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"This is all a left-wing witch hunt hatched by...Alabama law enforcement"

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You would think that the state of Alabama ran out of conservative Republicans! Old Roy has 5 different women saying that they were young and he tried to sexually assault them.

Just pick another one and let Old Roy face the music for his actions. And BTW, he is a pedophile, PERIOD, THEN END!! What 30 year old man writes in a kids yearbook who is not a teacher at the school?? PLEASE

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This is a byproduct of Trump. The GOP saw a racist sexual predator win a major election and thought "oh, well I guess we can do this anywhere", neglecting to realize the only reason Trump won was because of his opponent.

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I've done a lot in my life I've been ashamed of and embarrassed about.

But, man, I would need to take a long shower if it ever came to the point where I went to bat for a pedophile.

Again - 40, Diam, willitevachange: you should be deeply ashamed of yourselves. You went to bat for a pedophile, despite mountains of evidence against him. That takes a truly sick and narrow mindset to pull off.

Truly. You should feel deep shame. If you don't, take a look in the mirror.

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But to them it’s fine because he stands for the National anthem.


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But to them it’s fine because he stands for the National anthem.


Honestly...this doesn't even belong in the framework of politics (even though it's politically driven).

Obviously a lot of the crew defending this pervert were never bound for the honor roll, but I don't understand how anyone could look at 50+ people saying "Yeah, this guy molests children" and respond with "this is the libs' fault".

Certain things should transcend politics. People raping and molesting underage kids is one of them.

I don't care what your political affiliations are - a decent human being with rational thought should've immediately said to themselves "this guy is a sick pervert" DAYS ago. Instead, they pushed forward with a narrative that this pederast was an innocent who was framed, despite a mountain of evidence against the notion.

Some of them are simply too dumb to know better, but many should've and did, and merely pushed forward due to the rules of political football.

Truly creepy and revolting. I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

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Judge Sues

You were saying .


He'll is short for He will. Meaning he hasn't yet. So I guess I get to say Fake News now ??? smile


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Over the years there have been several threads dealing with pedophilia.

Until this particular thread popped up, universal condemnation was the norm. I found those threads boring because they were ALWAYS echo chambers: 50 different guys from 50 different walks of life, all comparing how they'd deal with a 'sicko.'

That was then.



"too many notes, not enough music-"

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The Left prosecutes sexual predators. The Right elects them.


Bill.

Next topic.


Bill was prosecuted. Impeached. Censored.

Trump. .. Back on topic


The topic is sexual predators.

Unfortunately, it's a wide net, and Bill Clinton is most certainly caught in it.

This shouldn't be a political issue.

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Originally Posted By: Clemdawg
Over the years there have been several threads dealing with pedophilia.

Until this particular thread popped up, universal condemnation was the mood. I found those threads boring because they were ALWAYS echo chambers: 50 different guys from 50 different walks of life, all comparing how they'd deal with a 'sicko.'

That was then.


Sigh.

Well put.

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Nothing can be done about the court of public opinion. But the fact that he has done nothing against this woman in court against this "well timed attack" speaks volumes as well.


Judge Sues

You were saying .


*8 hours later*

MULTIPLE ALABAMA POLICE: "Yeah, we had to ban him from going to the mall because he kept trying to pick up underage girls"

Tell us some more about this vast liberal conspiracy that will be exposed in civil lawsuits...

I guess this is just one of those "he said/everyone else said" things.

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How sad and how true all at once. I can't believe we even have people in this thread consider a conspiracy theory as being more realistic than Roy Moore abusing his position decades ago.

This also isn't a left or right thing. We have seen so many people come out in recent months, whether politics or celebrity.. I think we are finally as a society listening to victims of sexual abuse. We should be happy for this development.


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I am.
The thought of My Wife, my sister or my nieces going through this is all it takes for me to know what's right and what's wrong.


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I've done a lot in my life I've been ashamed of and embarrassed about.

But, man, I would need to take a long shower if it ever came to the point where I went to bat for a pedophile.

Again - 40, Diam, willitevachange: you should be deeply ashamed of yourselves. You went to bat for a pedophile, despite mountains of evidence against him. That takes a truly sick and narrow mindset to pull off.

