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Disagree, it was average. The entire team is terrible.
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Disagree, it was average. The entire team is terrible. Might it have been a mistake to tear the team apart and rebuild from scratch? If that's going to occur, your talent evaluation has to be spot on, and from what I can tell, it's not even average at the moment.
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The defense made enough plays to win against this offense. This loss is on kizer Well, they didn't force a punt until halfway thru the 4th qtr.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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On the bright side, no way it can get any worse next year
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How many times does it have to be said? THE BROWNS NEED A FREAKING QUARTERBACK! Kizer is nothing more then a back up QB.
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With the 1st pick in the 2018 NFL draft the Cleveland Clowns draft ...
The Cleveland Browns have traded the pick.
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He has one pass line drive heater, no internal clock, red zone mistakes over and over, at least one strip sack a game. regressing not improving.
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The defense made enough plays to win against this offense. This loss is on kizer Well, they didn't force a punt until halfway thru the 4th qtr. Yeah but they didn’t give up tds, you can live with 3 if you’re offense is atleast average
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With the 1st pick in the 2018 NFL draft the Cleveland Clowns draft ...
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I'm done with them all. This is futile. I crave continuity, but this coaching staff literally deserves none.
Yes, these players are young, but allowing 450 yards isn't normal. Being unable to run the ball for two damn seasons isn't normal. Being unable to generate favourable match-ups in the passing game isn't normal. Being 0-12 after a 1-15 first year isn't normal.
Teams around the league are operating on far less talent than we have, are taking greater strides than we are, and I'm tired of pretending we're just completely devoid of talent.
Hue Jackson and Gregg Williams need to go. We've got a bunch of picks to move in a new direction, and I'd rather trust new coaches to develop the incoming talent than pretend these coaches have our roster moving in the right direction.
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How many times does it have to be said? THE BROWNS NEED A FREAKING QUARTERBACK! Kizer is nothing more then a back up QB. A back up? He's that good?
WE DON'T NEED A QB BEFORE WE GET A LINE THAT CAN PROTECT HIM
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Disagree, it was average. The entire team is terrible. Might it have been a mistake to tear the team apart and rebuild from scratch? If that's going to occur, your talent evaluation has to be spot on, and from what I can tell, it's not even average at the moment. yep.
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He has one pass line drive heater, no internal clock, red zone mistakes over and over, at least one strip sack a game. regressing not improving. Just like he played at ND.
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I'm done with them all. This is futile. I crave continuity, but this coaching staff literally deserves none.
Yes, these players are young, but allowing 450 yards isn't normal. Being unable to run the ball for two damn seasons isn't normal. Being unable to generate favourable match-ups in the passing game isn't normal. Being 0-12 after a 1-15 first year isn't normal.
Teams around the league are operating on far less talent than we have, are taking greater strides than we are, and I'm tired of pretending we're just completely devoid of talent.
Hue Jackson and Gregg Williams need to go. We've got a bunch of picks to move in a new direction, and I'd rather trust new coaches to develop the incoming talent than pretend these coaches have our roster moving in the right direction.
What teams are? I'm curious. The Browns brain trust have decided that picks are valuable (which they are), but if you can't properly evaluate the talent, it doesn't matter how many draft picks you have.
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I'm so sick of the young excuse also, Rams did a 180 in one off season.
There is not a player who I would say is untradable
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How many times does it have to be said? THE BROWNS NEED A FREAKING QUARTERBACK! Kizer is nothing more then a back up QB. A back up? He's that good? 3rd or 4th string
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