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Only McShay has him going late 1st all the others have him late 3rd early 4th ...


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Just a quick search...

I don't know the validity of these...

Mayfield 11th

Mayfield 5th

Mayfield 9th

Mayfield 2nd

Mayfield 9th


I think after the season plays out and if Oklahoma wins the title Mayfield will be mocked as high as 1. But he'll definitely be top 5.

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
I would let Kizer battle with the other 2 rookies and bring in a Vet to help the 2 left standing ... thumbsup


I sort of like the theory, but since FA happens before the draft, are you just looking to sign the best of who's left, and not go after an Alex Smith/Case Keenum type player? I wonder if McCown will be available.


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Your score is: 21083 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6 (CHI): Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 9 (DEN): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 2 Pick 4: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 8 (CINN): Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9 (DEN): Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10 (NYJ): Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Cameron Smith, ILB, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 12 (OAK): Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 4 Pick 27: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Anthony Winbush, OLB, Ball State (A-)

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Originally Posted By: PastorMarc
I would let Kizer battle with the other 2 rookies and bring in a Vet to help the 2 left standing ... thumbsup


Wanna make a wager on the top 5 pick part?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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I would let Kizer battle with the other 2 rookies and bring in a Vet to help the 2 left standing ... thumbsup


Wanna make a wager on the top 5 pick part?


I don't gamble ... tsktsk


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I think the Mock sites algorithms are wacked.


Welcome back, Joe, we missed you!
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Originally Posted By: clwb419
Your score is: 21083 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6 (CHI): Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 9 (DEN): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 2 Pick 4: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 8 (CINN): Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9 (DEN): Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10 (NYJ): Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Cameron Smith, ILB, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 12 (OAK): Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 4 Pick 27: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Anthony Winbush, OLB, Ball State (A-)


Damn, put those Top 6 in a permanent sig.

That's INSANE.

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I think the Mock sites algorithms are wacked.


It's December. It's expected.

Just unfortunate we are in December, and already doing mocks.

I've always said it.. The off season is the best time of year for Browns fans.


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Originally Posted By: clwb419
Your score is: 21083 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6 (CHI): Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 9 (DEN): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 2 Pick 4: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 8 (CINN): Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9 (DEN): Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10 (NYJ): Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Cameron Smith, ILB, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 12 (OAK): Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 4 Pick 27: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Anthony Winbush, OLB, Ball State (A-)


Dude, do you really think Josh Rosen will last until pick 9? Lets use the 1st pick on our QB and quit screwing around.

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if we do anything other than pick a QB #1 overall fire Dorsey and keep firing idiot GM's until we find one thats not dumb. I don't there's even the slightest chance we aren't picking a QB at #1 overall


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Accepted this trade:

Cincinnati
Round 1 Pick 1 (1)
Round 1 Pick 10 (10)
Round 2 Pick 10 (42)
Round 4 Pick 10 (106)

Reason assuming that Rosen agents makes it clear he doesn't want him to be a Brown and that Darnold goes back to school

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
Round 1 Pick 10 (CINN): Harold Landry, OLB/DE, Boston College (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (A)
Round 2 Pick 4: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 2 Pick 10 (CINN): Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 10 (CINN): Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (A)
Round 4 Pick 29: Ike Boettger, OT, Iowa (B)
Round 5 Pick 1: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (A-)
Round 5 Pick 25: David Bright, OT, Stanford (B-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Dominick Sanders, FS, Georgia (D+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (B+)

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Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (B)
Round 2 Pick 32: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Isaiah Oliver, CB, Colorado (B)
Round 4 Pick 1: Deontay Burnett, WR, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 29: Kerryon Johnson, RB, Auburn (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Ike Boettger, OT, Iowa (A-)
Round 5 Pick 25: Cortez Broughton, DT, Cincinnati (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Isaiah Prince, OT, Ohio State (A-)
Round 7 Pick 1: Myles Gaskin, RB, Washington (A)


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Originally Posted By: Dawg Duty
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Your score is: 21083 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6 (CHI): Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 9 (DEN): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (A)
Round 2 Pick 4: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (B+)
Round 2 Pick 32: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 3 Pick 8 (CINN): Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 9 (DEN): Frank Ragnow, C/OG, Arkansas (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10 (NYJ): Lowell Lotulelei, DT, Utah (A+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Cameron Smith, ILB, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 12 (OAK): Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A)
Round 4 Pick 27: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Anthony Winbush, OLB, Ball State (A-)


Dude, do you really think Josh Rosen will last until pick 9? Lets use the 1st pick on our QB and quit screwing around.


