Thats not why they signed him mac .. your so full of crap ..
They lost Garcon and Jackson in FA ... their plan was for
Doctson/Pryor to man those spots and keep Crowder in the slot where he EXCELLED last year ...
Doctson played so poorly in TC they moved Crowder outside ...
TP has played so poorly now that Crowder is “healthy” again and Dotson is showing GLIMPSES ... they basically benched TP (whose been playing with a leg or foot injury all year) cause he STUNK SO BAD ...
I think both Hue and Gruden are good offensive minds. I just think that Washington has a few decent WRs and a couple of good TEs who get targets. I also think that Cousins and Pryor never developed any chemistry. That's probably on Pryor.
Believe me, I am not saying he is great. I'm just saying that he would have performed better here than he has in Washington and better than Britt has this year.
I do get that the FO apologists will never to admit to that paragraph and that is fine. However, I am going to stand by my opinion.
Redskins' Terrelle Pryor: Absent Wednesday by RotoWire Staff 5h ago • 1 min read UPDATE 5h ago
Pryor (undisclosed) wasn't present at the portion of Wednesday's practice open to the media, John Keim of ESPN.com reports. The impetus for Pryor's absence is unknown, but the Redskins can be expected to clarify whether an injury, personal issue or some other concern is to blame. After receiving at least four targets in each of the first six games of the season, he's experienced only four total across the last three outings, displaying his waning relevance in the league's ninth-ranked passing attack.
Redskins WR Terrelle Pryor apologizes to fans, teammates for mediocre start to season
Terrelle Pryor apologized to fans and teammates for his so far disappointing first season with the Redskins, while vowing to return to the form he exhibited with the Browns last year, his first as a full-time wide receiver.
In an Instgram post Friday night, Pryor wrote (via the Washington Post), “I owe to the fans and teammates a sorry for being inconsistent with a lot of stress I brought onto myself for the loss of focus.. not personal life but at work reasons. Ready to be the beast I know I am. Looking forward to Sunday. I’m use to the rock in my hand early n often. I have great teammates and understand it’s not realistic with the great talent we have. That’s something that’s tough and a ongoing battle in my own mind. And I’m ready to control that focus and get back to pinning my ears back and playing ferocious how I know how! I’m ready.”
Through six games, Pryor has 18 catches on 33 targets for 223 yards and one touchdown. Last season in Cleveland, he had 77 catches on 140 targets for 1,007 yards and four touchdowns.
Pryor has not had more than three catches since his six-catch performance in Week 1 against the Eagles, and Redskins coach Jay Gruden benched him this past Monday night during the team’s second meeting of the season with Philadelphia.
After Monday’s loss to Philly, Gruden made a point to say the Redskins selected Josh Doctson in the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft “to be the number one guy” but stressed the team has “faith” in all its receivers.
Thats not why they signed him mac .. your so full of crap ..
They lost Garcon and Jackson in FA ... their plan was for
Doctson/Pryor to man those spots and keep Crowder in the slot where he EXCELLED last year ...
Doctson played so poorly in TC they moved Crowder outside ...
TP has played so poorly now that Crowder is “healthy” again and Dotson is showing GLIMPSES ... they basically benched TP (whose been playing with a leg or foot injury all year) cause he STUNK SO BAD ...
Your the opposite of Purp ...
diam...from the article posted by Deputy, just above,
Quote:
After Monday’s loss to Philly, Gruden made a point to say the Redskins selected Josh Doctson in the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft “to be the number one guy” but stressed the team has “faith” in all its receivers.
Again, when the Redskins signed Pryor, they could not be sure Doctson's two achilles injuries would respond to therapy, so they signed TP, knowing if they had to chose between Doctson and Pryor...they would chose their own draft pick.
Pryor was signed as an insurance policy should Doctson's injuries keep him off the field. The Skins preferred plan was to play their own draft pick.
Tell us how much better the Browns have been without Pryor.
Why would Sashi try to get the Redskins to trade Pryor back to the Browns?
We won one game with Pryor last year...so it's not like he was some dynamo that won games for us. In any event, we are a much more talented team across the board than last year - even without Pryor - but Hue still can't find a way to win.
Sashi wanted Pryor prior to the start of free agency...so it's no surprise that he inquired about Pryor at the trade deadline. You like to 'forget' that Sashi offered Mr Insurance Policy more $$$ than any other team in the league. Pryor thought he deserved a better deal...turns out he didn't deserve a better deal.
