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GM John Dorsey on QB Baker Mayfield (via @SI_PeterKing): “You’re darn right he’s a good quarterback, no matter how tall he is. Some would say he’s too short, but I would ask you: How tall is Russell Wilson? How tall is Chase Daniel?”

I am happy to hear this... doesn't mean we aren't going to draft Mayfield, but I'm happy to read that he's not relying on height as some would prefer.




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There has been a lot of trade discussion, but Dalton's name surprisingly hasn't come up much.

Trading for Dalton should not be an option. Signing him as a FA if he opts out could be in play.

God help us if they trade either of those 2 picks for Andy Dalton.

Everybody loves Josh Rosen; Cal has to stop UCLA QB

By Rusty Simmons Updated 7:06 pm, Wednesday, November 22, 2017

Football coaches and players don’t typically go out of their way to praise opponents — or even call them by name.

But No. 3 at UCLA isn’t your typical player.

Josh Rosen is among the the best college quarterbacks in the country and possesses a skill set so eye-popping that opponents have been unequivocal in praising the NFL’s potential No. 1 overall pick all season.

“That guy, he throws the football as well as any college quarterback I’ve ever competed against or coached against,” said Cal head coach Justin Wilcox, whose team will have to try to find a way to slow the prolific passer Friday in Pasadena. “If he knows where he’s going, and you’re not putting any pressure on him, he can throw it as well as anybody. … He’s just a unique guy in terms of how he can throw the football.”

Cal (5-6) goes into its regular-season finale needing a win to make itself bowl eligible. The Bears are 1-4 on the road and are 10th in the Pac-12 in passing defense, allowing 254.3 yards per game.

The Bears will mix and match coverages, so Rosen doesn’t see the same picture on each play. They’ll send different numbers of rushers and from different positions, in hopes of creating indecision in the 6-foot-4 junior.

Seemingly no plan has worked this season against Rosen, whose 351.5 passing yards per game rank second in the nation behind Oklahoma State’s Mason Rudolph (374.1). Rosen has a 144.0 passer rating, having completed 62.1 percent of his passes and having thrown 24 for touchdowns.

He’s coming off a 421-yard, three-touchdown performance against USC, extending his school records for 300- and 350-yard games to 17 and 11.

This month, head coach Jim Mora — fired Sunday by UCLA after its loss to USC — touted Rose un’s growth since arriving on campus and starting as a 17-year-old.

“Through the past couple of years, he’s just progressed so much on the field as a player and around our team as a leader,” Mora said. “That’s demonstrated in what he says, how he conducts his business, his attitude in meetings, his work ethic in practice, his accountability to his teammates and his willingness to step up after a tough loss and accept responsibility. He’s just doing everything the right way. Everything.…

“Guys like Josh are special. They don’t come around very often.”

The rest of Pac-12 recognizes it. Colorado head coach Mike MacIntyre joked that the only way to slow Rosen was to have him twist his ankle in pregame warm-ups.

“There’s no mistaking it: Josh Rosen has proven that he’s one of the best quarterbacks in the nation,” Stanford head coach David Shaw said. “He’s outstanding. He can make throws that other guys can’t make, and he’s been able to will them down the field.”

Arizona head coach Rich Rodriguez, who has faced Rosen three times, said, “He seems to get bigger and stronger every year. He was phenomenal as a freshman, and he’s an even better player now. There’s nothing he doesn’t do well. … I’m glad he’s eligible for the draft after this. He needs to go now.”

Says USC head coach Clay Helton, who has known Rosen since he played on a youth team with Helton’s son: “Being a quarterback coach by trade, it’s been very unique to be able to watch him grow up and become such a special player. … It’s neat to be able to watch guys playing at the highest level, and Josh is doing that.”

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Here is an interesting possibility. Dorsey has shown he'll trade for a QB, and Hue Jackson has too with the Palmer move. Hue also loves Andy Dalton, so I wonder if that will be considered an option.

There is a lot of talk the Bengals could move on from Marvin Lewis and the front office. Following a continued decline in play, it isn't unrealistic to assume Cincinnati could move on from Dalton.

This has been stirring lately, particularly with Dalton benched last week. The Bengals currently hold a top 10 selection, and CBSsports just did a mock in which they had the Bengals taking Mayfield at #9 to replace Dalton, with is far from the first trade/replace Dalton theory to hit the internet.

There is a potential out in Dalton's contract at the end of the season, but it is more likely he'd be traded with three years remaining on his contract.

I wonder if they would take the Texans selection for Dalton if it ends up being a top 3 selection. Houston is only one game behind the 49ers and Colts.

There has been a lot of trade discussion, but Dalton's name surprisingly hasn't come up much.

There are reasons for that.

Mayfield has shown he has talent.

The problem in looking at Mayfield are really related to the offense he played in.

When you watch OK the spread creates mismatches. Guys are are open like they will never be in the NFL. QB's coming from that offense put up video game numbers.

You can not view the numbers in a relative manner.

Hard to know if Mayfield can do what will asked of him in the NFL. Because he has never been asked to do that in college.

They do not play under center. No huddle. Plays come from the sidelines. They are not asked to call coverage or mike. They don't take 3, 5, 7 step drops where the steps are timed to receiver routes.

They are not asked to be in the pocket read the defense and throw to the correct matchup.

So all Mayfield has done in college in most cases is throw the ball to guys who are open (often open by 10 yards and more). It distorts ability.

That is not the fault of Mayfield. It simple means he will have a longer learning curve when coming to the NFL. It does not mean he can't be successful. It just makes it tougher. He has to be taught to play instead of building upon knowledge learned.

So right off he is behind Rosen, Darnold and Allen.

The off field incident and the crotch grab are not deal breakers. You would wish them to not be there but immaturity happens in youth.

In the end there just seems to be better options.

Talk about options!!!!!!!!!!!

What I would like to see.....
A) sign Alex Smith or Teddy B. to a 2/3 year contract. Continue to develop Kizer and draft Barkley and Fitzpatrick in the 1st.

Hopefully by year 2 Kizer has developed and he becomes a very good NFL QB. That would put DK as a 23/24 year old QB that is poised to put this franchise on his back and get us to the playoffs.

At the beginning of the year, I would not have said this. But we can not deny the strides DeShone has mad throughout the season.

B) Draft Rosen at number 1 as well as sign a veteran QB, Manning/ Bradford/ Keenum/ Foles/ McCarron or someone like that to compete with Kizer and Rosen for the starting job.

I will say that all 4 QB's Rosen/ Darnold/ Mayfield and Jackson all have arguments to be taken #1. Rosen seems to be the most polished and ready but I do not see too big of a drop off from the other three. Allen reminds me of Bortles but the measurements are there.

Those are my top 2 options. However I do not feel Dorsey will pass on a QB at #1. and whoever he takes I will definitely be on board with. I don't think we can afford to trade out of the #1 spot due to the trading down the last 2 years. I would not be shocked to see us move into the first round for a third pick as we have the draft capital to make it happen.

Overall, this season is almost over and it will be very exciting to see if Dorsey can turn this ship around with solid FA signings and the best draft in Browns history.

More like God help them...