I really hope he doesn’t have “bad ankles” like Courtney had bad shoulders ...
That’d really STINK ...
Thus the reason I have called him Myles Brown before. His ankle problems in college and now in the pro's worry me. But I like the fact that he is playing through the pain, and not complaining or making any excuses.
It would. It's something that has been bothering me, but didn't want to vocalize.
I'm hoping they can heal in the off-season and not be an issue next year. Chronic ankle problems would be a real drag.
Keep in mind he played hurt all last year on the bad ankle...then went straight to Combine preparation. Then our camps...don't know if its the same ankle or not but even if it isn't I'm sure he's been over using the other ankle too so I can see it hurting..
My point is that finally he will have an OFF SEASON where hopefully he will spend a lot of time in Berea and we got an excellent Strength and Condition Staff... first finally let them heal (ankles) then a precise program to strengthen them. I don't think this is a case of Italian ankles...Fra-Gil-ee. Just the usual conditioning woes that rookies go through jmho
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The guys used to being a man among boys. He's now a man among men. He's got a film library now and hopefully he makes the best of it. Time will tell...
We've lost 2 of our best D players JC and Ogbah. It has to have some affect on MG's game. Heck we didn't even have Shelton in the GB game. Team can key on MG with so many of our better D players out.
While he did get double teamed a bit more than usual, he was not winning his one on one battles either
He gets held an awful lot too. Hundley (of all people ) was getting rid of the ball in about 2 seconds due to GW's Siberian-Outcast scheme. I could fall down in front of MG and 'hold him off' for 2 seconds. Of course, I would leave the filed on a stretcher after one play and poop stains on my pants...so there's that.
He wasn't getting much pressure. And there were plenty of plays where Hundley held the ball long enough for Myles and our other guys to pressure the qb.
I've been thinking about this a bit. We all said how good our Dline was going to be, but man, they don't pressure the qb very often and this is w/us blitzing a lot.
You're right, they have been somewhat disappointing in their pressures, especially for the number of times we blitz. On the other hand, it's difficult to get to the QB when they've figured out that three steps and a throw will beat pressure just about every time. My peeve is that GW's not adjusting to that. Even with our crappy corners, the D has more success stopping the pass when they play the WRs tight.
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PFF's latest on the top rookies from the 2017 class. Garrett checks in at #7.
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Out of 125 qualified edge defenders, Garrett is one of just 13 to be on the field for at least 100 snaps in run defense this season and not miss a tackle. The first overall pick ranks 14th among edge defenders this season in terms of overall grade and he places within the top-17 in both pass-rush grade (84.5, 17th) and run defense grade (86.0, 11th). Garrett has earned a grade of at least 74.0 in all but one game he’s played in (Week 10 in Detroit) and he’s also tallied at least three pressures in every game but one, the exception being a 19-snap debut in Week 5 against the New York Jets where he was still able to grab two sacks. After missing a good chunk of time to start the season, Garrett has been on the field for at least 70 percent of Cleveland’s defensive snaps in each of the last five games. Will be exciting to see if he can make a Foster-like run over the last three weeks of the season.
You're right, they have been somewhat disappointing in their pressures, especially for the number of times we blitz. On the other hand, it's difficult to get to the QB when they've figured out that three steps and a throw will beat pressure just about every time. My peeve is that GW's not adjusting to that. Even with our crappy corners, the D has more success stopping the pass when they play the WRs tight.
The single deep safety has a lot to do with that. Our corners and lbs have to cover larger areas in that scheme. An LB respecting the run, is going to give up those quick short passes every time.
PFF's latest on the top rookies from the 2017 class. Garrett checks in at #7.
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Out of 125 qualified edge defenders, Garrett is one of just 13 to be on the field for at least 100 snaps in run defense this season and not miss a tackle. The first overall pick ranks 14th among edge defenders this season in terms of overall grade and he places within the top-17 in both pass-rush grade (84.5, 17th) and run defense grade (86.0, 11th). Garrett has earned a grade of at least 74.0 in all but one game he’s played in (Week 10 in Detroit) and he’s also tallied at least three pressures in every game but one, the exception being a 19-snap debut in Week 5 against the New York Jets where he was still able to grab two sacks. After missing a good chunk of time to start the season, Garrett has been on the field for at least 70 percent of Cleveland’s defensive snaps in each of the last five games. Will be exciting to see if he can make a Foster-like run over the last three weeks of the season.
MG will be fine. First off I still don't think he is 100%. Secondly, he is the only player on D that our opponents have to plan for with all our injuries and thirdly, he is still learning. Let's not throw him under the bus. Please.
We were expecting more than fine from him. Our front seven is supposed to be good,so he should be dominant this year.
So far he's no Bosa or Kahlil
Bosa plays against right tackles and usually has Melvin Ingram as the other edge. They're fairly incomparable.
BTW, I recall people on the board saying they wouldn't take Bosa in Round One. "Experts" citing "pad level," or some damn thing. The guy is a beast and it was easy to see when he was a Buckeye.
Not even sure why it's a debate. Garret is just cracking the surface on what is going to be an impact full NFL career. Nassib is terrible and there was a noticeable awareness on Garret by offenses to double and chip when Ogbah went down.
Interesting to note browsing through PFF that Budda Baker and Desmond King rank highly - two guys a lot of us wanted in the draft and King went in the 5th to LAC. That was crazy. Either would have really helped our secondary.