The more you try and pin Pryor's leaving on the FO the sillier this debate gets. He was a fool to leave the Browns...financially, emotionally and developmentally. That act was Pryor's fault...not Sashi's.
In any event, we are a much more talented team across the board than last year - even without Pryor - but Hue still can't find a way to win.
To Hue's credit, I agree we got a lot more talented, but we also got a lot younger. Our quarterback, receivers and tight ends are extremely young, first or second year players, and it's undoubtedly had an impact on the production. Not to mention our RT and, for half the season, our LT. Not exactly an environment in which I expect a great deal of success.
I think we've added much more talent than anyone will give us credit for, and I think Hue has done an admirable job of getting that talent up to speed as quickly as possible.
That's why I'm highly, highly doubtful of the persistent rumors that this organization is being torn apart by fighting and hatred.
It's weird to me that guys like Ian Rapoport and Albert Breer report Jimmy Haslam is leaning towards adding a football czar to ensure better cohesion between the front office and coaching staff but ultimately keeping everyone together, yet the likes of Benjamin Allbright, JLC, MKC and Tony Grossi are reporting otherwise. Personally, I'm taking Rap and Breer over the misfits of [censored] twitter journalism.
I think Haslam wanted the roster overturned as quickly as possible, and has had to learn a hard lesson that it takes more than two years to completely rebuild a roster and develop the acquired young talent.
It's weird to me that guys like Ian Rapoport and Albert Breer report Jimmy Haslam is leaning towards adding a football czar to ensure better cohesion between the front office and coaching staff but ultimately keeping everyone together, yet the likes of Benjamin Allbright, JLC, MKC and Tony Grossi are reporting otherwise. Personally, I'm taking Rap and Breer over the misfits of [censored] twitter journalism.
BDU..if you could post the links to these stories, if would benefit all interested...could you post your links?
The Redskins drafted Josh Doctson in the first round of their 2016 draft but went down with an achilles injury early in the season and did not play in 2016.
The Redskins signed Pryor as an insurance policy should Doctson's achilles not be fully healed. Doctson appears to have recovered, thus the Skins choose to play him ahead of Pryor. The other WR position (slot) is manned by Crowder, a 2015 draft pick of the Skins.
Pryor might be starting on many rosters, but in DC, they are loaded with WRs and TEs. Pryor is now Doctson's backup and I doubt that changes unless he goes down with an injury.
No doubt, with Doctson's injury history, the Skins realize how quickly their WR situation could change and would rather have too many good WRs then too few.
In some respects, Pryor is saving his body for the next team to sign him. Age and punishment are two of the major factors that determine a WRs longevity in the NFL.
That's pure BS Is he saving his brain as well by not learning to run the correct routes? How about saving his hands by not catching the ball? Or maybe saving his sanity by playing so many head games on himself?
Washington just like everybody else in the NFL didn't see Pryor as a Number 1 wr on their team. Otherwise he would have had longer term offers for more money than he had.
The more you try and pin Pryor's leaving on the FO the sillier this debate gets. He was a fool to leave the Browns...financially, emotionally and developmentally. That act was Pryor's fault...not Sashi's.
This debate in not just about Pryor.
The Browns front office is not only in charge of finding the talent for the 53 man roster, they are in charge of "contract negotiations".
Since 2013, the following Browns were kicked to the curb by the Browns management team, with some of these players then signed by some of the NFL's best franchises.
It is interesting how some franchise judge the value of players and find the money to sign our free agents to a contract when the Browns management could not get it done.
Some of these Browns went on to help their new teams make the playoffs, win Championship games and ultimately, helping their new teams win Super Bowls. Individually, players that the Browns didn't believe were good enough to sign with the Browns, went on to earning Pro Bowl and All Pro awards..but they just weren't good enough to be resigned by the Browns...
Jimmy Haslam bought the team in 2012, then hired his own management team. Under Haslam, the franchise has declined to become the worst franchise in the NFL with the current management structure responsible for the worst season in the 69 year old franchise history.
So as you can see WILLIE, this debate is much more complex and serious than just Pryor.
Thats not why they signed him mac .. your so full of crap ..
They lost Garcon and Jackson in FA ... their plan was for
Doctson/Pryor to man those spots and keep Crowder in the slot where he EXCELLED last year ...
Doctson played so poorly in TC they moved Crowder outside ...
TP has played so poorly now that Crowder is “healthy” again and Dotson is showing GLIMPSES ... they basically benched TP (whose been playing with a leg or foot injury all year) cause he STUNK SO BAD ...
