DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Jimmy Haslam confirms Hue Jackson to return in 2018

While Hue has blame to take in this mess I'm glad he's still here.I'm probably in the minority but I believe he can still be a good coach.I just hope Hue and the new GM can work well together.

IMO the last thing we need is more roster turnover to bring players in to fit a new coaching staffs scheme on O and D.(I would say special teams also but Tabor seems to have a lifetime contract as he always survives)

I don't think you are in the minority. There are probably 5-7 FO guys on here who post a lot. That doesn't mean they are in the majority. They just dominate some of our conversations.

5 would be acceptable to me if we are IN most of the games.

I agree Bust/Barq. .. I didn't care if we kept Sashi but I want our coaches retained until at least the end of next season. I don't wanna change coaches, schemes.... Hue has made some head-scratching play calls, but all coaches do. Screw it anyways - I want continuity.

Frankly, a lot of this whole problem is this: if we had good QB play, we wouldn't be losing so many damn games.

With a young roster that's about to get younger after the next draft haul, 7 would be amazing.

I'm shocked Hue is coming back ...

But just the other day you said everyone needed to stay.

Did I say "needed?"

Look, little man. I don't want to fight w/you. I am very happy that my team has made a great move. So take a freaking hike!

jc

I'm glad Hue is staying.

I don't blame him for the record.

This team has an extreme youth problem, and can't retain talent.

That's not Hue's fault.

The youth could probably be coached up a little better. But overall inexperience probably plays more of a role for this team's fails.

"Little". Aw, that's cute. The Dorsey hire does have credibility, no doubt. I just like pointing out how transparent and obvious you are any chance I get.

I like being transparent. It's called honesty. Very unlike you.

Btw---------did you find that "needed" quote yet, or are did you just make that up?

Congratulations! Finally things are looking up for the Browns.

There are several where you stated that everyone should stay. You really want me to post all those? There are many. Do they all say "needed". Hell, I don't know but they all say the same thing?

And when I mean transparent, I think you know exactly what I mean. And it's the opposite of being honest. More like, people see right through everything you say.

LOL..........so, you fabricated what I said.

Dude, take a hike.

Your constant attacks are a detriment to the board.

Talk football or shut the hell up!

No I didn't fabricate anything. But I will post them if you like tomorrow. They aren't going anywhere.

You're telling people to "talk football' again. I do enjoy when you say that.

Quoted for irony.


I'm glad Hue's staying and hope Dorsey works out.

Here's one yesterday from you:



This one is from 12/4:


Shall I continue? There are some really good ones.

You said that I said "needed." Prove it.

I was "hoping" we would keep everyone because I believe in continuity. That is far different than saying "we needed to keep everyone." So Mouth, prove it or apologize. You won't do either.

All I know is that I was talking football and you jumped in w/yet another attack. I never said a freaking word to you. You started this BS just like you always do!


The Browns are better off today than they were yesterday and I am happy.

Now, spin some more crap like you always do.

Here's one yesterday from you:



Where is the word "needed?" LOL...........you mislead posters yet again.

LOl...........he is desperately trying to find the word needed. He won't, but he damn well sure try to spin it.

You were "hoping"? You just said you're glad he is gone. My two examples are proof enough that you publicly advocated for everyone to stay and it is clear that was utter BS.

Whether "needed" was used is highly irrelevant. "Needed" is synonymous with many other terms; terms you used suggesting that everyone should be kept. I'm very glad I was able to point this out.

No, I'm not. Feel free to get fixated on needed. I think I made my point. You said everyone should stay. Today, you glad Sashi is gone.

That tells us plenty.

Spin, spin, spin.

You fabricated what I said and now you are spinning things to make yourself look less foolish. It isn't working. You are the one who is transparent.

Us? Who is "us?"

No spin. You talked about everyone needing to stay for the sake of the plan. The posts I showed clearly illustrate that, whether it was verbatim or not.

Smart people on here will understand that.

Others will say spin, spin, spin.

Now.............to the board. I did not start this BS argument. I was trying to talk football. Memphis made some crap up like he always does.

However, I do apologize for participating in this stupid ass argument.

Back to football.

Hue is going to be here. He is going to have a real football guy in the FO. Things are looking up for the Browns.