Nope, but he was with this draft (https://first-pick.com/Default.aspx).

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Why waste a pick on QB who doesn't want to be here....and he's already had concussion and injury problems IN COLLEGE....please pass on the guy with the pacifier in his mouth....GO Browns!!!!


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Originally Posted By: hitt
Why waste a pick on QB who doesn't want to be here....and he's already had concussion and injury problems IN COLLEGE....please pass on the guy with the pacifier in his mouth....GO Browns!!!!


This was done before he said that.

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Originally Posted By: clwb419
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Why waste a pick on QB who doesn't want to be here....and he's already had concussion and injury problems IN COLLEGE....please pass on the guy with the pacifier in his mouth....GO Browns!!!!


This was done before he said that.


Well there's not a quote anywhere that confirms he ever said that.


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He never explicitly said he doesn't want to play for Cleveland. He said he'd rather get picked later by a better team, which implied that he doesn't want to play for Cleveland.


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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
He never explicitly said he doesn't want to play for Cleveland. He said he'd rather get picked later by a better team, which implied that he doesn't want to play for Cleveland.


Who wants to mortgage their career on an organization like the Browns? If anyone says they do, then they should put their money where their mouth is, quit their job and go work for whichever company is rated the worst by the Better Business Beruea. Tell me how well that'll work out for them.

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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
He never explicitly said he doesn't want to play for Cleveland. He said he'd rather get picked later by a better team, which implied that he doesn't want to play for Cleveland.


He didn't say that either. Here's what he said:

Quote:
"I'd rather be a lower pick at the right team than a higher one at the wrong team,'' Rosen said Saturday at the Cactus Bowl media day as the Bruins prepared to play Tuesday in the Cactus Bowl tonight against Kansas State, per Josh Weinfuss of espn.com.

The answer came in response to a question about whether he feels strongly about playing for certain teams, but not specifically about the Browns.

"I think the teams know more than I do in the sense of where I'd best fit," he said. "I might be a bit of a unique personality, so hopefully they can pick me a part and if a team really feels that I'm their guy, hopefully they'll go and get me.


He was talking about going to the team that was the best fit. There's nothing wrong with saying that, particularly in light of a direct question. Everyone is making way too much out of this off the cuff answer to a loaded media question designed to shart-stir, IMHO.


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They think putting words in peoples mouths will help them make their argument for someone else.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
Originally Posted By: clwb419
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Why waste a pick on QB who doesn't want to be here....and he's already had concussion and injury problems IN COLLEGE....please pass on the guy with the pacifier in his mouth....GO Browns!!!!


This was done before he said that.


Well there's not a quote anywhere that confirms he ever said that.


Wonder how many times more you'll need to point this out between now and the draft.

Oh ... a reminder that Baker Mayfield has no off-field issues. In case you forgot. smile

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Here is my latest:

Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10 (OAK): Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 4: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 4 (HOU): Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 4 (HOU): Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 10 (OAK): Josh Adams, RB, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 5 Pick 24: Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Micah Kiser, ILB, Virginia (A)


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That's fair Pit, I was just replying...I should have said "This was done before it was rumored he said that." or something like that tongue

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Here is my latest:

Round 1 Pick 1: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10 (OAK): Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 4: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 4 (HOU): Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 4 (HOU): Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 10 (OAK): Josh Adams, RB, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 5 Pick 24: Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Micah Kiser, ILB, Virginia (A)



I traded our 33rd pick and our 2020 1st rd. pick to move up to #10


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I just ran another, these things kinda make me laugh. I want to see the draft of the person who got 30k points.