Truly. You should feel deep shame. If you don't, take a look in the mirror.


Wow... This New Yorker piece along with a fifth woman coming forward should be the end of any support for this guy. This thread should contain nothing but silence from the guys on the right now. How could anyone support this guy at this point? We'll see I guess.

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50 something different pastors came out in support of Roy Moore.

Talibangelicals are at it again. We got Christians defending pedophilia.

At this point the only difference I see between Christians in America and Muslims in the Middle East is that the constitution protects us from Christian wackjob rule.

Thankful for the us constitution and secularism or we’d still be hunting actual “witches” and killing gays at a disgusting level.


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Let me know the next time the Christians in america BEHEAD SOEMONE or put 100’s in a STEEL CAGE and DROWN THEM or we find MASS GRAVES of muslims that were executed by Christians ....

How anyone takes u seriously when u spew crap like this is beyond me ....

What a f’n joke of a statement ....

U seem to know quite a bit about the taliban .... whys that? ... where u been the last few days ... rofl ...




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i can let you know the next time they ram a car into a crowd like ISIS.

i can let you know the next time they shoot up an abortion clinic.

and i do know a lot about the taliban. unlike you i actually went to war against them.

again, the only thing that protects America from turning into the middle east is our constitution. without it, people like you would be doing some even crazier crap than we've already seen.


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Ya .. sounds like you learned an awful lot about them when your trying to compare a few whack job Christians to one of if not the most DEADLY and RUTHLESS TERRORIST groups ever ...

Keep talking Swish ... u just keep proving my point ...

I was to old to Jon and fight them or i would have in a heartbeat ...

U know nothing about my service ... NOTHING .... yet u BRAG about yours all the time .. just another difference between U and I ...

I’m out .. i don’t care to engage with someone who has no desire other than to beat me over the head with a stick for calling out their OUTRAGEOUS BS ...

Bye Bye Swish ...




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i know nothing about your service because i don't care to. it's meaningless to me quite frankly. whatever you did in the military got canceled out by you defending a pedophile.

let me repeat that again: whatever you did in the military got canceled out by you defending a pedophile.

but this is a common theme with not only you but a few others. you take a shot, i defend my position, then you go on with something about me bragging about my service and other senseless nonsense the moment you get embarrassed on the board.

it's common around here with people who don't have a clue about what they're talking about.

like you, for example.

anyway,

here is a guy who always preaches about god this, god that, a state that always preaches about god this, god that, yet is a certified creep. a guy who hung around malls in his 30's looking for underage girls to get with. a guy who sexual harrassed and assaulted underage girls.

and yet i log on to this board and see "christians" defending this sick bastard. i check the news, and there's a ton of pastors defending him. i look at news to see christians saying he should be given a second chance for pedophilia.

and yet guess what? if that was a muslim, hindu, or athiest being accused of this in america, the tone from you, 40, willit, and others would be completely different. FACT.

so yes, christians have a long history of violence and sexual abuse in this country, especially dealing with underage kids. FACT.

so you can act #triggered all you want about my comments, but i stand by my comments.

the US constitution is the one thing that protects America from turning into a christian version of the middle east. without it, i can't imagine that sicko creepy crap you christians would try to get away with if this country was based on christian rule.

we've already have an strong idea WITH the laws in place.

defending pedophilia. remind me to never bring my kids around you and others on this board.



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When a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it ... did it make any noise ...

Kinda like your post above ... if i don’t read it does it mean anything ...

rofl ...

Hope your post made u feel better ... cause i sure as all hell didn’t waste my time reading it ... thumbsup




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I've done a lot in my life I've been ashamed of and embarrassed about.

But, man, I would need to take a long shower if it ever came to the point where I went to bat for a pedophile.

Again - 40, Diam, willitevachange: you should be deeply ashamed of yourselves. You went to bat for a pedophile, despite mountains of evidence against him. That takes a truly sick and narrow mindset to pull off.

Truly. You should feel deep shame. If you don't, take a look in the mirror.
Once again, show me where anyone has "gone to bat" for him. You really need to take your "shame" and learn to read and comprehend.

If the guy is guilty the guy is guilty. However THOSE of us that use our HEADS instead of just plain political emotional heartstrings, realize that reports like this come out time after time again, against both sides. And until ALL FACTS have been laid out, it is a dangerous game to point fingers.

