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Really some people have a problem with this move?

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The only thing I don't like about this cut is it sends a clear message to Green Bay that Sammie Coates is back from injury. Wish we'd left it a few more days. When Gordon got back, the only thing keeping Britt on the roster was the lack of depth from Coates being injured. He's still listed as questionable on the injury report, but now it confirms that he'll be good to go.

Kenny can suck it. Can't stand guys like him. I can handle a player being bad, the league can be cruel that way, but his loafing and general not-giving-a-sh*t attitude was toxic. Good riddance.


If Kenny Britt not playing is going to cause Green Bay to change their game plan, then they are in worse shape than I thought.

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Ok....good move.

I know why we signed Britt, but it didn't work out.....one of the stains on Sashi for sticking with the guy.


I think Dorsey is going to be pretty good.


I have to think on things for a day or so....I am still not resolved on the way Hue handled his affairs, but I am good with the recent move.




Now we have a football guy in charge.....but, football guys aren't the smartest guy in the room. We have been through this.



I am good with Dorsey, even though I feel Sashi explained the plan, worked the plan, but our head coach panicked and worked to save his ass at Sashi's expense..

I don't have a lot of respect for Hue at this moment.

I am fairly confident he will coach his way out of the job.


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Thank the Lord Britt is gone...for the youngest team in the league, you don't want a cancerous veteran...Guy has been in the dog house all year, and was expected ot be in the dawg pound...Even though I was highly critical of the signing and wanted WR Robert Woods in FA...then again Woods got a higher salary than what I imagined as well...

Let this be a lesson to this organization...Read between the lines, when deciphering if a player is only here to cash in on a big contract...or to actually play to 100% percent of his ability and heart.

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j/c:

I would have cut Treggs, Louis, or Higgins before cutting Britt. At least when Britt was allowed on the field, he did better than those three guys.

This was a statement move. It is as simple as that. New GMs come in and do that all the time, sometimes with the request of a HC...and it's their right, they got the new role. They want to establish a tone.

Britt's perceived issues in the locker room sure didn't help his cause.


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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
GB will not give Coates a second thought.


Agreed. Which is why it has been working.

Just take a look at the numbers, per ESPN's count (and my double checking Kizer's interceptions the last few games.)

Kizer to Coleman: 9/20 for 140 yards, 1 INT.
Kizer to Gordon: 4/11 for 85 yards.
Kizer to Louis: 5/16 for 72 yards, 1 INT.

18/47 (38%) for 297 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT, 42.5 passer rating.

Kizer to Britt: 8/10 for 105 yards, 1 TD.
Kizer to Coates: 4/4 for 52 yards.
Kizer to Higgins: 7/8 for 78 yards, 1 INT.

19/22 (86%) for 235 yards and 1 TD, 1 INT, 107.3 passer rating.

I'm not saying Britt, Coates and Higgins are great. We need upgrades at WR and it starts with them. It is doubtful any of them are on the roster for the 2018 season. But Kizer just isn't good enough to heavily target main receivers. He needs to be spreading the ball as much as possible to limit teams keying in on what he's doing.

Just ask Matt Ryan after Thursday night. Sometimes the best thing you can do is avoid your best playmakers.

I just want to win games. I feel like this cut is less about winning games than, frankly, it is about Hue Jackson taking another shot at the front office.

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j/c:

A few thoughts on this:

--I think it was more of a Hue move than a Dorsey move.

--I do applaud Dorsey for backing Hue. We have been missing that w/Sashi.

--We have a small number of vocal posters on here who have been making excuses for the FO and talking about Hue being fired for some time now. I remember reading multiple posts about how "laughable" it was that Sashi was making roster decisions. Uhmmmmm..........this move pretty much proves how freaking wrong you guys were. There is nothing wrong w/being wrong, but how you ridiculed and attacked people who questioned Sahshi and defended Hue was malicious.

--I didn't like the Britt signing because the guy has had a ton of character issues. I think that he is gone for those issues rather than his lack of production. It isn't about numbers. It's about him being an ass. Milk mentioned the article[s] about how Britt and someone else [maybe Coates, but not sure about that] being so obnoxious and loud in the locker room that other guys couldn't even properly be interviewed.

