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If Dorsey gets Barkley and Mayfield with the 1st 2 picks, gets rid of Hue, now we can win the AFC north!! Go Browns!


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Former NFL linebacker sums up the Browns' coaching problems with one play

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/12/nfl-browns-coach-hue-jackson-bad-kieth-bulluck

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There were plenty of other bad coaching examples from Sunday’s Browns-Ravens. Like this oddly designed play where all of the routes seem to converge on one another…

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Or this play-call sequence…

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Or the decision to go away from the running game with a struggling rookie behind center…

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Browns had 108 rushing yards at the half and ended with 130 for the game.

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New Browns GM John Dorsey said the last front office did not get Hue Jackson “real players,” but it’s possible that those players just weren’t getting real coaching.

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Is Dorsey right? Examining whether Browns got any 'real players' under Sashi Brown

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news...er-sashi-brown/

Another Sunday, another game in which the Browns hung around with a superior opponent before having their flaws exposed en route to another loss.

It was the first defeat for Cleveland's new general manager John Dorsey. But of course no one's blaming him for the team moving to 0-14 after his first week on the job.

Last Thursday, Dorsey blasted his predecessor Sashi Brown and the players he acquired during his two-offseason stint as GM of the Browns. This, from Will Brinson's article on Dorsey's comments:

"You know what? You've got to get a guy like [Hue Jackson] players," Dorsey said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain-Dealer. "And you know what? I'll come straight out with it. The guys who were here before, that system, they didn't get real players."

Whoa. "Didn't get any real players." Harsh.


Is Dorsey right though? Did Sashi Brown fail in his acquisition of players, especially in the draft?

Looking back on Brown's two draft classes -- in 2016 and '17 -- remarkably, two clear-cut themes emerge. Let's examine to come to a conclusion of whether or not Dorsey's pointed words were spot on or undeservedly critical.

Browns' 2016 Draft Class
Name

Round

Overall Pick

Position

Corey Coleman

1

15

WR

Emmanuel Ogbah

2

32

DE

Carl Nassib

3

65

DE

Shon Coleman

3

76

OT

Cody Kessler

3

93

QB

Joe Schobert

4

99

OLB

Ricardo Louis

4

114

WR

Derrick Kindred

4

129

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Seth DeValve

4

138

TE

Jordan Payton

5

154

WR

Spencer Drango

5

168

OG

Rashard Higgins

5

172

WR

Trey Caldwell

5

173

DB

Scooby Wright

7

250

ILB

Theme: Elite Collegiate Production
Corey Coleman: In his final two collegiate seasons -- 2014 and 2015 -- Coleman had the fifth-most receiving yards (2,482) and the most receiving touchdowns (31) in the country. In his final season at Baylor, he finished with a whopping 36.2 market share of the team's receiving yards -- anything above 30 percent is good -- and 45.4 percent of the market share for receiving touchdowns, an even more astounding number.

Emmanuel Ogbah: In 2014 and '15 combined, he finished second in the country (behind only ... Myles Garrett) in sacks (21.5) and 12th in tackles for loss (31.0).


Carl Nassib: Your college football (FBS) sack leader in 2015 was -- you guessed it -- Nassib, the Browns' first of a trio of third-round picks in the 2016 draft. The Penn State star had -- depending where you look -- either 15.5 or 16 sacks in his last year with the Nittany Lions. Either figure won him the sack title.

Cody Kessler: From 2014 to 2015, Kessler finished second only to Western Kentucky'sBrandon Doughty in completion percentage (68.3 to 69.9) among quarterback's who started both those seasons. The USC star's 68 touchdowns over that two-season stretch was third to Doughty and ... Jared Goff.

Joe Schobert: Finished sixth in tackles for loss in 2015 with 20 (tied with Nassib). And in his final two years at Wisconsin, his 31 tackles for loss ranked 13th in the country.

Derrick Kindred: Combining his 2014 and 2015 seasons at TCU, the safety had 161 tackles, eight tackles for loss, and six interceptions. Only five other players in the country hit all three of those benchmarks during that time.


Jordan Payton: His 145 catches placed him 12th and his 2,059 yards placed him 19th in receiving yards in the country when combining the 2014 and 2015 seasons.

Rashard Higgins: In 2014, he led the country in receiving yards (1,750) and receiving touchdowns (17). Higgins finished with the second-most receiving yards (2,811), third-most receiving touchdowns (25), and fifth-most receptions (170) in 2014 and 2015 combined.

Trey Caldwell: One of five players in the country in 2015 with at least 50 tackles, five tackles for loss and 10 pass breakups.

Scooby Wright: In 2014, he led the nation in tackles (164) and tackles for loss (31).


The term "box-score scouting" has a deep, negative connotation in the scouting community, as it insinuates film wasn't watched before forming an opinion on a prospect.

However, "box-score scouting" does have a place in prospect evaluation. It's part of the full equation. Most quality NFL players were productive in college. The "low-production, high-potential" prospects typically have steep learning curves at the pro level and more often than not fall short of perceived expectations.