Has to make you appreciate ALL that Joe Thomas has done for seemingly freaking forever. I hope MG can produce more for us, but part of that is Williams and having a couple other rushers around him who are sent to bring pressure.
Hope we cut it loose.
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I REALLY wanted King when he was still on the board ... that was one guy I was hoping we'd get
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
Forgive me for trying to find some semblance of hope for the Browns in what has been the bleakest of bleak seasons. Cleveland finally hit bottom in becoming the second team in league history to go 0-16, but the solace which might come with knowing the Browns have the first and fourth overall picks has to be tempered by the idea of Hue Jackson continuing to coach those draft picks.
The brightest light for the 2017 Browns, though, is the guy they chose with the first overall pick. It wouldn't have been easy to see unless you were a masochist who chose to watch the Browns on a weekly basis, but Myles Garrett is already a superstar. Garrett missed six games with various injuries, but he racked up seven sacks and 18 quarterback knockdowns in the 10 games he did play. Those are identical figures to what Brian Orakpo put together over a full 16-game campaign.
Project Garrett over a full season and you end up with 11 sacks and 29 knockdowns, the latter of which would have ranked third in the NFL. He's also doing this on a Browns team that had no second pass-rusher after Emmanuel Ogbah went down and faced just 525 pass attempts as opponents with leads ran out the clock. Plenty of pass-rushers make their hay by picking up sacks when they know the other team has to pass. The Browns haven't been in that situation once during Jackson's reign. Garrett is already a star, and he has the potential to be a top-three pass-rusher in the NFL if the Browns ever turn things around.
Thank goodness he is getting recognized for what he truly is, I heard to many posters calling him a bust all year, but I am glad he is a Cleveland Brown ...
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I don't know who called him a bust, know it wasn't me, wasn't on here much of the year. But i have the same questions i had about him at draft time last year. I knew he would be our pick, but questioned whether he took plays off and whether he could stay healthy. I still have those questions to some degree, but thought he had the season i expected.
Thank goodness he is getting recognized for what he truly is, I heard to many posters calling him a bust all year, but I am glad he is a Cleveland Brown ...
The kid is special beyond special. Couldn't be happier to have him in Cleveland.
Forgive me for trying to find some semblance of hope for the Browns in what has been the bleakest of bleak seasons. Cleveland finally hit bottom in becoming the second team in league history to go 0-16, but the solace which might come with knowing the Browns have the first and fourth overall picks has to be tempered by the idea of Hue Jackson continuing to coach those draft picks.
The brightest light for the 2017 Browns, though, is the guy they chose with the first overall pick. It wouldn't have been easy to see unless you were a masochist who chose to watch the Browns on a weekly basis, but Myles Garrett is already a superstar. Garrett missed six games with various injuries, but he racked up seven sacks and 18 quarterback knockdowns in the 10 games he did play. Those are identical figures to what Brian Orakpo put together over a full 16-game campaign.
Project Garrett over a full season and you end up with 11 sacks and 29 knockdowns, the latter of which would have ranked third in the NFL. He's also doing this on a Browns team that had no second pass-rusher after Emmanuel Ogbah went down and faced just 525 pass attempts as opponents with leads ran out the clock. Plenty of pass-rushers make their hay by picking up sacks when they know the other team has to pass. The Browns haven't been in that situation once during Jackson's reign. Garrett is already a star, and he has the potential to be a top-three pass-rusher in the NFL if the Browns ever turn things around.
Forgive me for trying to find some semblance of hope for the Browns in what has been the bleakest of bleak seasons. Cleveland finally hit bottom in becoming the second team in league history to go 0-16, but the solace which might come with knowing the Browns have the first and fourth overall picks has to be tempered by the idea of Hue Jackson continuing to coach those draft picks.
The brightest light for the 2017 Browns, though, is the guy they chose with the first overall pick. It wouldn't have been easy to see unless you were a masochist who chose to watch the Browns on a weekly basis, but Myles Garrett is already a superstar. Garrett missed six games with various injuries, but he racked up seven sacks and 18 quarterback knockdowns in the 10 games he did play. Those are identical figures to what Brian Orakpo put together over a full 16-game campaign.
Project Garrett over a full season and you end up with 11 sacks and 29 knockdowns, the latter of which would have ranked third in the NFL. He's also doing this on a Browns team that had no second pass-rusher after Emmanuel Ogbah went down and faced just 525 pass attempts as opponents with leads ran out the clock. Plenty of pass-rushers make their hay by picking up sacks when they know the other team has to pass. The Browns haven't been in that situation once during Jackson's reign. Garrett is already a star, and he has the potential to be a top-three pass-rusher in the NFL if the Browns ever turn things around.
A fully healthy combo of Ogbah and Garrett will be extremely tough to stop. Can't wait to see these guys continue to grow on the field together.
Ogbah's injury perfectly highlighted how important he was to this team. There was a significant decline with him out. He's one of those guys that makes a huge difference, even if it doesn't show up on the stat sheet.
Myles Garrett: I don't think there's much of a difference between me and the guys at the top
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I'm really, really hoping he stays healthy. It's the only thing keeping him from being an All Pro type player
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
John 3:16 Jesus said "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
) was getting rid of the ball in about 2 seconds due to GW's Siberian-Outcast scheme. I could fall down in front of MG and 'hold him off' for 2 seconds. Of course, I would leave the filed on a stretcher after one play and poop stains on my pants...so there's that.
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