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At the time the Redskins signed Pryor they knew that Doctson was still questionable due to achilles injuries to both legs.
Who knows what they told Pryor to get him to sign their incentive based contract offer, but as of today, with Doctson being healthy, [color:#33CC00]there is no reason for the Redskins to play Pryor. Below, the Redskins HC, Jay Gruden, laid out his priorities concerning the Skins WRs and playing time. [/color] After Monday’s loss to Philly, Gruden made a point to say the Redskins selected Josh Doctson in the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft “to be the number one guy” but stressed the team has “faith” in all its receivers. link Pryor is the Redskins [color:#33CC00]insurance policy should Doctson be injured and unable to play. I believe Gruden made it clear what the Redskins priorities were and are.[/color] So Pryor is not as well thought-of as the Skin's starters? 6-8 million is a lot to pay under those circumstances. I've lost track of the point you were trying to originally make, mac...
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Let's pretend, for the next 10 minutes, that the insurance policy angle has merit.
If so, then that's an extremely stupid move by Pryor's team to go to the Redskins on a prove it deal, not knowing Doctson's role when healthy (which seems rather shallow considering he is a first round pick) while already having multiple good recieving options with established rapport w/ Cousins. That would be horrible advising by Rosenhaus to take a one year deal for big money in 2018 if he was only an insurance policy.
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Let's pretend, for the next 10 minutes, that the insurance policy angle has merit.
If so, then that's an extremely stupid move by Pryor's team to go to the Redskins on a prove it deal, not knowing Doctson's role when healthy (which seems rather shallow considering he is a first round pick) while already having multiple good recieving options with established rapport w/ Cousins. That would be horrible advising by Rosenhaus to take a one year deal for big money in 2018 if he was only an insurance policy. I am a little confused by this, Memphis. Would you please clarify?
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The author could make up whatever spin he wants...I'm shocked they didn't trade him. They aren't even targeting him in close games, not a target. I thought it was a bad move. I'm thinking we offered a 6th or 7th. Still better than what they are getting out of him. Redskins have the worst Owner/FO if you ask me. They lucked into Cousins but are going to lose him.
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Are the Haslam's not getting a return on their investment? Come on, bro...........this isn't charity work. It's a business. The Browns have done a lot of players dirty. I would include Gipson in that group. He owes them absolutely nothing. He owes the Browns some gratitude for being in the position he is in today. He owes it to his Parents to show some class.
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Let's pretend, for the next 10 minutes, that the insurance policy angle has merit.
If so, then that's an extremely stupid move by Pryor's team to go to the Redskins on a prove it deal, not knowing Doctson's role when healthy (which seems rather shallow considering he is a first round pick) while already having multiple good recieving options with established rapport w/ Cousins. That would be horrible advising by Rosenhaus to take a one year deal for big money in 2018 if he was only an insurance policy. I am a little confused by this, Memphis. Would you please clarify? Cliffnotes version... Mac is saying Pryor was signed by the Redskins as an insurance policy. And if there is a healthy Doctson, he'd play over a healthy Pryor. Pryor and his agent should have known this. Memphis is saying that is the most absurd thing he's ever heard. Why would a player wanting to prove himself to earn that blockbuster contract in 2018 go to a team as an insurance policy with the chance he might not see the field if other players are healthy... Meanwhile, mac claims despite Pryor not being good enough for the redskins, the front office here made a mistake in letting him go... however, did the front office really "let him go," or did Pryor and his agent choose to not play here? And yes, it's slightly more complicated than that...
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Are the Haslam's not getting a return on their investment? Come on, bro...........this isn't charity work. It's a business. The Browns have done a lot of players dirty. I would include Gipson in that group. He owes them absolutely nothing. He owes the Browns some gratitude for being in the position he is in today. He owes it to his Parents to show some class. And there is no proof that the Browns have done any players "dirty."
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Britt is making 17 mill GAURANTEED ... i believe all of it is this year ..
Pryors total cost for they year is going to be 6 mill as he isn’t going to hit any incentives ...
Is Britt outplaying him by 11 mill this year???? ... Britt was only gauranteed 10.5 Million
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Based off that comment ... U LOVE LOSING ....
Grow up!!!!!! Based on that comment your wrong again 
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And there is no proof that the Browns have done any players "dirty." I believe you are correct.
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Let's pretend, for the next 10 minutes, that the insurance policy angle has merit.
If so, then that's an extremely stupid move by Pryor's team to go to the Redskins on a prove it deal, not knowing Doctson's role when healthy (which seems rather shallow considering he is a first round pick) while already having multiple good recieving options with established rapport w/ Cousins. That would be horrible advising by Rosenhaus to take a one year deal for big money in 2018 if he was only an insurance policy. memp...if you could, tell us how the Redskins presented the Doctson situation during the negotiations with Pryor.
Did the Redskins tell Pryor that Doctson was schedule to return at mid-season?
I could be that the medical staff believed Doctson's return to full contact would take longer than it did and his return is ahead of their expectations.