Your score is: 22042 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (DEN): Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6 (NYJ): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 1 Pick 14 (G.B.): Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State (A-)
Round 1 Pick 26 (LAR): Roquan Smith, ILB, Georgia (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Billy Price, C/OG, Ohio State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30: Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 14 (G.B.): Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Greg Gaines, DT, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 28: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Troy Fumagalli, TE, Wisconsin (A)
Round 5 Pick 24: JaVon Rolland-Jones, OLB, Arkansas State (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: David Bright, OT, Stanford (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Mike Weber, RB, Ohio State (A+)

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Your score is: 20289 (GRADE: A-) 

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 6 (NYJ): Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 1: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 6 (NYJ): James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 30: Hercules Mataafa, OLB, Washington State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Donte Jackson, CB, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 6 (NYJ): Marcus Allen, FS, Penn State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 28: Matt Linehan, QB, Idaho (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia (A)
Round 5 Pick 24: JaVon Rolland-Jones, OLB, Arkansas State (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: David Bright, OT, Stanford (A-)
Round 7 Pick 1: Cody OConnell, OG, Washington State (A)

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Don't really care much for score at this point -

Your score is: 17329 (GRADE: B-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3 (IND): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 22 (BUF): James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (B)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (B)
Round 2 Pick 4: Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Josh Adams, RB, Notre Dame (B-)
Round 4 Pick 28: Tyrell Crosby, OT, Oregon (A-)
Round 5 Pick 24: B.J. Hill, DT, North Carolina State (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ken Webster, CB, Mississippi (B-)
Round 7 Pick 1: Anthony Winbush, OLB, Ball State (B+)

Really wanted Malik Jefferson at 2.4 but he went at 2.3, d'oh! I think he'd really help our LBs, coverage wise.

I still feel we need another option at DE so will have to read around and watch some film for a mid-round upgrade.

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I saw one on the Browns Wire predicting we take Conner Williams, LT (TX) at #4. I haven't watched any Longhorns football...is he that much better than Orlando Brown?

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I saw one on the Browns Wire predicting we take Conner Williams, LT (TX) at #4. I haven't watched any Longhorns football...is he that much better than Orlando Brown?


Last year, absolutely. This year, he stunk up the field. He'll be an interesting prospect this year.

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Ok I took Darnold over Rosen because we will get a vet and I believe he can set and has a higher ceiling than Rosen, @ #4 Saquan and Minka were both Gone so I traded down to #7 plus picked up TB's 2nd and 3rd also, I went with what I thought was the BPA @ 7 Derwin James and he also fills a huge need. I then traded our 2nd rd. pick #30 and our 2020 1st to GB and selected the Best WR in this draft Calvin Ridley. I also traded our 2nd 4th along with our 6th and 7th to move up 11 spots and take TE Mike Gesicki out of Penn State making our TE room one of the Best (Njoku, Devalve and Gesicki).

Round 1 Pick 1: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California (A)
Round 1 Pick 7 (T.B.): Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A)
Round 1 Pick 14 (G.B.): Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Carlton Davis, CB, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Bryce Love, RB, Stanford (A-)
Round 2 Pick 7 (T.B.): James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Dorance Armstrong Jr., DE/OLB, Kansas (A-)
Round 3 Pick 7 (T.B.): Jamarco Jones, OT, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 17 (LAC): Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A)
Round 5 Pick 1: Sony Michel, RB, Georgia (B+)
Round 5 Pick 24: Sean Welsh, C, Iowa (A-)


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No trades, decided to take Barkley over Fitzpatrick at #4, then just took names we've talked about where they looked right.

Your score is: 21907 (GRADE: A)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 2 Pick 3: Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30: Justin Reid, FS, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Simmie Cobbs Jr., WR, Indiana (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Cameron Smith, ILB, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 24: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 5 Pick 22: JK Scott, P, Alabama (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: David Bright, OT, Stanford (A)
Round 7 Pick 1: Dimitri Flowers, FB, Oklahoma (A+)


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Pick 1 - Sam Donald
Pick 4 - Josh Rosen
Pick 1 (Round 2) Lamar Jackson

And a few later round qbs...maybe then we solve our most glaring issue since Tim Couch didn't have an offensive line.