--There is no room on a young team for a jerk like that. However, just as he has done for two years, Sashi needed to keep "his guys" and get rid of others.

--I am so glad that both of those scum-bags are gone. The Browns are so much better off w/out them.

--One final thought............we might actually have a coach and GM who will work together. What a novel concept.

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It WAS Coates, btw.

That locker room crap, being obnoxious and all, missing curfew of whatever that was when they sent him home a few weeks ago, does not befit a mature vet. Or any player.

Glad he's gone. Kinda telling on a couple levels that Dorsey's first move was to dump Britt. And I doubt hue tried to dissuade him lol... it was probably the opposite.


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Yeah, I am pretty sure Hue went to Dorsey and said we gotta get rid of this ass.

Sashi wouldn't do it because he was the one who signed him.

I am so glad we are rid of Sashi, who made it almost impossible for this coaching staff to win games.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
I was happy when we signed him, but he has been a complete disappointment.

I suspect that Hue has wanted to get rid of him, and now he can.


This is how I feel... good riddence


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OmG. He killed kenny

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Bam!!
Just don't bring back Kenny Dorsey. Yeah I went there


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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk


About freaking time!

And I'm really feeling that Pryor will be back next year.


Pryor is not good at his job and Dorsey is supposed to be.

I'm not seeing it.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Good move cutting Britt. Long overdue. Maybe this will help morale because besides Britt not wanting to play it sounds like he wasn't to well liked.

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i literally just said today "let's see if Britt gets cut now with Dorsey"


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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It's a good sign that Hue and Dorsey are starting off on the right note and the same page. Dorsey has to have made this decision almost entirely on the feedback and say so of Hue ... Dorsey may have watched the games since the discussions began - but it simply has to be Hue initiating this. It's good not only because Britt was a bad influence - it's good because it's a good start to a working relationship.

I agree with others - it's a bad reflection on Sashi that Hue must have wanted Britt gone, and Sashi wouldn't make a cut that would make his decision to sign Britt look bad. . . . I'm not as down on Sashi as many, but this here really looks bad on Sashi.


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Dorsey may have watched the games since the discussions began - but it simply has to be Hue initiating this. It's good not only because Britt was a bad influence - it's good because it's a good start to a working relationship.


This is the most important thing. We might actually have a coaching staff and GM who want to work together.

I pray that is true because that would be freaking huge!

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Kenny Britt was ridiculous to watch in practice. Constantly danced. In between every rep he was dancing to the music. I’ve never seen any player appear to care less. I could not believe Hue allowed it. It seems his hands are no longer tied.


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That had to drive Hue crazy. He's trying to keep his guys together and to keep them playing hard, and Sashi is undermining him by keeping a vet like Britt who was clearly a bad influence.

I am so glad both Sashi and Britt are gone.

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OmG. He killed kenny


Nice!!!!


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That had to drive Hue crazy. He's trying to keep his guys together and to keep them playing hard, and Sashi is undermining him by keeping a vet like Britt who was clearly a bad influence.

I am so glad both Sashi and Britt are gone.


Couldn't have Hue made Britt inactive on gamedays if he felt so strongly? Sashi had 53 man control but Hue set the game roster.

Either way, Britt deserves to be gone and this is a great move.

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cutting him this year instead of next I believe puts salary cap hit on this year and clear it for next year if I remember right


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That or just not called his number, right? If he was such a pain, then hue shouldn't have played him. Pettine did that with his malcontent.


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Kenny Britt was ridiculous to watch in practice. Constantly danced. In between every rep he was dancing to the music. I’ve never seen any player appear to care less. I could not believe Hue allowed it. It seems his hands are no longer tied.
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Kenny Britt was ridiculous to watch in practice. Constantly danced. In between every rep he was dancing to the music. I’ve never seen any player appear to care less. I could not believe Hue allowed it. It seems his hands are no longer tied.