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You sure do have a lot to say for something you claimed not to have read.

But fake people are gonna be fake. It’s your right as an American, after all.


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This is an exact replica of Charlottesville and the COMPLETE LIES they concocted about us being racists and not denouncing the KKKers because we pointed out the FACT that some of the anti protesters went there looking for trouble ...

The FACT that one of their own liberal ass reporters was tweeting from the scene that the counter protesters were starting the trouble where she was is IGNORED and can’t be TRUE cause it hurts their talking points ... it seems they all went to the Saul Aliansky school on how to be turuthful and honest in a discussion ... rofl ...

They were LYING THEN just like their LYING NOW ....

My sole contribution to this thread when it comes to Moore was pointing out the accuser worked for the Killary campaign .. witch is a FACT ... thats it ... thats all i said on it ..

But the libs showing their class and INTEGRITY are saying i’m sticking up for a pedophile ... they may have even called me one or put me on the same level as one ... i don’t WASTE MUCH TIME READING them ... see my last “discussion” with Swish ...

Every threads the same few thoughts and BS tactics ...

Only one worth trying to discuss anything with is Clem .. other than that .. WASTE OF TIME ...




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Just yesterday you called it a case of "he said/she said", when it very clearly was not. That's willful ignorance- pretending that there aren't multiple corroborated accusations with 30+ sources going in the record.

Also, you cheerlead for a sexual predator who lacks basic understanding of the world around him and is very clearly suffering from early onset dementia. Couple that with this obtuse "he said/she said" nonsense in the name of caping for a pedophile, and it's kind of hard to claim you're using your head in any regard.

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Originally Posted By: PDF
Just yesterday you called it a case of "he said/she said", when it very clearly was not. That's willful ignorance- pretending that there aren't multiple corroborated accusations with 30+ sources going in the record.

Also, you cheerlead for a sexual predator who lacks basic understanding of the world around him and is very clearly suffering from early onset dementia. Couple that with this obtuse "he said/she said" nonsense in the name of caping for a pedophile, and it's kind of hard to claim you're using your head in any regard.
Gotcha, so not only are you in the entertainment business, you are a certified psychologist, lawyer, and investigator, that's a lot of college, not sure how you got all that in one lifetime. Congrats.

Until these 30 + sources go under oath or makes an official statement to authorities. What ever happened to all those trump accusers btw?

Once again, never said the guy was innocent or guilty, said need actual facts and evidence. Not sure whats so hard to understand about that. But feel free to call names and allege things about others - I am not the one who has OPENLY admitted on this board to allowing things like this to happen. What kind of man doesn't stand up for someone having this happen to them BTW? And you want to judge others.....

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This is an exact replica of Charlottesville and the COMPLETE LIES they concocted about us being racists and not denouncing the KKKers because we pointed out the FACT that some of the anti protesters went there looking for trouble ...

The FACT that one of their own liberal ass reporters was tweeting from the scene that the counter protesters were starting the trouble where she was is IGNORED and can’t be TRUE cause it hurts their talking points ... it seems they all went to the Saul Aliansky school on how to be turuthful and honest in a discussion ... rofl ...

They were LYING THEN just like their LYING NOW ....

My sole contribution to this thread when it comes to Moore was pointing out the accuser worked for the Killary campaign .. witch is a FACT ... thats it ... thats all i said on it ..

But the libs showing their class and INTEGRITY are saying i’m sticking up for a pedophile ... they may have even called me one or put me on the same level as one ... i don’t WASTE MUCH TIME READING them ... see my last “discussion” with Swish ...

Every threads the same few thoughts and BS tactics ...

Only one worth trying to discuss anything with is Clem .. other than that .. WASTE OF TIME ...

Weird that I call someone 1 name and I got suspended yet we can get called pedophiles, liars, idiots, etc and nothing. Kinda of points out who the refs are on this board.

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I am not the one who has OPENLY admitted on this board to allowing things like this to happen. What kind of man doesn't stand up for someone having this happen to them BTW? And you want to judge others.....


Someone I used to work with masturbated in front of someone I used to work with, and two years later, she confided in me that it happened.