I was hoping for continuity. I am tired of blowing things up. However, I think w/this hiring......we are not blowing things up. I think Hue stays. I think Dorsey agreed to that and that is why the Browns issued the statement of Hue being here next year. It's the best of both worlds.

I am serious in that I think that this is a great day for the Browns!

I'll take responsibility for starting the argument. No question about that. It's what you do on a message board-- debate, argue, challenge people's logic & consistency, etc. I should probably go ahead and apologize now for future ones I start. It will happen.

But when it's clear that a poster has been spewing BS over a particular topic and you know it's true, only to conveniently drop the post you need to call him/her out on it, please know I'll be the first person to point that out. Especially when it's from a poster that repeatedly treats people like garbage and gets suspended regularly. This is one of those times, and sorry, it won't be the last.

But carry on.....

I’d like to Thank U both for the last page - page in a half of RIVETING READING ...

GREAT STUFF ..... thanks ....

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The Browns are a better organization today than they were yesterday. We had a lawyer making personnel decisions. That is nothing against lawyers, because 05 is one of the VERY BEST posters on this board and has been for years. I'm just saying that doesn't mean he should have control of the roster.

We have a guy who can evaluate collegiate talent in Dorsey. We have a HC who has been known to have great schemes and can develop qbs. It's a winning combination.

And I think the word "combination" is key. I'm assuming they can work together because Dorsey took the job and the Browns announced that Hue would be here in 2018. That speaks to mutual respect for one another. And while Hue said he hasn't talked to Dorsey........I kinda doubt that. I bet they met and this was worked out before the firing/hiring.

I am not sure if this will work, but I am very hopeful that it will. I have way more confidence in our future success than I did yesterday.

Vers,
Its apparent that everyone that is suprised/shocked/in the FO corner does not like logic and facts. Its not like you, me or anyone else that KEPT SAYING that the FO missed on keeping FA, tried to build a team through the draft and missed on QBs two years running, was not going to have to answer for it!!!

Sashi/Depodesta's approach would take too long to build and would continually be purging vets for draft picks. They had final say in the roster, picks, signings, they take the heat when the ax falls!!

The crazy thing is how close to accurate fans were looking from the outside. Sashi might have fell on his sword the last time when he did not pick up McCarron. His time was short after that!

You said something similar when Haslem bought this team and hired Banner. So don't get pissed if I don't take your word for it. You are just as wrong about things with this team as you might be right.

Dorsey has a good track record and he may very well be great for us. But I like the talent we drafted in the last two years while accumulating the assets we did. Who says Berry and his scouts can't evaluate collegiate talent? They did a good job as far as I'm concerned.

I have no clue what happens to Hue.....and what you should be saying to yourself is "Why should I believe Jimmy when he says Hue will be here in 2018" Where have you been these last five years when it comes to things he says?

Peyton Manning Browns new offensive Coordinator?

j/c


Not a huge deal, but one of the few I thought of when I heard of the Sashi firing was the amount of people who are going to say I told you so and assume they were right because it's what happened.

Just because 300 people think answer A is correct and only 30 people think answer B is correct that doesn't necessarily mean answer A is correct.

How many people have said that, device?

Now, if it was the other way around.............LOL

That is a very good point! I had not thought of that until you brought it up.

It's just a very weird thing to say. Especially during a press conference that occurred the same day the GM was fired.

That and the comment about the leaks rubbed me the wrong way.

Outside of here, I've had a handful of fans tell me that I told you so in regards to the front office being the problem. (I haven't been here long enough today to know about what's been said here, but I know there will be some.) And I don't believe they're correct as much as you would believe it would be a mistake that they fired Hue and kept the front office.

LOL, yeah that he looked for the guy that leaked to the Denver reporter. If I were in the room I would have stood up and said "Bob Wylie is over there!"

I wonder if he looked for the guy that leaked info to his daughter and his buddy Mike Silver on the same day as well.

Didn't the entire organization just tell all their players they suck when Haslam said Hue is right and fired Sashi?

Can you imagine the translation to the players?

"It's not Hue's fault we are losing. He's a great coach! We are losing because of the lack of talent Sashi brought in, which just so happens to be most if you."

Or the guy who was leaking all the information about how Hue Jackson wanted Wentz, Goff, Garoppolo, etc.