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Your bias is showing. The SEC sucks this year and they weren't very good last year. They get a lot of hype because of the contracts w/ESPN and CBS.
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Beating an undefeated team should count for something..
It's a toss up tho on Bama vs. Ohio st. getting in..
Personally, as a UGA guy, I prefer Ohio St bc I think we matchup better against them if we have to see them.
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This is what makes it fun.....nothing personal.
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The only legite argument I’ve heard was from Wannstadt ... the part of what he said I agree with was GEOGRAPHICAL ...
NONE of the menZas who HAVE NO SAY in it mentioned OSU’s LOSSES ...
They got HUMILATED by a 500 team ... u keep saying that Bama got manhandled by Auburn ... and i agree ... well u guys got WHOOPED EVEN worse on the scoreboard by a 500 team ...
U also got WHOOPED at home by OU ... Bama’s loss was on the road ..
I’m done ... Good Luck tonight ... later ..
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Isn't every Alabama game a home game? Seems like it. They only played 4 away games. Overrated.
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How come Wisconsin never has a QB?
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How come Wisconsin never has a QB? Obviously they had Russell Wilson, but he was a graduate transfer. That's not really what I mean. Although it seems like they should get the best of those guys every year.
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Clemson might just repeat.
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Clemson might just repeat. Was just thinking thwt... if we get in we're going to have to play lights out to beat them... clearly the number one team..
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Final stats from the interactive model...
1. Clemson 99% to make playoff 2. Oklahoma 99% to make playoff 3. Georgia 98% to make playoff 4. Ohio State 40% to make playoff 5. Alabama 28% to make playoff 6. USC 20% to make playoff 7. Auburn 11% to make playoff 8. Wisconsin 2% to make playoff
everyone else is <1%
The big thing to happen outside of the games involving these teams was Fresno losing to Boise and falling out of the top-25, that's now one less top-25 win Alabama has.
We'll see what happens, I think there will be some interesting conversations tonight.
Gun to my head I think they pick Alabama, but Ohio State's case over Alabama is good. Everyone was trying to make the point that Ohio State needed to blowout Wisconsin, but UW will finish in the top 10 with the loss, and that's still a really good win.
Blowout would have been nice, but not necessary in the long run, I don't think that would be a determining factor.
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IMO, the loss to Iowa will prove to be too damning. Even if OSU would have lost by 10 ... that's more excusable. But it was a beat down.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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People are talking way too much about the Iowa loss.
There are 4 major factors that the committee uses to choose their teams and Ohio State is above Alabama using that criteria.
Ohio State will be playing Clemson. And Georgia will be playing Oklahoma.
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The only legite argument I’ve heard was from Wannstadt ... the part of what he said I agree with was GEOGRAPHICAL ...
NONE of the menZas who HAVE NO SAY in it mentioned OSU’s LOSSES ...
They got HUMILATED by a 500 team ... u keep saying that Bama got manhandled by Auburn ... and i agree ... well u guys got WHOOPED EVEN worse on the scoreboard by a 500 team ...
U also got WHOOPED at home by OU ... Bama’s loss was on the road ..
I’m done ... Good Luck tonight ... later .. I agree with this, especially the Wandstadt comments last night. Good post 
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IMO, the loss to Iowa will prove to be too damning. Even if OSU would have lost by 10 ... that's more excusable. But it was a beat down. I agree with this, and if they let, if they for the first time, start letting 2 loss teams in, when "everybody" or "almost everybody" doesn't have 2 loss conference championships then the argument for expanding this thing, And destroying further the traditional bowls will be too loud, and it will just ruin,(my opinion<) the whole future of college football. The Worst thing they could do, (and I don't care who gets in), the very worst thing they could do is expand this thing to 15-30-64, just like basketball, and if they even expand it to 6, or 8, with so few years since they moved from 2 teams to 4, then the bowls, and college football as we know it, is doomed. I'd rather they cancel the wholeD thing for one year, it'd do less damage. (everyones forgetting year one)
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FYI ... I HOPE u guys get in ... I despise Bama football more than any other team in any college sport ... the only team that tops them is my dislike in all of sports is the Yankees .. IMO Bama deserves to get in over U cause of your loss to the 500 team and the fact your CONFERENCE STINKS ... U want to throw your wins against top 16 or 17 teams and the FACT ( i agree with u) that Bama beat no one ... Your 3 top 16 wins are against teams that ALSO PLAYED NO ONE ... Wisconsins and PSU’s out of conference schedule was as BAD as Bama’s .. combined they played NOBODY .... Your other win was against MSU ... i know one of their out of conference games was against a team u yourself called CRAPPY and that CRAPPY team KICKED THE SNOT OUT OF MSU at MSU .. Sorry man ... thats how i see it ... And I HOPE u get in ... Remember something ... theres an old saying ... the enemy of my enemy is my friend ... ND’s biggest rivalry is USC ... 2nd biggest used to be ND and Fichigan ...  ...