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Round 1 Pick 1: Sam Darnold, QB, Southern California (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 1 Pick 15 (ARI): Derwin James, SS/FS, Florida State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 4 (IND): Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (A-)
Round 2 Pick 8 (DEN): Bryce Love, RB, Stanford (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Allen Lazard, WR, Iowa State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 11 (OAK): Braden Smith, OT/OG, Auburn (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 4 Pick 4 (IND): Mike Gesicki, TE, Penn State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 10 (OAK): Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 1: Jordan Thomas, CB, Oklahoma (A-)
Round 5 Pick 22: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (A)


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'2018 NFL Mock Draft: All 12 picks for Cleveland Browns'

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Posted January 12, 2018 at 03:45 PM | Updated January 12, 2018 at 04:44 PM

By Chris Fedor, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns have put the finishing touches on their new, rebuilt front office over the past few days. Now it's time to go to work.

With a treasure trove of draft picks and a plethora of cap space available, this 2018 off-season is one of the most important in recent memory. It's the off-season former executive Sashi Brown and owner Jimmy Haslam have been pointing to since constructing a long-term rebuilding plan.

The 2018 NFL Draft is months away. There's lots of time for things to change. Players have individual workouts, the scouting combine and other ways to showcase their skills. There will be "risers" and "fallers" throughout the process and the cloudy quarterback picture might start to clear up eventually.

But this All-Browns Mock Draft is a look at what they can get done with 12 picks, looking to fill needs.

The projections for this exercise were made using fanspeak.com's 2018 NFL Mock Draft simulator along with Matt Miller's Big Board from Bleacher Report, which was last updated on Jan. 10. To make it as realistic as possible, keeping great players from being available in odd places, I set the algorithm to "difficult," trying to make the picks much tighter and the challenge more formidable.

Round 1, Pick No. 1
Josh Rosen, quarterback, UCLA

This should be Baker Mayfield, who is the best QB prospect in the draft. But it's hard to envision a new general manager -- even one with John Dorsey's league wide reputation -- pulling the trigger on an undersized signal caller who goes into the exception category. The Browns opt for Rosen instead, perhaps even to swap with the New York Giants or Denver Broncos so Cleveland can move back for Mayfield. Rosen needs less polishing than USC's Sam Darnold, who has only been playing quarterback for about three years after switching from linebacker in high school.


Round 1, Pick No. 4
Minkah Fitzpatrick, defensive back, Alabama

Cornerback? Safety? How about defensive cornerstone. That's what Fitzpatrick turned into while at Alabama and there's no reason to think he can't make the same impact at the next level.

If the Browns can't figure out how to best maximize Fitzpatrick then there are even more problems with the coaching staff than it seems. With Fitzpatrick in the mix, the Browns will no longer need to play 2017 first rounder Jabrill Peppers 35 yards away from the line of scrimmage, helping two defensive back spots with one selection.


Round 2, Pick No. 33
Isaiah Oliver, cornerback, Colorado

While the Browns morphed into one of the league's best run defenses, they ranked bottom half against the pass. Jason McCourty, one of the team's best players this past season, will be 31 when the 2018 campaign begins. Jamar Taylor isn't an NFL-caliber starter. If Dorsey doesn't attack this spot in free agency, Oliver would be a nice addition. Tall, long and speedy, Oliver would give the Browns a talented youngster to develop into a potential No. 1 corner.


Round 2, Pick No. 35
Ronald Jones II, running back, USC

When Dorsey arrived in Kansas City, he inherited Pro Bowl running back Jamaal Charles, seeing the value of a foundation back to take pressure off the QB. This past draft, he plucked Kareem Hunt in Round 3. With Isaiah Crowell's future uncertain and head coach Hue Jackson having no clue how to keep Duke Johnson involved for all four quarters, Jones makes plenty of sense. A tough, big-play back, Jones rushed for 1,550 yards and 19 touchdowns this season en route to All-Pac 12 First-Team honors.

Round 2, Pick No. 63
Anthony Miller, wide receiver, Memphis

Snagging Rosen with the top pick puts pressure on the front office to give him weapons to succeed. Miller, who capped a second straight 90-reception season this past year at Memphis, finished his career with 37 touchdown grabs and would add to Cleveland's budding group of pass catchers.

Round 3, Pick No. 65
Jerome Baker, linebacker, Ohio State

The Browns need more speed and athleticism at linebacker. Enter Baker, a semifinalist for the Butkus Award in 2017.

