DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns HC Hue Jackson Wants More Say In Personnel Matters Moving Forward

I've been suffering since they named him head coach. I was positive he was going to be really bad for us but I didn't know it would be to this extent. It was a very sad dark day when they named him head coach because I knew what the good fans were going to go through. It's been torturous dread for a long long long time now!!!

The only thing worse than the Browns in Cleveland sports are the Media talking heads ! Sports reporting in Cleveland sucks .

No he doesn't. People just get upset when they hear something that doesn't fit into what they want to believe.

Lame comment.

Nobody is upset. It's an observation based on Mike Silver's report. The reporter embedded with Hue during the draft that reported the opposite..

I do not have an agenda nor a neat little compartment of beliefs that I need to fit beliefs in to.

Mmmmm, hmmmmmm.

j/c:


https://twitter.com/KeithBritton86/status/937799401426341893

I am not sure if he will be DC or HC next year but I am sure it will be in a Bengals hat.

I used to be in the Hue needs to be HC or OC but not both camp. But after I looked at his play calling these last 4 games, Hue is not the problem!! How about execution is the problem. How about Kizer's accuracy is a problem. How about the best WR the Browns have just CAME OUT OF REHAB!!.. The team is fighting hard and that looks good for someone with a 1-27 record. But getting weapons for Hue to coach is a bigger problem.

I agree. And the geniuses on this board want Hue fired. He'll go to the Bengals and kick our ass for years and those same people will be saying how much they liked Hue when he was here.

he would go and have Dalton looking like an elite QB again.

Yep, and who in the hell is going to be our coach? McAdoo? LMAO

Or, maybe we can get Tony LaRusso out of retirement.

Mangini may be free...

The question is, do you want Hue kicking our ass working for another team or working for our team? The result seems to be the same.

Vers,
Browns fans want to see results so bad, even when the front office TELLS THEM they are tearing the team down, they want an 8 win team, which BTW, was not in the plans these first two years.

The first thing Haslam should have done when Sashi/Depodesta said we are tearing the team down was WHY do you have to do that? That approach was really not necessary to rebuild the team. Once the FO started missing on QBs, then Haslam SHOULD restructure the FO. Sashi can be business ops, but not picking players. Depodesta can work WITH the football GM and have some input. Yes, Hue gets some say! He is the coach.

Now, Hue has had to learn that the QB that he has is a 21 year old rookie that needs more seasoning. So Hue learned that he cannot throw too much at Kizer because he cannot process that and execute the plays. Keep it simple for Kizer. And even that is hard because of the lack of WR talent, Kizer accuracy and running game.

So after this season, I would keep Hue but put more of a football structure in place. The play calling is has improved once Hue figured out what Kizer can do at this point.

No, the structure of other teams is working and they are winning. Our structure takes so much more time, and that depends on how many draft picks they get right, and the time it takes to develop them.

Do you really believe that Hue is at fault for our record? Do you really believe this team has the talent to win now?

Just like DogNDC just said..........the FO tore this team down. Yet, that's Hue's fault?

Look, I am willing to give the FO time. I didn't like the plan, but it's our plan, so I say stick w/it. However, firing Hue will not help this team grow at all. In fact, it will be yet another setback.

A new system. New favorites. New philosophies. New practice habits. The players really respect and like Hue. If the Browns fire Hue, we'll hear how the new guy needs "time" to implement his system, which buys the FO even more time.

The madness never ends. We need to stick w/the plan and the people we chose to implement it!

Do I really believe it? Is he not the head coach? He owns a 1 - 27 record. Yes I believe it.

I want to make sure I completely understand where you are coming from. I also want other people to understand where you are coming from.

Are you saying that Hue is more responsible for our 1 and 27 record than the FO?

Tulsa,
Name the team that has done a complete rebuild of their roster like the Browns have done? And tell me the team that has filled its team with draft picks for 90% of the team?? OK, I will give you an easy one, tell me the team that has done a rebuild with NO decent QB? OR just this year got a decent o-line?? !-27 sounds about right

Now where in my post did I mention the front office?

You didn't. That is why I was asking for clarification.

Why would you do that?

Because you clearly assigned blame to Hue for the 1 and 27 record.

I think that the FO is more responsible for the record than the coaching staff.

I would like to know where you stand on this issue. Why are you dodging the question?

Okay, what you feel is your responsibility. What I feel is not exactly the same.

I think Hue Jackson is trying to make himself look better than the front office in any way possible.

There is only one thing the I want to know about Hue.

Did he or did he not want Carson Wentz befiore the 2016 draft.

Honest answer will determine his future.

LOL.............Other than a handful of posters on this board, I don't think anyone needs Hue to "try" to look better than the FO to know that Hue is better than the FO.

Mike Silver, who literally calls himself Hue's brother from another mother, said this on the day after the 2016 draft:





http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-with-no-1-pick

https://twitter.com/KeithBritton86/status/937799401426341893

If we don't fire him, can he quit?

Between the Bengals stuff and running a secret mutiny in the Daily Papers, Hue needs to go. I hope he enjoys Kentucky.

The real question is how has he not been fired at this point? The guy is a complete and utter joke. You win one game and that's your resume?

It is absolutely mind boggling, get this guy out of Cleveland immediately! He is not good for the team, city, or fans. For those that think he should stay, I just don't get it. May seem brash, I see no reason to keep him.

Yes, and Super Yes.



We all saw it. He was the HC while it was going on. Do you think he was in position to stop it? or at least put up a fight, or voice an objection?
How does anyone know to what level he was on board with any "tear down" or with any of the major team decisions, unless they know Hue or the team, except what's been public.




I'd like to see proof, of what this team can do without Hue, with another, without other major changes to the plan, but that's probably impossible.

I'm getting to the same place. I'm done with Hue Jackson.

j/c:

Man, our fans are so freaking dumb.

It never ceases to amaze me how so many people can be wrong so many times.

We are 1-27. To claim any side has done a good job is dumb. Or even an average job.

This is historically bad. They all suck. They could fire everyone and I would lose 0 sleep.

I don't see how this post accomplishes anything. Why even make such a comment when in fact you are probably just as guilty of being wrong and dumb.

Back to Hue. If he makes it out of this season still on the team, I would give him the first pick. He is called a QB whisperer. He was brought here to help find a QB. Ok, he gets the shot. He gets whoever he wants with our 1st pick.

Rosen, Mayfield, Rudolph, Darnold, Jackson...make the call, then go out and win some games.

With 3 of the next 4 picks I dedicate one to the D and the others to add players to help the new QB. A new receiver, maybe a back, maybe grab the LT from ND as Joe Thomas insurance with the 2nd 1st rounder. Joe isn't going to play 5 more years and we would have that kid on a 5 year deal.

In FA, let Williams give us a few targeted players, then we go all out to sign them.

Also, this might be a year we don't accumulate future picks and actually move up? If the Houston pick is high enough and we don't have to drop too far, maybe trade down there...say from 5 to 10 or something like that. We could probably add a 1st for next year and another 2nd and 4th this year.

I do want to trade up some. It would be great if we ended up with 3 first round selections.