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I've changed my mind on this, and watching the B1G halftime show, it was Dave Wandstadt's arguments that have changed my mind. He's saying if they let in Alabama, (which I've said up until this morning,) that 2 teams from one conf are going to force expansion of the playoff.
Everybody's forgetting year one. Expanding would be destructive to college football, I can't endorse that.
Years ago they had the one game championship, and it was always florida teams and or Sec teams, and or California team, maybe texas ... that got the nod over teams from the heartland of the country without fail.
Yet, even then the 4 game playoff was largely argued by people from areas of the SEC that they needed a way to have "two" teams from the SEC, have a shot because they were the best 2 teams. ( And they leaned a lot on "rankings" AP rankings, during the season.)
ALSO! Some Utah area teams Boise, others, were tired of being left out, and they went to political action, congressional bills to demand that a College football champion be determined in a "playoff".
That was the situation before year one. And at that time I held the opionion/argument that the Southern SEC/Florida teams that always got in were "overrating" 2 loss teams because they claimed they beat each other up with their ("too good"-ness).
So, It was designed to allow 2 SEC teams in, but it's largly favored tOSU and the Big Ten from it's start.
IN year ONE! Everybody was arguing Boise St. TCU, TCU, Boise ST. from the big 12 which didn't have a conf. championship game, and shared a conf championship,
But the Buckeyes got in, (wihout a conf championship that year, IIRC.), and the Buckeyes won it all.
The Buckeyes were also, the first team to get in a couple years later, while not playing in the conference championship, when a team with 1 more loss, (2 losses, vs Ohio states 1 loss, IIRC.) from their own conf. , the big 10, winning the conf championship.
I mean if they put Ohio State in, they've basically bent the rules 3 different ways, and this year directly opposite of the other times they bent them, to get Ohio state in 3 separate times, I mean they might as well call it the Ohio State always gets in tournament, it's Ludacris.
So Don't forget year one. The whole argument was Boise st. TCu, TCU, Boise sT. and OUT OF NO WHERE they moved the Buckeyes up and the Ohio State University got in and won it all.
And the reason they did, was to stay true to the process, and set the example that a shared conf. championship, a conf that can't decide, should just be left out.
I want them to stay true to the process here too. Because the worst thing they can do is start ruining the system by putting in just anybody, or the wrong somebody.
Alabama; If Alabama can't Shouldn't get in because if they have 1 loss, and didn't play in the conf title game, and aren't a conf champion, and played Mercer in November. and not only that
Alabama can't benefit from the precedent that put tOSU. Ohio State in, in year 3 while not being a conf champion because in that year when Ohio St. got in, the Big 10 champ had 2 losses and "DIDN'T!" GET IN. But this year An SEC team Georgia Will.
So putting Alabama in, is putting 2 teams from one conf. in , and excluding some conf. altogether, so putting Alabama in is BAD! and BAD for the future of the 4 team playoff.
Ohio State. has 2 losses. (and one was to Iowa), and Penn st. also has 2 losses, and so does USC, and so do a whole myriad of teams this year, last year(s), and next year / future years. The committee has never allowed a 2 loss team in, and they shouldn't unless they have no choice because of almost all teams having 2 losses at the time.
So Ohio State getting in would be BAD and BAD FOR THE FUTURE OF THE 4 TEAM PLAYOFF.
So , Just like Year one when TCU and Boise St. BOTH! got left out, I think the right move is to leave BOTH! Ohio State, and Alabama out.
Who Benefits! Not TCU, PSU, Auburn, or USC, and certainly not Notre Dame or Miami. nope.