It's a terrible look to blame victims and bystanders, all while being purposely obtuse in the name of defending a pervert.

And, yes, I most certainly am judging you for your willful ignorance when it comes to a pediphile. You called it a "he said/she said" matter. To say that, you either have to have no knowledge of the situation, or you're going to bat for a pedophile. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself, as should everyone else trying to pretend this is some "he said/she said" case that lacked concrete evidence. You pretended like it was some coordinated political witch hunt, long after it was obvious that this guy is a sexual predator.

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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
Weird that I call someone 1 name and I got suspended yet we can get called pedophiles, liars, idiots, etc and nothing. Kinda of points out who the refs are on this board.


Nah. I get suspended all the time and I'm on the opposite end of political views. But I've often felt the same way when it feels like my views are being deliberately shut down.

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I am not the one who has OPENLY admitted on this board to allowing things like this to happen. What kind of man doesn't stand up for someone having this happen to them BTW? And you want to judge others.....


Someone I used to work with masturbated in front of someone I used to work with, and two years later, she confided in me that it happened.

It's a terrible look to blame victims and bystanders, all while being purposely obtuse in the name of defending a pervert.

And, yes, I most certainly am judging you for your willful ignorance when it comes to a pediphile. You called it a "he said/she said" matter. To say that, you either have to have no knowledge of the situation, or you're going to bat for a pedophile. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself, as should everyone else trying to pretend this is some "he said/she said" case that lacked concrete evidence. You pretended like it was some coordinated political witch hunt, long after it was obvious that this guy is a sexual predator.


You wouldn't have to feel this way if they would just condemn the guy already. He's either a pedo at worst or at minimum a pervert. Either way there is no defense for defending him as an upstanding man.

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This is an exact replica of Charlottesville and the COMPLETE LIES they concocted about us being racists and not denouncing the KKKers because we pointed out the FACT that some of the anti protesters went there looking for trouble


Charlottesville was a racist rally organized by a white nationalist named Jason Kessler, who said "Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting Communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time." after the young girl was murdered.

It was most definitely a racist event created by racist people.

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Who knows, maybe the Alabama cops who banned him from a mall because he wouldn't stop trying to pick up young girls voted for Hillary or is on the Soros payroll.

Imagine being so immoral and soulless that upon hearing a fifth woman give a tearful account of being molested by a pedophile, and your first thought it "this sounds fishy. Probably a political hit job".

It's also worth mentioning the same thing happened here with Cosby. His accusers were in the 40's, and people were still arguing "this is a hit job".

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Just yesterday you called it a case of "he said/she said", when it very clearly was not. That's willful ignorance- pretending that there aren't multiple corroborated accusations with 30+ sources going in the record.

Also, you cheerlead for a sexual predator who lacks basic understanding of the world around him and is very clearly suffering from early onset dementia. Couple that with this obtuse "he said/she said" nonsense in the name of caping for a pedophile, and it's kind of hard to claim you're using your head in any regard.
Gotcha, so not only are you in the entertainment business, you are a certified psychologist, lawyer, and investigator, that's a lot of college, not sure how you got all that in one lifetime. Congrats.

Until these 30 + sources go under oath or makes an official statement to authorities. What ever happened to all those trump accusers btw?

Once again, never said the guy was innocent or guilty, said need actual facts and evidence. Not sure whats so hard to understand about that. But feel free to call names and allege things about others - I am not the one who has OPENLY admitted on this board to allowing things like this to happen. What kind of man doesn't stand up for someone having this happen to them BTW? And you want to judge others.....


He either stayed at a holiday inn last night or squeezed it in during rehab .... rofl

As far as being suspended ... not sure how much time the refs spend in here .. i know i wouldn’t if i were one ...

When i first came over ... Swish didn’t like me much ... rofl ...

So he lied about me prolly 30 - 40 times calling me a LUSH ... my only response was I don’t drink much a few beers a week at most ...

Then i got sick of it ... started calling him a stoner ... HES A SELF ADMITTED one .. one time he bragged about spending 100 a week on it .. IMO that made me calling him a stoner TRUE ...

He never got suspended once for calling me a lush witch is a LIE ... i call him a stoner and then i get suspended (pretty sure he did too) ...