The above rundown could easily suggest the Browns simply glanced at box scores to determine their selections. But, of course, it's a near certainty Cleveland's Sashi Brown-run front office watched plenty of film during the draft process.

Determining which stat lines will translate to the NFL level is the difficulty of factoring in the box-score aspect of a prospect evaluation. In the end, not all 16-sack seasons are created equal nor do they indicate the same level of NFL success for every defensive end.


Therefore, on the surface, prioritizing collegiate production -- which is seemingly what the Browns did -- is logical but, just like film, can't be the driving force behind a draft-day decision.

Browns' 2017 Draft Class
Name

Round

Overall Pick

Position

Myles Garrett

1

1

DE

Jabrill Peppers

1

25

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David Njoku

1

29

TE

DeShone Kizer

2

52

QB

Larry Ogunjobi

3

65

DT

Howard Wilson

4

126

DB

Roderick Johnson

5

160

OT

Caleb Brantley

6

185

DT

Zane Gonzalez

7

224

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Matthew Dayes

7

252

RB

Theme: Explosive Athleticism
Myles Garrett: Among defensive ends at the combine starting in 1999, Garrett finished in the 88th percentile in the 40-yard dash, 94th percentile in the bench press, 96th percentile in the broad jump, and the 98th percentile in the vertical jump. He has a good argument for the most impressive combine performance ever.

Jabrill Peppers: Among safeties, his broad jump placed him in the 93rd percentile. His 40-yard dash was in the 90th percentile.

David Njoku: The University of Miami tight end placed in the 75th percentile or higher in the following combine events: Three-cone drill (80th), broad jump (98th), vertical jump (90th), 40-yard dash (79th).


Larry Ogunjobi: The UNC-Charlotte product placed in the 65th percentile or higher in the three-cone drill (67th), broad jump (96th), vertical jump (80th), 40-yard dash (78th).

Howard Wilson: Despite a 4.57 in the 40 that ranked in the 24th percentile among cornerbacks, Wilson posted a three-cone in the 90th percentile and a 20-yard shuttle in the 92nd percentile.

*all percentiles are among players at the same position at the combine starting in 1999.

It's not as if the Browns completely abandoned their emphasis on collegiate production, but it certainly didn't play nearly as big of a role in Cleveland's draft class of 2017 as it did in 2016.


Picking Peppers in Round 1 to play safety after just one interception in three seasons at Michigan is the clearest sign of that.

Ogunjobi amassed 29 tackles for loss in two years at UNC-Chartlotte but had just 5.5 sacks from his interior defensive line spot.

Njoku averaged a hefty 16.6 yards per reception in two years with the Hurricanes, yet his combine performance stood out slightly more than his production with Miami.

In an ideal world, a team would pick players who displayed elite production and explosive, twitchy athleticism at the collegiate level. Garrett is a prime example of that. His athleticism is otherworldly plus he had 47 tackles for loss and 31 sacks in three seasons at Texas A&M. Ridiculous. Njoku did have 43 receptions for 698 yards with eight scores in his final season at Miami, so he would be labeled as another prospect who checked both the production and athleticism boxes.


Unsurprisingly, Garrett has been outstanding when he has been healthy as a rookie, leading the team with five sacks. Njoku, as a 21 year old, is third on the Browns in all major receiving categories.

On the other hand, Peppers is currently Pro Football Focus' fourth-lowest graded safety out of 86 qualifiers at the position.

Of Cleveland's 2016 draft class, Nassib (4.5 sacks on 1,109 career snaps), Schobert (flipped to inside linebacker), and Higgins (28 receptions, 301 yards and no TDs on 755 career snaps) tested relatively poorly at the combine and have struggled in the NFL. The same goes for Payton and Wright, both of whom have already been released by the Browns.

Ogbah, Coleman and Kindred, who checked the production and athleticism boxes, have been bright spots for Cleveland, although Ogbah is currently sidelined with injury.

I would be remiss if I didn't mention the quarterbacks drafted during the short-lived Sashi era -- Kessler and Kizer. Obviously, athleticism doesn't come into play nearly as much at their position as it does for other spots on the field. However, it's fascinating how polar opposite the two were as prospects.

Kessler clearly checked the "elite production" box, but at 6-feet-1 and 220 pounds with a below-average arm and limited ability to elude oncoming pass-rushers, lacking the physical tools needed to play quarterback at the pro level has held him back. Also, he threw 1,261 passes and entered the NFL just shy of his 23rd birthday.

Meanwhile, the 6-4, 233-pound Kizer with a rocket arm completed less than 59 percent of his passes in his final year at Notre Dame and saw his yards-per-attempt average and collegiate quarterback rating drop in 2016 from 2015. He made 695 attempts with the Fighting Irish and was 20 years old for the duration of his last year in South Bend.

