite, so should get some decent looks there.
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One is injured...the other one is just sucking at his profession. What is your point? I'm not sure what you are talking about. Will you please elaborate?
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He and his agent gambled and they lost.
I always try to think in terms of the team and winning. I ask myself, are the Browns a better team without Pryor?
The Browns, once again are in 1st place in "cap space available"..with $62.5 mill. I hear that Sashi has a Lombardi trophy sitting in his office...it says...
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Sashi was given full control over the roster and is responsible for finding the talent needed to build the Browns into a winning franchise. Sashi's record on the football side as the Browns GM...1 win and 24 losses.
Sashi's phone call to the Redskins attempting to get Pryor back had to be a bit tough on Sashi's ego, but getting turned down by the Redskins GM, had to be a relief for Sashi..at least he doesn't have to face Pryor every day.
Not a good week for the Browns front office...0-2 on signing QBs and 0-1 signing wrs...and Browns lost to the Lions and now lead the league with the worst record in the NFL.
The way I see it, there are no winners in Cleveland...Sashi and his front office lost the bye week...failing to add any of the talent the HC would have liked and on the football field, the Browns continue to lose with the worst record in the NFL.
NOT A GOOD WEEK FOR THE BROWNS !!
I bet Sashi would look Pryor right in the eye...I doubt Drew Rosenhaus would do the same.
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He and his agent gambled and they lost.
I always try to think in terms of the team and winning. I ask myself, are the Browns a better team without Pryor?
The Browns, once again are in 1st place in "cap space available"..with $62.5 mill. I hear that Sashi has a Lombardi trophy sitting in his office...it says...
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Sashi was given full control over the roster and is responsible for finding the talent needed to build the Browns into a winning franchise. Sashi's record on the football side as the Browns GM...1 win and 24 losses.
Sashi's phone call to the Redskins attempting to get Pryor back had to be a bit tough on Sashi's ego, but getting turned down by the Redskins GM, had to be a relief for Sashi..at least he doesn't have to face Pryor every day.
Not a good week for the Browns front office...0-2 on signing QBs and 0-1 signing wrs...and Browns lost to the Lions and now lead the league with the worst record in the NFL.
The way I see it, there are no winners in Cleveland...Sashi and his front office lost the bye week...failing to add any of the talent the HC would have liked and on the football field, the Browns continue to lose with the worst record in the NFL.
NOT A GOOD WEEK FOR THE BROWNS !!
I bet Sashi would look Pryor right in the eye...I doubt Drew Rosenhaus would do the same. If I was Pryor, I'd think about new representation. Rosenhaus may have cost Pryor millions of guaranteed money walking away from the Browns initial offer. If Pryor made that call on his own, that's different, but I doubt it.
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The full, year-by-year contract details for Cleveland Browns WR Kenny Britt are now available, via multiple sources. We will take a look at the structure of his contract, such as his base salary, guaranteed money, and cap hits. Britt’s deal is considered to be 4 years for $32.5 million with $10.5 million fully guaranteed. WR Kenny Britt’s Contract, Cap Hits Per Year Year Base Salary Signing Bonus Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Total Cap Hit 2017 $4,000,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $5,625,000 2018 $6,500,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $8,125,000 2019 $7,750,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $9,375,000 2020 $7,750,000 $1,625,000 $0 $0 $9,375,000 Total $26,000,000 $6,500,000 $0 $0 $32,500,000 Britt has $10.5 million fully guaranteed at signing. That includes his $4 million base salary in 2017 and his $6.5 million signing bonus (pro-rated to $1.625 million per year against the cap). On the third day of the 2018 league year, Britt’s $6.5 million base salary will become fully guaranteed. If Britt is considered a bust and they want to cut him early next offseason, they’d only carry $4.875 million in dead cap space. It gets even cheaper to cut him in 2019 or 2020, when his higher base salary is not guaranteed. Overall, this is a semi-big commitment to Britt, but they’re really only tied to him for a year or two. If he’s productive, the team can keep him around and will be willing to pay the price. If he’s suffered a decline, or if there is a better wide receiver on the market who they’d rather pay, they can cut ties with Britt and allocate that money to the new receiver. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/14/...with-the-brownshttps://overthecap.com/player/kenny-britt/1723/Britt is effectively on a one year Prove It deal, same as Pryor. It's actually a genius way to structure a longer contract. You can get rid of them after one year for very little investment, but if they earn their privilege of staying they get paid well. Win-Win with the better leverage to the team.
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Additionally, what I see this FO doing is not allowing players and their agents to play us off another team - or play another team off of us. Ever since we've been so flush with cap space and cash, we've been a de facto target in negotiations; any time a player is in negotiations, we're almost ALWAYS rumored to be involved and yes sometimes we are, but I'd wager that mostly it is because agents and teams alike know that we have money to spend, so if a team wants to get a player, they'll need to spend.
For several years, it has been a regular occurrence for a player's agent to strike up a deal with another team then come back to us for "an opportunity to match" and all that is really happens is that it gets the other team to up their offer a little before the player signs. It's basically exactly what happened with Alex Mack, and I believe Schwartz as well... and I would not be surprised in the least if it wasn't what happened with Pryor. Actually, I fully expect it to the point I'd be shocked if it was not what happened.
Sure, the agent and player get to say that they came back to us, but they never intended to sign here - they were just using us to drive up the other team. This FO doesn't play with that and doesn't buy into it, and I LIKE THAT.
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I'm not sure what you are talking about. Will you please elaborate?That's funny cause its exactly what I had asked...lol 
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That is one way to look at it. And another way to look at it is that players will want to leave here and/or not sign here.
Thus, the team loses a lot of games and we can fire coaches as if that will fix the problem of having inadequate talent.
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I'm not sure what you are talking about. Will you please elaborate?That's funny cause its exactly what I had asked...lol Okay, let me try it this way: What would you like me to elaborate on?
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I agree. Turn us down, the offer might not be there when you come back.
I like it too....come back to us one last time, so they can go back and give the other team one last chance.
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It wasn't our fault we lost TP in the first place. They made more than a fair deal to him and he didn't want it or thought he could do better. This ones not on our FO.
The Browns made a mess of the WR deal in an attempt to save a few bucks. They offered him a four year deal, he wanted a one year show me deal. Pryor screwed the pooch all by himself. Now Washington could be limiting his reps to keep his price down. That's what you would accuse the Browns of doing. If he was as good as most claim he was going to be, there would not be an issue right now. He knows our offense, and the WRs we have now stink. I think it was smart to try and get him back. It would even be less than their original offer.
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