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I thought this was encouraging to see during the game:

the drops from our Wr is becoming laughable. Louis, Britt, Devalve .. everyone drops

yes, that's an encouraging chart ... thanks

Agreed. I was skeptical about how much our defense would improve, but I have to admit that they are better. They played a damn good game today!

That would've been awesome if he put "j/c" in front of his post. As it is, he didn't. Consequently, a casual reader would think I posted what he linked to.

And yeah, I'm a bit ticked off about the Browns.

Yeah, bad day. I admit it.

Browns had yet another possible W they gave away.

So sue me.

We're still 27th in league in points allowed per game.

They also lead the league in giveaways.

Those two are correlated.

Kizer was flat out awful today. He is a long, long, long term development option. Go get a QB in FA, draft one at #1 and sit Kizer for a while.

I wonder if we actually can sue the team for emotional damages?

I agree, that should be considered.

I'm not a Hue hater.. the only way I see that happening is enough good players go to bat with Haslam telling him that Hue is NOT the problem....

Then Haslam will have to make the decision, keep Hue and risk ticking off a whole bunch of fans (in the short term at least)... or get rid of Hue and risk ticking off a bunch of our better players and losing them.

I can’t see the players going to haslam and say they are the problem

I think at this point despite the need for continuity, no one outside looking in could blame haslam for cleaning house here. Tried something different t and it didn’t work

I pray Haslam ignores the dumb-ass fans who have been proven to wrong time and time again and he chooses to keep Hue.

Me 2.

It's so flipping obvious what we're missing offensively and defensively.

PLEASE Gordon, keep your head outta your ass and STAY CLEAN.

Gordon, Coleman and a Sutton/Ridley turns this entire offense around.

We need a FS to get Peppers closer to the LOS.

We need Wilson to pan out and we need TWO Corners.

OK First off we had NO PENALTIES!
First time in 55 years!
So we are showing discipline, though a couple of holding calls would probably have help Kiser... ;-)

We are the only team in the AFC North to even come close to beating the Jags.
Good job by the D for keeping us in there!

JT is TERRIBLY Missed! We need him for D Scheme Reads and line corrections.
Rookie QB missed many reads.
Kiser looked like a Rookie but remember this is his first time playing in that stadium in those conditions. In fact most of the team haven't so.... Wind got a couple of those throws.
BUT that's an excuse as a tighter spiral would have helped.

Still not sure if we'll be drafting a QB High.....

Garrett was a force!

It's all over.

Boycott the team until further notice, do not go to the stadium. Need to vote with our wallets. Everyone who follows the team is die hard but ownership takes us for granted it seems. Need to stop showing up...I did notice on TV that the stadium was pretty empty for the game.

What a sad state of affairs.

Step 1. Fire Sashi Brown and Paul DePodesta. Hire a football educated person that has talent experience. Maybe someone who's worked in the front office before. We don't need first timers.

Step 2. Force Hue Jackson to hire an OC. If he does not, fire him immediately. If he accepts an OC, look for someone hungry. I absolutely loved Shanny when he was here, thought he was smart and knew exactly what he was going. However, he was too smart and then left, probably what anyone would have done in his situation. Get an OC who conforms to what you want your offensive identify to be. DRAFT FOR THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Step 2a (Optional) Hire new head coach. Who do we want that conforms to our offensive identify. My identity would be a run first, ball possession offense, be conservative with passing most of the time. If you have someone great at QB its diff but if you have someone who is conservative, doesn't turn the ball over, you have a chance to win every game.

Step 3. If possible, keep Gregg Williams as DC, guy does a great job for what he's been given. Our defensive backs are not the greatest but the turn around from last year to this year is incredible for the entire defense. Keep this guy.

Step 4. Think about firing Chris Tabor. Seriously, the guy has been here forever, not sure exactly why. When our special teams were the best in the league we had Phil Dawson, Josh Cribbs, it wasn't him.

Step 5. Get rid of Crowell, I think this guy sucks and I'm not sure why he's still around. I'd love to run with Duke, and where the F is Dayes!!!!!!!!! That is a question someone should be asking Jackson now. This is a lost season, he should be playing.

There's so much to do, but that's the start of what I would do if I were running things. What a miserable experience we're in.

Damn proud of this. Williams has done a hell of a job.

Here's my hope:

We play Kizer the final 6 games and see what he's like with Gordon and Coleman.

1:55 left in the game, We're down by 6. Good field position, we throw to the endzone, ball batted down. Short pass to receiver, dropped, Kizer gets sacked fumbles the ball.. Game over.

Doesn't that about say it all.

You get what you pay for. Can't win Indy driving a broken down Ford.

I really don't want to debate if Hue is a good coach or not but he does need to go. The Raiders fired him after just one season because Hue wasn't able to instill discipline and the new GM wanted a fresh start.

A fresh start is definitely needed in Cleveland and that starts by firing a coach who is now 1-25 in two seasons.

Part of a draft report on Kizer

"Weaknesses... Gets stuck on primary read missing out on early openers around field. May not have eyes or compact release to spot and hit flashing targets. Can be too reliant upon arm strength over mechanics. Wants open throwing window rather than operating with early anticipation. Can improve in leading receivers and throwing stationary targets open. Too hesitant. Gets caught in pump fake vortex at times. Quick to drop his eyes and halt progressions when pocket warms up. Inconsistent decision-maker. Showed dreadful lapses in judgement that lead to interceptions. Too willing to make off-balanced heaves. Benched against Stanford. Had at least one interception in 15 of his 23 starts. Will take a sack despite having ample time to read and throw."

Sound familiar?

Came just as advertised huh?!

Any thoughts on who exactly should be replacing him?

LOL....yep.

It appears to be happening already.....

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Anthony Lima Retweeted Ted
Mentioned this on the air, we aren't even in December yet and portions of the stadium completely desolate and closed down. Truly depressing

Ted
@TedBrink11
Thanks for the available concessions, @Browns

My son drove up from Charlotte for the game .. If the game wasn't bad enough Vendors ran out of Hot chocolate an there was a 10 to 15 wait to try and buy coffee at the Stadium .. Son laughed ans said they can't even get that right !

We all know that, the big question is why did we need to throw the ball twice has much has we run it?


Run the ball and we would probably win the game, Kizer or John Doe...

By now we all know our Qb's stink, no point blaming the QB.

Because Jax was selling out to stop the run. Kizer stunk!

Yep.

Selling out to stop the run when we were passing 64% of the times?

I also got the feeling they were pressuring us very well to be so much committed to stopping our nonexistent run.

It was a bad game plan, IMHO.

We accomplished nothing,except and easy escape goat on Kizer. If Fournette was playing in orange and brown, we would probably win the game...

PS. To make things worst, JAX is the best pass D in the league

Sacrificial lamb then?

:-)

mmmm.... lamb ::drools::

For a Browns fan Easter is always much better than Xmas...

Wow.
A bit salty today?

I think he just forgot to type j/c before dropping that quote. It's actually some dude on Twitter.

"Fresh starts" is all CLE ever does.

It's a sad state of affairs what has become of this organization. To your point.....

Kevin Kleps
@KevinKleps
The Browns' last eight home games have produced the five lowest announced crowd figures since 1995. Sunday's was the worst in 22 years.



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I could tell.. I thought about flying up to the game from Atlanta, and I could get lower level 50 yard line tickets for $50-60 bucks a ticket. Any other team, those are going for 150-200+ easy.