Your the opposite of Purp ...
diam...from the article posted by Deputy, just above,
Quote:
After Monday’s loss to Philly, Gruden made a point to say the Redskins selected Josh Doctson in the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft “to be the number one guy” but stressed the team has “faith” in all its receivers.
Again, when the Redskins signed Pryor, they could not be sure Doctson's two achilles injuries would respond to therapy, so they signed TP, knowing if they had to chose between Doctson and Pryor...they would chose their own draft pick.
Pryor was signed as an insurance policy should Doctson's injuries keep him off the field. The Skins preferred plan was to play their own draft pick.
I hardly read U and reply less ... over the last month or so I’ve broke that rule and read a smidge more of u but for some dumb ass reason i’ve felt compelled to reply to U ..
The above post shows why ...
THANKS LAMP ... i will now go back to my old ways and read u once in a blue moon and respond even less ...
Lamp reminded me of why thats a great way to go ...
There’s no reasoning with u mac just like there was NO WAY IN HELL Pryor was signed as an insurance policy ...
Doctson is 1 WR ... there’s 2 WR’s in basic sets .... Crowder was the best slot guy in football last year ... Wash’s base offense has 3 wides in it .... they let their top 2 WR’s walk in FA last year ...
I don’t need to read an article as I use SIMPLE LOGIC and COMMON SENSE ...
Like lamp said ... there’s no reasoning with u ...
Enjoy mac ... hopefully in a few years we can have some fun convo’s as were winning ...
BDU..if you could post the links to these stories, if would benefit all interested...could you post your links?
No problem, sorry.
Here is the original story from Rappaport that, "Changes are expected to come at the end of the season in some form or fashion. But at this point, they are not expected to involve Hue Jackson."
Three days later, Breer appeared on The Herd, saying, "I'm not saying they blow it up after this year. I think Jimmy Haslam's intention has been to give these guys at least three or four years to build it up, but if coaching and scouting isn't aligned in the right way, the answer will be to go in and bring in a football czar..." This is also the report that names Peyton Manning as the top of the list to be our Football Czar.
I know there is a more recent update to Rap's original story from him, but I'm having trouble finding it because it was a video, but I can't remember where it was from. I'll keep looking and update when I find it, but I'll quickly mention the others.
On the same day as the Breer report, La Canfora wrote this,
It is essentially a giant report that everyone hates everyone, nobody trusts anyone, we have no talent, etc.
Here is a report that quickly followed, also by JLC, that Jimmy G wasn't traded to the Browns because we're firing everyone and will target Caserio and McDaniels from New England to be our GM/HC. This is a tweet mentioning what JLC said, originally on radio, which I can't get because it won't play media outside the US.
Here is one of his original reports that the coaching staff and front office were "irate" with each other over Jimmy G because apparently the front office refuses to add talent.
And here is Allbright's apparent conversation with a member of the Browns coaching staff that says everyone is getting fired and Sashi Brown goes home early, etc.
As for MKC and Grossi, do I really need specific examples of their bombardment of negativity and belief it's all getting blown up? I think we can put that one in the common knowledge section.
I hope that's enough to emphasize the point - the heavy hitters seem to think this will all be kept together, but the bottom feeders think it's all getting blown up.
I think we're coming full circle to the "Haslem is cheap" narrative again. I'm surprised it took this long, honestly.
memp...you tell me why playoff caliber franchises seem to value Browns free agent players differently than Haslam's management team?
Please tell us why?...
If it had happened just once or twice, it would not be much of an issue. But, in the short span that Haslam has owned the franchise, it has happened enough times to know THE BROWNS HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM ON THE MANAGEMENT SIDE.
memp, please tell us how it is that the Browns management can misjudge the talent level of their own players, who became free agents?
Tell us how the Browns management undervalued their own free agents in terms of contract value...YET...other franchises were able to find the necessary funds to convince the Browns free agents to sign with them?
....NOT ONCE OR TWICE...but I listed 9 ex-Browns..almost enough players to man half a starting team.
The Browns have had the talent to win..they just can't bring upon themselves to spend the money to keep their own talent.
SPEAK UP, MEMP!...or anyone who questions the core issues being discussed in this thread.
memp...you tell me why playoff caliber franchises seem to value Browns free agent players differently than Haslam's management team?
Please tell us why?...