On that one .. in defense of the ref who did it ... they did warn both of us before the suspensions ... so in that regard I had no probs with it .. i was warned, repeated the offense and got suspended ... THATS FAIR ...

It just begged the question ... WHY WAS IT OK FOR HIM TO CALL ME A LUSH at least 20 times before i told the truth about him ...

I dont understand that part .... but thats OK ... the refs have a tough ass job as it is ... and theres way more important things going on I don’t understand ...*LOL* ...

Then about a month or so ago ... Swish called me and i’m Quoting him here ...

Diam, your a PIECE OF CRAP and TRASH ...

no suspension for that one ... like i said .. not sure how much time the refs spend in this forum ... i don’t blame them for that ... i wouldn’t if i was them either ...

Just so u know .. this forum was created so we didn’t ruin the forum it used to be in ... this place is the SWAMP of Dawg Talk ... and creating this forum was a GREAT MOVE by the refs ... folks that have no desire are no longer exposed to this being 9 out of the top 10 topics in the old forum .. much more enjoyable for them ....

IMO, U just got unlucky and they saw your post when they were here or one of the libs blew u in ... thats me speculating .. i have no clue how much time the refs spend here or how it happened ...

The refs don’t have an easy job ... thats a FACT ...




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He either stayed at a holiday inn last night or squeezed it in during rehab .... rofl


I feel sorry for you.

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He either stayed at a holiday inn last night or squeezed it in during rehab .... rofl


I feel sorry for you.


I've been going through rehab myself after my hand surgery... thankfully I can still flip the bird.

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I know what kind of job they have.....used to be a ref on the original board smile I would bet some of those other refs back then are refs here now as well smile

The problem with my case to me was I was called and name and retaliated. I am not saying I should not have got suspended, however I am saying that BOTH of us should have - which didn't happen.

When I was a ref, and I would see a post that was either flagged or I came across it, I would always scroll up a bit and see why that offense was made.


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Paul Ryan and M McConnell say the reports of sexual misconduct are credible and Moore should step down. Only the extremely deplorable will back this POS.

We deserve the leaders we elect.


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I am not the one who has OPENLY admitted on this board to allowing things like this to happen. What kind of man doesn't stand up for someone having this happen to them BTW? And you want to judge others.....


Someone I used to work with masturbated in front of someone I used to work with, and two years later, she confided in me that it happened.

It's a terrible look to blame victims and bystanders, all while being purposely obtuse in the name of defending a pervert.

And, yes, I most certainly am judging you for your willful ignorance when it comes to a pediphile. You called it a "he said/she said" matter. To say that, you either have to have no knowledge of the situation, or you're going to bat for a pedophile. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself, as should everyone else trying to pretend this is some "he said/she said" case that lacked concrete evidence. You pretended like it was some coordinated political witch hunt, long after it was obvious that this guy is a sexual predator.


You wouldn't have to feel this way if they would just condemn the guy already. He's either a pedo at worst or at minimum a pervert. Either way there is no defense for defending him as an upstanding man.
Once again, I have said multiple times, if he did something he should be in jail or worse. How is it so hard for you guys to get through your heads -

I don't remember all this outrage when Weiner was under accusations from you guys, or when Bill was being accused, or etc etc. What is morally outrageous and disgusting is that some on the left will use call foul, yet turn a blind eye when its on their side, or its confided to them it happened and they do nothing.......

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I don't remember all this outrage when Weiner was under accusations from you guys, or when Bill was being accused, or etc etc.


Once again Democrat sexual misconduct is prosecuted. Republicans sexual misconduct... up for re-election.


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Paul Ryan and M McConnell say the reports of sexual misconduct are credible and Moore should step down. Only the extremely deplorable will back this POS.


Well, from someone whos had an innocent family member spend 2 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit, only to have the accuser recant and admit they lied, I think I will abide my golden rule when it comes to these things. Accusations mean nothing without evidence.

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I don't remember all this outrage when Weiner was under accusations from you guys, or when Bill was being accused, or etc etc.


Once again Democrat sexual misconduct is prosecuted. Republicans sexual misconduct... up for re-election.


Bill Clinton is still a frequent campaign trail speaker for the Democratic Psrty.

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