Round 4, Pick No. 103
Quenton Meeks, cornerback, Stanford

With so many picks, the Browns can focus on one specific area to attack, using numerous resources to improve quickly. Defensive back should be that spot. Meeks decided to forego his senior season, entering the draft early after receiving All-Pac 12 Second-Team honors this season. He finished with 65 tackles, two interceptions and eight pass breakups, showing the potential to be a quality corner thanks to his combination of size, length and understanding of the position.

Round 4, Pick No. 125
Michael Dieter, center, Wisconsin

The Browns signed J.C. Tretter to a three-year deal last off-season, helping fill one of the holes along the offensive line. He played well. But depth is important and Dieter can be developed slowly, before potentially taking over for Tretter down the road.

Round 5, Pick No. 140
Brandon Parker, offensive tackle, North Carolina A&T

The Browns need left tackle Joe Thomas back. If he returns, right tackle remains the one problem area along the offensive line. A 6-foot-8, 310 pound mountain, Parker is an intriguing prospect and two-time Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC) Offensive Lineman of the Year.

Round 5, Pick No. 161
DaeSean Hamilton, wide receiver, Penn State

The Penn State wideout enters the draft with a bit of momentum, capping his best season with a strong performance in the Fiesta Bowl (five catches, 110 yards and two touchdowns). He may not have the gaudy stats as some of the other prospects, but Hamilton, who could be best suited for the slot at the next level, has strong hands and showed the ability to make tough, in-traffic catches.

Round 6, Pick No. 179
Chikwe Obasih, defensive end, Wisconsin

After suffering a leg injury early in the season, Obasih finally returned for the final six games, having little impact in his senior season. But this late into the draft, the Browns take a flyer on a 2016 All-Big Ten Honorable Mention player.

Round 7, Pick No. 220
Mike White, quarterback, Western Kentucky

Given the continued QB problems, the Browns toss another dart at the board with White, the former baseball player, who has the size (6-foot-4, 225 pounds), smarts and accuracy to warrant late-round consideration. White completed 66 percent of his passes in 2017 for 4,177 yards with 26 touchdowns and eight interceptions.

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That’s an interesting mock....

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I tried again. Traded out of #1, got the Broncos future #1 (analytics FTW :D). I can't see Rosen falling and was gutted Minkah was taken but I'd take this draft. I traded back into the first to pick up the best receiver available.

Your score is: 20806 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA (A+)
Round 1 Pick 5 (DEN): Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 16 (BALT): Courtland Sutton, WR, Southern Methodist (B)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 2 Pick 8 (DEN): Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 3 Pick 1: Armani Watts, FS, Texas AM (A-)
Round 5 Pick 1: Holton Hill, CB, Texas (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Marcell Ateman, WR, Oklahoma State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Bo Scarbrough, RB, Alabama (A)

Your Future Picks:
2019 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick (DEN)
2020 Round 1 Pick

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Your score is: 19106 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 2 Pick 3: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 30: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (B-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 24: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Joshua Kalu, FS, Nebraska (D)
Round 6 Pick 1: Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (B+)

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Originally Posted By: edromeo
Your score is: 19106 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 2 Pick 3: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 30: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (B-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 24: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Joshua Kalu, FS, Nebraska (D)
Round 6 Pick 1: Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (B+)



No QB?????.? You must enjoy 1-31

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Originally Posted By: edromeo
Your score is: 19106 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State (A)
Round 1 Pick 4: Minkah Fitzpatrick, CB/FS, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 2 Pick 3: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame (B+)
Round 2 Pick 30: D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Marcus Davenport, DE, Texas-San Antonio (B-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, OLB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 24: Brandon Facyson, CB, Virginia Tech (A+)
Round 5 Pick 1: Dorian ODaniel, OLB, Clemson (B+)
Round 5 Pick 22: Joshua Kalu, FS, Nebraska (D)
Round 6 Pick 1: Cedrick Wilson, WR, Boise State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1: Andrew Wingard, FS, Wyoming (B+)



No QB?????.? You must enjoy 1-31


Or he could be going for the Jaguar/Eagles/Vikings model. They have Bortles, Foles, and Keenum at QB.

Plus, there is free agency.


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