If it had happened just once or twice, it would not be much of an issue. But, in the short span that Haslam has owned the franchise, it has happened enough times to know THE BROWNS HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM ON THE MANAGEMENT SIDE.
memp, please tell us how it is that the Browns management can misjudge the talent level of their own players, who became free agents?
Tell us how the Browns management undervalued their own free agents in terms of contract value...YET...other franchises were able to find the necessary funds to convince the Browns free agents to sign with them?
....NOT ONCE OR TWICE...but I listed 9 ex-Browns..almost enough players to man half a starting team.
The Browns have had the talent to win..they just can't bring upon themselves to spend the money to keep their own talent.
SPEAK UP, MEMP!
I know this is for Memphis but I'd like to jump in on it.
Because we keep firing everyone. The new coaching staff/front office want their guys so players from the previous regime become an afterthought. Granted, I don't doubt the validity of questioning if a player fits the new scheme, but I think it is either mostly ignorance or arrogance.
All those guys were moved on from following regime changes. Every front office/coaching staff wants to stick with their players, and every new wave wants to cast them off, treat them as scapegoats and bring in their own fresh blood.
That's why you mention "Haslam's management team," right? Because there is no one front office or coaching staff wanting to move on, but seemingly an endless plethora of changes that have undervalued the existing players on the roster.
That's one of the biggest reasons a lot of fans desperately want continuity. So, for once, we actually stick with our players and let them develop.
That's pure BS Is he saving his brain as well by not learning to run the correct routes? How about saving his hands by not catching the ball? Or maybe saving his sanity by playing so many head games on himself?
I'm laughing so hard I have tears running down my leg!
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
The more you try and pin Pryor's leaving on the FO the sillier this debate gets. He was a fool to leave the Browns...financially, emotionally and developmentally. That act was Pryor's fault...not Sashi's.
This debate in not just about Pryor.
The Browns front office is not only in charge of finding the talent for the 53 man roster, they are in charge of "contract negotiations".
Since 2013, the following Browns were kicked to the curb by the Browns management team, with some of these players then signed by some of the NFL's best franchises.
It is interesting how some franchise judge the value of players and find the money to sign our free agents to a contract when the Browns management could not get it done.
Some of these Browns went on to help their new teams make the playoffs, win Championship games and ultimately, helping their new teams win Super Bowls. Individually, players that the Browns didn't believe were good enough to sign with the Browns, went on to earning Pro Bowl and All Pro awards..but they just weren't good enough to be resigned by the Browns...
Jimmy Haslam bought the team in 2012, then hired his own management team. Under Haslam, the franchise has declined to become the worst franchise in the NFL with the current management structure responsible for the worst season in the 69 year old franchise history.
So as you can see WILLIE, this debate is much more complex and serious than just Pryor.
Every single player you mentioned there - except for Mack and Schwartz - are simply JAGs. Mack wanted out and Schwartz stewed himself out of $$$.
If you want to be taken seriously, you must STOP including Pryor in ANY attempt to bash the FO.
Ward, Rubin and Sheard are no longer with the team they first went to when they left us. Gipson is so overrated by agenda-posters on this board that it's laughable. The guy had 2/3 of a good year one time. Benjamin? Travis "Safety" Benjamin? Not for the money he got from the Chargers.
JAGs...all of them...except for the two mentioned above.
JAGs...all of them...except for the two mentioned above.
Willie...with my military background, 'JAG' has meaning and is defined...JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL.
I doubt you are calling them the JAG I'm familiar with, so, if you could, explain your meaning or definition of 'JAGs'.
Now on to your post...the Browns have some serious issues within management that seem to show up time and again, resulting in a growing list of talented Browns players who are not retained by the Browns management...and the list grows every year.
You can pretend that all is well in our front office but as I attempted to show, the Browns had some outstanding talent...talent good enough to help their new team win the SUPER BOWL...but they were not good enough to be a CLEVELAND BROWN...
...any way you want to spin it, THAT IS A PROBLEM THE BROWNS MUST ADDRESS!
The Browns were unable to complete contracts with every player named, while some of the NFL's best franchises were able to find a way to sign the Browns free agents.
What seems to be routine and done on a regular basis by the NFL's best run franchises..is extremely difficult and nearly impossible task for the Browns franchise.
You can play the Sgt Schultz game, I SEE NOTHING...make every excuse you can think of, in an attempt to excuse the performance of the Browns management..but you cannot escape the Browns record.
The Browns are what their record says they are...
Until the Browns address what is wrong within management, winning on the field is going to be tough.
