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I just want to thank Hue Jackson for making me wait more than a frikin year to see the Browns win the first game of the season.
What a complete and total ..
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Another game...another loss. Marching towards trading out of the #1 pick in the draft! Hooray for Sashi and "The Plan"!
After 55 years, I'm walking away from this dumpster fire. Good luck to everyone who continues to hang on. You'll need it.
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Masterfully working the plan.
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On behalf of Hue ... YOUR WELCOME ... Let the BLAME GAME begin ...  ...
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Spanked by a better team. Our vaunted run D was gashed, Dalton had his ways with us, yet this was by far our best offensive performance, run and pass, with Kiser.
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Seems QB and RBs did fine today.
We moved the ball up and down the field all day long.
BUT we are completely inept in the redzone.
Get that fixed and this game would be a W.
Oh, and Defense needs to suck it up and get a stop sometimes. Our D got ran over all day long
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Agreed, Kizer made some nice plays.
Not sure what happened to the D. Figured out? Like the offense, I won't take one game as the rule but Lazar called a great game.
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If it were not for Kizer, this game would have looked much worse.
Gameball to Crowell today, too, and Duke, for his what,
2, or 3 touches on the afternoon.
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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All I can think, "That wasn't a flag on Peppers and we should have seen the Browns with a drive to level the score."
A dropped touchdown from Coleman, a missed FG from Gonzalez, two phantom calls leading to Bengals touchdowns (Wasn't PI on J-Mac, which led to the Kroft touchdown the following play. Wasn't roughing on Peppers, which led to the Mixon TD like two plays later.) and two dropped ints from BBC, the second one would have damn well likely been a pick six.
It's frustrating. This is another game that ultimately came down to a handful of inconsistent plays. We had the win, but didn't take it.
I hate knowing that a young roster making these mistakes is going to lead to an overturn. Every time an overturn has happened, we've lost talent. I fear this time we'll probably see the likes of Ogbah, BBC, Kizer and Collins all f$*#ed off for the new regime's guys just because a bunch of first and second year players couldn't close.
The refs screwed us once again. That was a [censored] call and anyone with functioning eyes could see it.
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Bengals scored 30+ on the Browns, 6 of the last 7 times.
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Agreed, Kizer made some nice plays.
Not sure what happened to the D. Figured out? Like the offense, I won't take one game as the rule but Lazar called a great game. Lazar owned Williams today.
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Kizer played his best game all year Brought the team within 7 and defense failed to get off the field after that He no turnovers today Coleman dropped a easy TD
Crowell ran really good and hard The WRS sucked as usual
Why is Peppers jawing when your down by 7 ?
Coleman was a penalty machine today Drago got abused by Lawson all day
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The Coleman drop was big, as was the touch football call on Peppers.
Kizer's pass literally hit him in the chin.
If you concentrate on negatives you will go crazy.
Hey, we even had Kessler out there and Gonzalez punting.
Margins are fine. I'm starting to think Kizer might be something. Or maybe not. Glass half full.
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My Christmas present will therefore be a win next week  And some beer.
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That dropped TD pass slayed me
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Today was the exact opposite of last week ...
this week it was really hard to watch the D and a lot of fun to watch the O .. until we got in the red zone ... *L* ...
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90% of the time we started in the red zone, the very next play was negative and pushed us out of the red zone. Pathetic.
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Bright side we get Gordon back next week
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Another winnable game.
My post game thoughts: we need the Flash back ASAP
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Today was the exact opposite of last week ...
this week it was really hard to watch the D and a lot of fun to watch the O .. until we got in the red zone ... *L* ... I guess I missed the fun part of the O.
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i just don't know how we can win a game
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Didn't expect to win or be competitive, was not disappointed. Will be nice to see if Gordon can spark this team next week.
When this season is over I'm at the point that I just don't care what they do anymore. Keep them, fire them, draft a QB, trade down, yada yada... Don't care until they start winning. Not spending a dime on anything Browns related until then.
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Hue Jackson is a really bad coach. The fact they didn't get a chance at a TD at the end of the half is really grating.
Unfortunately, it appears he still has the ear of the owner, with all the smiling and great convo with McCarron at the 50 this past year. Looks like they will be cursed to suffer another year after this year of Hue Jackson and his bluster.
you had a good run Hank.
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Hugh Jackson..lol..LOSER!
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What is Peppers supposed to do. Let him catch the ball and push him out of bounds? What a crap call. He hit him full shoulder in the chest. What a bunch of crap. Better get those flag belts out goodell, as you're ruining the game.
Maybe Gordon can show these kids how to catch. Anyone think Britt is trying to keep his job? 'Bout damn time.
Anyone that said we need to get rid of Joe Thomas really has no business grading the line. The left side has been hurting since JT went down.
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Don't care until they start winning. Not spending a dime on anything Browns related until then. This is EXCELLENT advice for everyone out there!
After 55 years, I'm walking away from this dumpster fire. Good luck to everyone who continues to hang on. You'll need it.
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Kizer played a good game today. He is starting to show some touch. He threw some nice passes on the money today.
Crow had a nice game. Although, I think close to the goal, Duke is money.
Williams defense lost this game, IMO. Forget the missed redzone opportunities, and Colemen's dropped TD. This defensive scheme is killing us. Five scores on five drives? This deep safety crap is killing us. two yard runs turn into big gains once the ball carrier crosses the LOS.
The bad call on Peppers took away a chance to win.
RIP, Jim
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The blizzard outside my window provided more entertainment than this entire Browns football season.
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That dropped TD pass slayed me That sucked.  It was right there, for the taking.
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The D is showing the signs of being out there way too much this season not to mention we've lost some good D players to injury. We still need some more players on D, it's not a finished product, but losing JC and EO really hurts.
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Two plays that sum up the season... Coleman with a perfect pass from Kizer drops a sure touchdown.... and peppers makes a perfect hit only to get flagged that leads to a bengal touchdown...
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The season highlight reel..Hugh Jackson talks about how winning is everything...you can't make this stuff up..
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Kick it early and often. Gonzo's toe versus whatever happens to Hue's sense in the red zone. His IQ must bottom out or clench. One lame, no way call; one lame bad pass/ drop; mix in at least one stoopid penalty, another poor call and we have a FG try. We miss these at times.
Some teams go after TD beyond the 20 out to 35 yards. The closer we get, the lousier the results.
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They consistently draft garbage..for 30 years in a row..not one play maker..not one!
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They consistently draft garbage..for 30 years in a row..not one play maker..not one! 
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Don't care until they start winning. Not spending a dime on anything Browns related until then. This is EXCELLENT advice for everyone out there! Doesn't work, been following that since 2008, people will still buy you Browns items for Christmas. And they make more money off of TV contracts and people buying advertised products. The Browns were appraised at more than 1.8 billion, remember how much they bought it for? Anybody else nearly double your fortune since 2011?
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Crossed Cleveland gear off my list. Nothing interested me much with the new stuff. Marketing doesn't seem to "get" fans my age. Harder to watch each week.
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