DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Kizer/Hue's 4 Game referendum ;)

Good point.

Dorsey will be watching these last 4 games...closely.

Yez, and there will be guys on the bubble who will be auditioning.
Although, they always are regardless.

Now, there is breaking news.

LOL...........don't get mad ed. Just messing w/you.

Think about what you said for a minute. LOL

I guess I should have elaborated more....many posters in this thread said their minds are already made up and nothing that happens in the last 4 games will change their opinions.

But now, especially with a new GM in tow, the last 4 games have more import then they did before (and i thought they were important then).

Dorsey will be evaluating everyone, including Hue, very closely. Player jobs are on the line that weren't last week. We may actually see better play because of it. Allowing Dorsey the time to come in and evaluate the roster prior to the end of the season was an excellent move by Haslam. Even if it was unintentional.

I expect, hope the next 4 games will be the best 4 games of the season.

I think the biggest difference will be the jump in WR talent. They only have a couple-three weeks of chemistry but the talent level has jumped.

Wish we had Collins & Ogbah.

I'm not sure if you meant this as a rhetorical question?

To answer your question the difference these games will make is in personnel.

Yep, I think guys are playing for employment more now and not riding the excuse of being young and in time we'll improve. There's a fair portion of these guys who have about four more weeks in the league period.

And coaching evaluation.

I actually believe that every game is just as important as any other in the evaluation process. As such, I feel the film on all 16 games will be just as important as the last four.

As far as the coaching staff goes, I believe these last four games mean very little if anything. The commitment has already been made in regards to Hue and the coaching staff to return next year. IMO- that ship has sailed.

Yep, the ship has sailed and can sink at any time because Jimmy's word is as good as a 3 dollar bill.

The odds of Hue getting fired actually went up once Jimmy said he'll be here next year.

Does it make sense to play well enough to LOSE the #1 pick?

The best thing that can come out of these next 4 games being evaluated is that there is a DEFINITE need for an OC.

After Hues comments about how HE didn't want anybody fired....lol...I wouldn't let him hire a OC at this point.



Sorry Hue, it's not in the budget, we are spending it on players....plus...I wouldn't want anybody else fired.

I can agree whole heartedly with all of that, including using the #1 on QB,
EXCEPT FOR: Kizer being inaccurate.

Kizer is not inaccurate, he is something special, I really like what I've seen from him, every game going back to August,
in fact, at that point I was totally against Kizer, ... but his promising play changed my mind, he clearly demonstrated that he is the best option and should be out there, gives you the best chance to win.

Kizer has largly shown, Arm strength: Accuracy: Quickness, and an ability to pump fake: Leadership:
and youthful enthusiasm. He just needs more time with his receivers.

And we need to use the #1 on a Qb, no doubt.

I don't think we have to worry about that. The Giants and 49ers both have two wins. We have only have two potential wins left on our schedule (Packers and Bears). There is no way we beat the Ravens or Steelers.

I don't think we will win 2 games, but the Ravens aren't very good and the Steelers might be resting guys.

Wow throw.

I keep reading that we don't use the middle of the field and that we don't play action. LOL

Hue has been using the middle of the field more the past 3-4 weeks, I've noticed. More running too. And more play action. And Kiser has benefited from those adjustments.

JMHO

I don't know about the middle of the field comments...wasnt my claim.

But, play action was being under utilized. Last week there 10 plays under center and none were passes let alone play-action.

It was nice to see play-action dialed up.

Kizer steps through the pocket finds open space.
Resets his feet then uncorks a 53 yard pass.
Refs missed PI.

This is an example of the 'plus' ability he brings to the table.

I wonder how many heads would explode and if Dorsey and hue decide to pass on a QB #1 overall.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised and would welcome tradedown. We can still get a QB in the top 7 of the draft and fleece a desperate team. This is the perfect draft to set the draft board.

I respectfully disagree. We have plenty of draft picks and we always miss out on impact players by trading down. The future is now. We need to win some games now!

Rosen is a superior qb. I think we have to take him w/our first pick.

The real question would be how big of an impact would Haslam's head exploding make. Hearing him talk in that pilot j recording makes me believe he has the head 3x the size of the average man.

Spider 2 Concept
Really good coverage on this play.
Coaching point would be to (a) get the ball out earlier (b) keep over the LB but in bounds to give the TE a chance

Slant-flat concept
Kizer gets pressure throws off back foot (a no-no) but shows off his plus arm talent to fit a ball into a tight window

And lead away from the defender, more toward the sideline.

Common play-action combo. Coleman runs a go route, Gordon with over/deep crosser.
Coleman's underneath defender stumble and Gordo doesn't see him.
Scary hold your breath moment when Gordo went down.
Good read, ball looks like it would have been on target.
Hue sure as heck ain't dinkin around with the passing concepts.
This is a big ball passing game.

Crow wide open in the flat, could've run for days.

DeValve from the in-line TE spot (R) gets separation from a DB on an square out route.
11-yard gain on 3rd and 6
After stepping up in pocket DK throws from the far hash marks towards the opposite sideline after stepping up in the pocket.

Whenever I watch DeValve I wonder why/if we can get him the ball more.

Yup, its very common to see 'open' receivers when watching re-watching plays.

On this type of route-combo the progression is likely a half-field Hi-Lo read with the progression starting w/ Coleman on the go route(clearing) for Gordon's over/deep crosser then the RB on a swing/wheel as the 'checkdown'