But, as the Redskins HC stated, they drafted Doctson to be their #1 wr..thus Pryor has become Doctson's backup. So why didn't the Redskins trade Pryor back to the Browns?
If you take the time to learn about Doctson's injury situation with both of his achilles, you might understand why the Redskins were not interested in dealing with Sashi Brown...
...Pryor is the Redskins insurance policy, should Doctson re-injury one or both of his achilles.
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Let's pretend, for the next 10 minutes, that the insurance policy angle has merit.
If so, then that's an extremely stupid move by Pryor's team to go to the Redskins on a prove it deal, not knowing Doctson's role when healthy (which seems rather shallow considering he is a first round pick) while already having multiple good recieving options with established rapport w/ Cousins. That would be horrible advising by Rosenhaus to take a one year deal for big money in 2018 if he was only an insurance policy. memp...if you could, tell us how the Redskins presented the Doctson situation during the negotiations with Pryor.
Did the Redskins tell Pryor that Doctson was schedule to return at mid-season?
I could be that the medical staff believed Doctson's return to full contact would take longer than it did and his return is ahead of their expectations.
But, as the Redskins HC stated, they drafted Doctson to be their #1 wr..thus Pryor has become Doctson's backup. So why didn't the Redskins trade Pryor back to the Browns?
If you take the time to learn about Doctson's injury situation with both of his achilles, you might understand why the Redskins were not interested in dealing with Sashi Brown...
...Pryor is the Redskins insurance policy, should Doctson re-injury one or both of his achilles.
Actually, mac, I think I understand what you're saying but I think you're wrong. I don't think Pryor is Doctson insurance. I don't think the redskins or Pryor or his agent ever discussed Doctson during contact negotiations other than Pryor would be a good compliment. I think the redskins plan was a one year deal in an attempt to maximize the redskins potential to get to the super bowl with cousins. I think the plan was to play Doctson, Pryor, and Crowder. The problem is that Pryor had underachieved and the redskins are actually using Ryan Grant, not Doctson, in place of Pryor. I think the redskins were wrong about Pryor as much as the Browns were wrong about Britt. I think it's that simple. Pryor isn't the great WR everyone thinks he is, but yes he had good stats here. I still don't think he's that great and needs more time to be a polished WR. It would have benefitted both Pryor and the Browns if he had stayed, but for the last time Pryor CHOSE to leave. You can't blame the front office. He thought he could do better than what any team was offering and he was wrong.
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Let's pretend, for the next 10 minutes, that the insurance policy angle has merit.
If so, then that's an extremely stupid move by Pryor's team to go to the Redskins on a prove it deal, not knowing Doctson's role when healthy (which seems rather shallow considering he is a first round pick) while already having multiple good recieving options with established rapport w/ Cousins. That would be horrible advising by Rosenhaus to take a one year deal for big money in 2018 if he was only an insurance policy. memp...if you could, tell us how the Redskins presented the Doctson situation during the negotiations with Pryor.
Did the Redskins tell Pryor that Doctson was schedule to return at mid-season?
I could be that the medical staff believed Doctson's return to full contact would take longer than it did and his return is ahead of their expectations.
But, as the Redskins HC stated, they drafted Doctson to be their #1 wr..thus Pryor has become Doctson's backup. So why didn't the Redskins trade Pryor back to the Browns?
If you take the time to learn about Doctson's injury situation with both of his achilles, you might understand why the Redskins were not interested in dealing with Sashi Brown...
...Pryor is the Redskins insurance policy, should Doctson re-injury one or both of his achilles.
Just when I think you can't twist this story anymore, you come up with this gem. Pryor's failure in Washington is on him, not the Redskin's FO misleading him, or Doctson returning earlier than expected. The fact is that his performance was so bad that he actually apologized to the fans. If he were playing at a competent level prior (no pun intended) to Doctson's return, he'd still be getting targets. Pryor's gamble was his own doing/undoing, no one elses. I don't know why the trade back didn't work out, and neither do you.
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You can't blame the front office. Well.........you can, but of course, you are going to get personally attacked by a handful of posters who defend the FO w/vigor on each and every move. Man you are a peach. Classic example of ignoring a well written and well structured post and misrepresenting the intent of a multi paragraph written post. But then we shouldn't expect anything less.
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Evidence of what I was talking about. Yes, you provide that evidence with every post.
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Not the kind of pre-game convo that we expect or want to read. Please, let's move on...
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Has Pryor even seen the field today?
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Has Pryor even seen the field today? Not sure - but that was the Redskins plan: Just have him as an insurance policy. You know, the guy that signed a 1 year deal for less per year than the Browns offered - a "prove it deal".........and he's nothing but an insurance policy. Way to go Pryor. If mac was right, you were dumb.
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Has Pryor even seen the field today? No stats for the game..