I look at the signing of Britt and wonder what the hell was Sashi Brown thinking?..signing him?

I'm just guessing..but I doubt that Sashi did any homework on Britt, other than the 1002yds he put up in 2016.

Britt's off the field issues were known and finding out what kind of guy he was in the locker room and his off the field behavior/past trouble should have been easy to find out.

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Glad we cut Britt the Bust loose. If you insist on lousy, do it cheaper.

mac, we make a big deal of saying we have to see what we've got" and keep playing a gamekiller. But in this case, just seemed indifferent. One of Sashi's low points guys. What could he have seen? Selective blindness to issues? Just told to get one, spend a bunch after Pryor?

We need a few producers. Kizer won't give us what we need here as this development project continues his ways in the NFL. I want wins, but I also want respectability. Kizer has supplied neither yet.


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It'll be interesting if any other team gives him a shot


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Kenny Britt was ridiculous to watch in practice. Constantly danced. In between every rep he was dancing to the music. I’ve never seen any player appear to care less. I could not believe Hue allowed it. It seems his hands are no longer tied.
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You mean to tell me Britt was doing this?

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Are we actually sure this is a Hue move? Or would we just like to believe it was?

Hue is the one who allowed the dancing and set the example for it as illustrated.

I'm fine with letting Britt go because he wasn't performing well, but I think the timing has more to do with Gordon being back (and Coleman as well) than it does with Sashi forcing Hue to keep him. Feel free to blame the guy who's gone if it makes people feel better though.

It's a much easier move to make when you have two other functional NFL-caliber receivers available.

For all we know Sashi could have had the paperwork already drawn up. Dorsey hears Dwayne Bowe comparisons and that right there is good enough reason for him.


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did Dorsey draft Dwayne Bowe ... I'd have to imagine that Bowe was already there when he got to KC?


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I'm fine with letting Britt go because he wasn't performing well, but I think the timing has more to do with Gordon being back (and Coleman as well) than it does with Sashi forcing Hue to keep him. Feel free to blame the guy who's gone if it makes people feel better though.


Maybe we will find out more about the role Britt's conduct played in the decision to fire Sashi.

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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
That or just not called his number, right? If he was such a pain, then hue shouldn't have played him. Pettine did that with his malcontent.


I thought Britt was inactive for some games and also that his playing time was severely cut after it became clear he wasn't playing well? Is that wrong?

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Britt was part of the problem here. If your not a part of the solution then you are part of the problem.
Sashi Brown for being so "smart" appaarently wasnt smart enough to see what a cancer he was at his previous teams
Like I said when they signed him a 1000 yds doesn't make you a good wr
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Sashi signed Britt cause he's the smartest person than anyone else in the room.
Signing Britt passing on Wentz
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I like this guy already..Britt..wasted space..he sucks!


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The Browns WR situation was a tremendous case of mismanagement and I bet it contributed greatly to Sashi being let go.

I bet they all wanted to cut Britt but then who would start?

Louis and Higgins?

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I would put him in defensive line drills opposite bitionio

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Vou could have built a better roster than susie brown
Doesn't 1 and 27 resonate with you

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Originally Posted By: GrimmBrown


Are we actually sure this is a Hue move? Or would we just like to believe it was?



Well if this wasn't a Hue move - then all the joy over the acquisition of Dorsey and the idea that we have two guys who are of the same make up and mentality regards football, players and how to build the team just went out the window.

If Dorsey made this decision in isolation - without buy in and approval from Hue - then the new regime would be doomed instantly. I couldn't imagine a more contentious or inept start to his time with Cleveland. . . . And that's why I believe wholeheartedly this was what Hue wanted and asked for.


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Originally Posted By: BirdDawg81
Makes me wonder if Hue said "get this guy off the football team ASAP"


I think he's been a cancer to Hue's Locker room.
But until Coleman and Gordon came back he really had no choice.
A definite slacker glad Dorsey listened to Hue and did not hesitate to get rid of him...

I'm liking this guy and I think he and Hue are going to work great TOGETHER!


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