JAGs...all of them...except for the two mentioned above.
Willie...with my military background, 'JAG' has meaning and is defined...JUDGE ADVOCATE GENERAL.
I doubt you are calling them the JAG I'm familiar with, so, if you could, explain your meaning or definition of 'JAGs'.
Now on to your post...the Browns have some serious issues within management that seem to show up time and again, resulting in a growing list of talented Browns players who are not retained by the Browns management...and the list grows every year.
You can pretend that all is well in our front office but as I attempted to show, the Browns had some outstanding talent...talent good enough to help their new team win the SUPER BOWL...but they were not good enough to be a CLEVELAND BROWN...
...any way you want to spin it, THAT IS A PROBLEM THE BROWNS MUST ADDRESS!
The Browns were unable to complete contracts with every player named, while some of the NFL's best franchises were able to find a way to sign the Browns free agents.
What seems to be routine and done on a regular basis by the NFL's best run franchises..is extremely difficult and nearly impossible task for the Browns franchise.
You can play the Sgt Schultz game, I SEE NOTHING...make every excuse you can think of, in an attempt to excuse the performance of the Browns management..but you cannot escape the Browns record.
The Browns are what their record says they are...
Until the Browns address what is wrong within management, winning on the field is going to be tough.
JAG = Just a guy. We lose JAGs all the time.
The team created an environment that resulted in us being unable to retain Mack...and that is/was a problem that must be addressed.
However, the rest of the names you like to point out - over and over and over - consist of two guys whose agents were too greedy/stupid to understand their client's value and a bunch of JAGs.
Bang on the FO all you want about the QB misses...but remember that Hue's fingerprints are all over that too.
The FO retains the guys they think should be retained such as Collins, Kirksey, Bitonio and signed FAs to come here in Zeitler, Tretter and McCourty.
Just because the FO does something you would not do does not make them the problem.
How bout 3 Three ya know what I was told in the past is the usually norm for a new regime to Build their team. I cannot remember the One or Two year buildup ever being acclaimed as the way to do it.
I will wait till this year 3 is done. They planned on it. They have time it so they have made trades and even buying a 2nd rounder for 15mil...yeah Haslam is so cheap with his money.
But here we are and no matter which way the cap goes we will have more money than just about any team has to finish this with some key FA acquisitions plus add the year two in all lthe 2017 rookies who get better. Just like Ogbah, Schofield, Shelton and others have shown in their year twos.
Plus 5 rookies who should give us some IMPACT.
Color me stupid for giving these guys at LEAST ONE MORE YEAR before I would assess their worth. And when I say These guys I'm including the Coaching staff as well!
But watch I good number of posters will probably say in a 9-7 season. These Guys are 12-36 who would keep guys like this after 3 seasons. Hope I did my math correctly...that is 1-15, 3-13 and then 9-7.
jmho
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In answer to the question "what can the front office do to help"?
Unless you are a part of the team organization we get information second hand. That means we have to decide who to believe.
So I am not going by any speculation just what I see on the field.
I see no reason to fire the coaching staff. Hue Jackson can win when given a competitive team. Let Hue coach and to be truly involved in personnel decisions.
Looking at the team as it stands today. When you do that you have to look at the player decisions made. Meaning who was signed as free agents? Who could have been signed? Who was drafted? Who could have been drafted?
When those decisions are looked at in that light. Questions arise like what could the team have done better?
The results on the field should not be accepted like it was all part of the Plan. If that is the case then the Plan must be adjusted.
Looking from the outside in; I can not say if the current FO and the coaching staff can continue to work together.
On the surface it seems like there is room for both parties. However, it also looks like there is a need to have go between person. Someone to act as a bridge.
That person needs to be open to analytics but schooled in player evaluation. Someone with a scouting or player background that has experience with players competing at this level. Someone who can look at a player or prospect and know what they see and what is needed at that position.
It is up to Haslam to find that guy.
Is Peyton a candidate? He could be. But I am sure the person exists somewhere.
Would firing the front office or the coaching staff or firing both help?
That is doubtful to me unless it is at the point where they can not work together and are unable to achieve the goals that have set.
#1. Best thing Haslam can do is hire a well qualified GM candidate from a successful franchise..such as the Patriots (Nick Caserio) and allow him to take control of the front office and operate the franchise with a GM who comes from a football background.
Depodesta and Sashi have done a good job of accumulating picks and getting the Browns where we are today..the youngest team in the NFL that is loaded with opportunity to improve the franchise.