Congratulations! UCF!! #4, You Deserve it!
Precedent set!
Now go make it happen! 1. Clemson, 2. Oklahoma, 3. Georgia 4. UCF
My Hope, my prediction, because I want to SAVE THE 4 TEAM PLAYOFF,
save it from expansion, by 2 teams from one conference, and save it from expansion by letting 2 loss teams in.
And Save the traditional Bowl games from further irrelevancy.
And Give small conf. schools the hope of a Cinderella.
This is just my vote. The Selection committee will have their show and make their choice.
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Interesting point just made....the Big 10 is the only conference without a non-conference win against a ranked team.
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Sorry OSU... root for my dawgs in the mean time
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Sorry OSU... root for my dawgs in the mean time I will be. Can’t argue against the pick of Bama, thought they would be more political and they weren’t. I’m glad to see that even as an OSU fan.
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I will root for Georgia and Bama.
If one makes it in, I will root for them. If both make it in, I probably go for Georgia.
If neither go in, I go for Clemson, a southern team, but Okies are kind of country folks, they listen to country music. I won't be upset if they win. Baker Mayfield might be our next QB.
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I'd like to Georgia win it all as well.
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Never question the NCAA's affinity for Nick Saban and Alabama again.
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Never question the NCAA's affinity for Nick Saban and Alabama again. I think the 30 point loss to Iowa was more damning than an affinity for 1 team.
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the NCAA's affinity for Nick Saban and Alabama again. I don't think that is the reason. Iowa is the reason, especially since OSU got the bye in last year and crapped the bed. Add in that Bama was #1 for most of the season, it was a pretty easy decision.....and I like the Bucks, I really do, but you can't lose to a team like Iowa by 30 and expect to get favors.
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Its time to expand the playoffs ... when two teams from the SEC which was weak this year they have to expand to 6 or 8 teams ... JMHO 
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I'm disappointed, but not surprised. You just can't let a team like Iowa put up 55 on you. Lose that game by a FG or one TD and you probably get the nod over Bama, but not 55-24. We always seem to get one WTF game from the Buckeyes every year.
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I'd like the looks of this:
1 Clemson 8 USC
4 Alabama 5 Ohio State
2 Oklahoma 7 Auburn
3 Georgia 6 Wisconsin
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E$ECPN Got Alabama In Plain and Simple !!!! 
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Taking away all the BS .. the team that deserved it more got in IMO ... SORRY VERS ... i truely wish they got in for U and a few others ... My new favorite team is WHOEVER PLAYS BAMA ... that team has been promoted from 2nd favorite to 1st favorite ... I’d ASSume their playing Clemson first .... If so ..... ROLL TIGERS ROLL .... 
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Alabama did NOT beat a good football team all year Oh I forgot they played Mercer lol, I thought it was the resume not one stumble that got teams in OHIO STATE beat then #2 Penn State #4 Wisconsin and Then #8 MSU + Won the BIG TEN who did Bama beat Just sayin' 
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I knew the fix was in when Fresno State made the top 25. That was just to try to pad Alabama's resume as much as possible.
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All the talking heads including Paul Finebaum got there way ...
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Alabama did NOT beat a good football team all year Oh I forgot they played Mercer lol, I thought it was the resume not one stumble that got teams in OHIO STATE beat then #2 Penn State #4 Wisconsin and Then #8 MSU + Won the BIG TEN who did Bama beat Just sayin' FSU was #3 and Mississippi St was #16 when Alabama played and beat them. Its only fair to mention that since your post references PSU, Wisky, and MSU's rankings at the time we played them.
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U mention resume .... then act like the stumble(S) aren’t a part of the resume .... This isn’t a job interview u just dont get to include the GOOD STUFF .... Conveniently U “FORGET” to mention they had 2 STUMBLES ... witch of one of them wasn’t a stumble it was more akin to FALLING DOWN A FLIGHT OF STAIRS!!!
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Yea but there ALL still ranked high ... FSU barley broke even and MS lost 4 games ...
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Its time to expand the playoffs ... when two teams from the SEC which was weak this year they have to expand to 6 or 8 teams ... JMHO The SEC, even in a down year is still the best. I mean, the 3rd place team in the SEC wins over the Big 10 Champ......just saying my friend, the Big 10 Championship doesn't mean much.
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