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Has Pryor even seen the field today? Not sure - but that was the Redskins plan: Just have him as an insurance policy. You know, the guy that signed a 1 year deal for less per year than the Browns offered - a "prove it deal".........and he's nothing but an insurance policy. Way to go Pryor. If mac was right, you were dumb. He was dumb.... I would have taken the 4 year deal and outplayed it. He could have had a new contract in two years.
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Somewhere the Browns' FO is at fault.
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Has Pryor even seen the field today? No stats for the game.. I saw on the bottom of the screen tickler that he was inactive
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Has Pryor even seen the field today? No stats for the game.. I saw on the bottom of the screen tickler that he was inactive Well, of course he was inactive. He signed a 1 year "prove it" deal to be an insurance policy. He, and his agent, didn't actually expect him to play, to "prove" it. Plus, he's saving wear and tear on his body. Our front office screwed up so terribly in offering him a 4 year deal worth more per year than he signed. Stupid front office - had he been here, he'd have played. And God knows actually PLAYING would lead to him.........uh, not getting renewed? Anyway, glad his knees, hands, ribs, etc are saving themselves from wear and tear so he can sign a life altering contract next year. He'll be fresh. With 1 year of actually playing a position he'd never played before.
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Somewhere the Browns' FO is at fault. Somewhere, the Brown's FO gets credit for not signing Pryor and signing Britt. Dude had a huge day today!!!!
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Somewhere the Browns' FO is at fault. Somewhere, the Brown's FO gets credit for not signing Pryor and signing Britt. Dude had a huge day today!!!! By not signing Pryor, do mean we should have offered more money than our original contract? You know, when no on else came to a long-term deal?
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Nope. Never said that. However, I do think that signing Britt is on the FO. Do you disagree? Let me guess...........you are about to make a personal insult towards me to deflect the conversation.
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Has Pryor even seen the field today? In all fairness to Pryor he was inactive due to a foot injury. One that could keep him out much longer than just yesterday.
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I do not know for sure what is on whom, but I do know one thing. the decision by Pryor and/or his representative has cost him millions of dollars. millions!! at this point turning down 4 yrs/32 million was a colossal blunder. I doubt they will see any kind of offer remotely close to that after the season.
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I'd like to see Pryor back in Cleveland.
Next year, I'm hoping to see: Gordon Coleman Pryor Rookie Treggs/Coates/Rookie
Bye bye Britt, Higgins, and Louis.
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An Injury of convenience???
Pryor is stating now that since week two where he states he initially injured his ankle and haven been able to cut on it...meanwhile he wasn't listed on any injury reports? So he hasn't been healing it. So he hasn't been out there and getting much reps of late. You figure something like that will heal.
I believe he has an ankle problem that he is getting checked out.
But sorry I ain't buying into that is why he season has been terrible so far.
But I'm sure he will stick with hit when he hits the FA market next season.
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An Injury of convenience???
Pryor is stating now that since week two where he states he initially injured his ankle and haven been able to cut on it...meanwhile he wasn't listed on any injury reports? So he hasn't been healing it. So he hasn't been out there and getting much reps of late. You figure something like that will heal.
I believe he has an ankle problem that he is getting checked out.
But sorry I ain't buying into that is why he season has been terrible so far.
But I'm sure he will stick with hit when he hits the FA market next season.
Of course he will play the injury card; he has nothing else going for him...
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I'd like to see Pryor back in Cleveland.
Next year, I'm hoping to see: Gordon Coleman Pryor Rookie Treggs/Coates/Rookie
Bye bye Britt, Higgins, and Louis. I'd be as content bringing him back - at a discounted rate - as I would be in walking away from him. In no way whatsoever would I offer him what was offered last offseason; he & his agent screwed the pooch on that one. If we have Coleman and Gordon, we have to ask ourselves which role(s) we still need filled and does Pryor fit one of them? He isn't a #1 WR here, he is a role player - so we have to have a need that he fits, otherwise it's a waste. I do think he could be a solid #2 to Gordon, and if Coleman can learn to run crisper routes, he could run in the slot. That just might be fun to watch! Aside from that, I'd say to just roll with Coleman as the #2 and let's find a Julian Edelman-type for our Slot like Belichick does... he & Brady makes star WR's with that position by looking for a particular type.
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Hes having it scoped toclean it up ... will get a timetable on his return after the scope
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As I said when he turned down our four year offer, and I called him stupid, and selfish at the time. TP you were an IDIOT. I caught hell from a lot of posters around here when I said that. I stood by my guns, and I believe I have been proven right again.
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As I said when he turned down our four year offer, and I called him stupid, and selfish at the time. TP you were an IDIOT. I caught hell from a lot of posters around here when I said that. I stood by my guns, and I believe I have been proven right again. U caught hell cause u were acting like an ass .... The man had confidence in himself and rolled the dice ... he obviously lost ... U act like the guys destitute or something ... poor fella only made 6 mill this year .... hope he can survive somehow ... u guys get nickels for bottle and can returns ... if so, start a collection for the poor guy ... SELLFISH MY ASS ..... U think anyone that ever wears are uni owes us their undying lotalty til the die they die ...  ...
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