It is time to shift the plan away from a goal of accumulating picks for the future, to using the assets (draft picks) to add the best football talent available.
I found this video that does a good job of explaining where the franchise is at this moment...
If you look up in the video, while his kitchen ceiling is fine, the room he's making the video in has a drop ceiling. I can't take anyone seriously who has a drop ceiling.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
To Hue's credit, I agree we got a lot more talented, but we also got a lot younger. Our quarterback, receivers and tight ends are extremely young, first or second year players, and it's undoubtedly had an impact on the production. Not to mention our RT and, for half the season, our LT. Not exactly an environment in which I expect a great deal of success.
I don't know where to give credit. We were down by 7, Flattop hadn't done anything other than throw picks and fumble.
Maybe we should have run more? I would have. I wouldn't put my career in to the hands of Flattop on a cold, windy, snowy Cleveland November day.. We've see that dance before.
If this was Dancing with the Stars, Kizer would have been voted off.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Time for hapless Cleveland Browns to clean house again: Bill Livingston (photos)
Updated Nov 20, 9:01 AM; Posted Nov 20, 7:53 AM link
By Bill Livingston, The Plain Dealer blivingston@plaind.com CLEVELAND, Ohio - Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, the fellow said, creeps in its petty pace from day-to-day.
Or, in the case of the Browns, it creeps from predictable losses to near-certain defeats, from grim seasons to graveyard decades.
The Browns' disorganization
From owner Jimmy Haslam on down this franchise is an embarrassment.
Let's take a tour at the cockamamie stops along the way down:
Toxic personnel gurus (Joe Banner, Mike Lombardi); a twitchy-thumbed interfering general manager (Ray Farmer); and analytics nerds who think the franchise with the worst season but the most unused future draft picks is the most successful (Sashi Brown and John "Batter up" DePodesta, a baseball guy.) Coaches Rob Chudzinski, life-long Browns fan to no avail; "Blunt Force Trauma" Mike Pettine, bald guy; Hue Jackson, current incumbent and supposed Quarterback Whisperer, who in that role has apparently become a mime, yanking his top prospect in and out of the lineup. Quarterbacks such as Heisman has-beens RG3 and Johnny Manziel; local guy Brian Hoyer; Josh McCown, because they'd already tried his brother Luke years ago; guys named Thad, Cody, Kevin, Jason and Clipboard Jesus; and a guy named DeShone but, sadly, not Deshaun. A stadium at the last home game that on TV (there were few shots of the "crowd") looked perhaps 25 percent full. A winnable loss
Sunday gave the few fans who can still stand to watch a winnable game, against a warm-weather team, Jacksonville, playing in freezing wind chill, blowing snow and gusting gales.
The Jaguars did their part, showing up as overconfident as the talk of "hanging 40 (points) on them" by former Brown Tashuan Gipson indicated.
The game officials gave Cleveland two two-minute timeouts in the second half in which to plot their deviltry, 10 additional seconds on the clock after an in- or out-of-bounds decision was overturned, and extra life on an early whistle that negated a Jags' touchdown on a fumble return.
The Browns would have none of it, resolutely losing, 19-7.
The Browns' running backs carried the ball just 13 times while DeShone Kizer lost two strip-sack fumbles, the second recovered for a touchdown; threw two interceptions; and lobbed 'er up there 32 times in all, despite a well-deserved reputation for being able to hit the nail squarely on the thumb, accuracy-wise.
Confession
I have to own up to writing that Kizer was the best combination of size, mobility, smarts and arm strength to come to the Browns maybe since Otto Graham. It was a giddy estimation.
The problem with that was that Troy Aikman always says accuracy is the most important quality in quarterbacking, and Marty Schottenheimer called Bernie Kosar "the most accurate deep passer I ever saw."
They were the quarterbacks the last time my hometown team and the team where I live now were consistent contenders. Accuracy is paramount in the NFL.
For the record
All these changes have resulted in the most mortifying example of ineptness since the Detroit Lions went 0-16 in 2008 and the expansion Tampa Bay Buccaneers started 0-26 in their first two seasons in the 1970s.
The Browns' no-this-is-not-a-typo record is:
0-10 this season. 1-25 with Jackson. 4-43 since late in the 2014 season. The Browns are a franchise that's a national punch-line.
They are a team with a "kick me" sign on their players' backs.
They have a fan base whose loyalty has been betrayed by incompetence so pronounced as to resemble sheer stupidity. How can anyone let this clown carnival go on?
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