Conclusion
How Brown addressed the quarterback spot is a microcosm of his two draft classes. They were too one-sided in their underlying philosophies, and those philosophies appeared to shift from 2016 to 2017.

The few players with high marks in 2016's possible philosophy (elite production) and 2017's possible philosophy (explosive athleticism) have performed well early in their NFL careers. In Garrett, Ogbah, Coleman, Ogunjobi, Njoku and Kindred, the Browns got sound building blocks from Brown's time in Cleveland.

However, in Dorsey's defense, Brown probably should have hit on a few more of the 24 selections he made in 2016 and '17. If he had done that, Dorsey probably wouldn't be the Browns' GM right now.


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actually brown only needed to hit on one other pick to still be here. If he had taken Carson Wentz instead of trading down everything would be different.

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actually brown only needed to hit on one other pick to still be here. If he had taken Carson Wentz instead of trading down everything would be different.


Hue Jackson explains why Browns passed on Carson Wentz

http://theeagleswire.usatoday.com/2016/09/08/hue-jackson-explains-why-browns-passed-on-carson-wentz/

Hue Jackson is known for his outstanding work with quarterbacks. The Cleveland Browns were in the position to take either Jared Goff or Carson Wentz with the No.2 overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft.

Once the Los Angeles Rams traded up to the No.1 spot and made their intentions of selecting Goff clear, it became obvious that the Browns would select Wentz with the No.2 pick. Jackson was the only head coach at Wentz’s workout at North Dakota State because of weather.

As it turned out, what seemed like the obvious choice wasn’t so obvious to Jackson and the Browns.

“At the time, he wasn’t the right fit for us,” Jackson said on a conference call on Wednesday. “I think Carson will have a bright future, and we decided to go in a different direction. We evaluated him as a really good player.”

There were some who believed that having played at the FCS level was a knock on Wentz because of the level of competition that he faced. Jackson wasn’t one of them.

“I don’t think his school had much to do with it,” Jackson said. “He is in Philadelphia, and he is going to do great things there.”

Then there were the comments by Browns chief strategy officer Paul DePodesta. DePodesta said he didn’t feel that any of the quarterbacks in the 2016 Draft class would be a top 20 quarterback, and that is why the Browns traded out of the No.2 pick.

As the head coach, Jackson knew he would have to answer questions about that statement and he was ready for them when they came.

“It is hard for me to say that[Wentz won’t be a top 20 quarterback],” Jackson said. “Wentz can be whatever he wants to be. He is going to be very good player. It will take time before the decision that we did or anyone else did comes to fruition. We just have to let it all play out, and we will see how it goes.”

The decision that Jackson was referring to is how the Browns decided to go with Robert Griffin III instead of Wentz. It’s a decision that some feel was a foolish one, but the Browns as an organization feel the two were a perfect match.

“We saw that he[Griffin] was very talented,” Jackson said. “He played some games in the NFL and had some success. He needed an opportunity; we had an opportunity here, and the fit was right for us, so we made that choice.”

Griffin is pleased to have Jackson as his coach and feels he will benefit from working with him.

“He is extremely clear of what he expects and what he wants,” Griffin said. “He won’t put you in a position where you will be compromised. He will allow you to do the things that you do well and coach you up on the things you don’t do well so they become your strength. He is consistent, motivating and hard on me. He wants me to be great.”

Things have come full circle since the blockbuster deal between the Eagles and Browns. There is no turning back now. The decision was made and Griffin is the starter.

Ironically, circumstances dictate his first start to be against Wentz and the Eagles. Jackson doesn’t have any regrets about their choice to move forward with Griffin.

“There weren’t any sleepless nights,” Jackson said. “We felt comfortable with what we did, where we are headed and what we are trying to accomplish. We understand it is a process, and we will work our plan the best we can.”

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The Browns have very few players who can put 5 to 8 good/ great games in a row
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Who are the Browns players week in week out who can grade out at 80 to 95 percent ?
Zeitler Bitinio that's it
Maybe Ogbah
When Dorsey said real players
He meant guys that are consistant week to week with high grades
Not guys that have a big game and disappear for weeks at a time
Sissy Brown has sent this team backwards with his failed roster moves

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I don't know if anyone heard the comments Sunday, but according to one of the game announcers (blanking on who it was) Dorsey qualified his statement about the previous regime not getting real players. He said he meant that they did not bring in enough good players, that there were some good players here but they needed to add more to fill out the roster.

We knew the qualification was coming. It was only a matter of time. We'll probably get this a lot from our unfiltered GM. Personally, I like a complete lack of BS.


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I don't know if anyone heard the comments Sunday, but Dorsey qualified his statement about the previous regime not getting real players. He said he meant that they did not bring in enough good players, that there were some good players here but they needed add more to fill out the roster.

We knew the qualification was coming. It was only a matter of time. We'll probably get this a lot from our unfiltered GM. Personally, I like a complete lack of BS.


Sounds like some serious backtracking here. And rightfully so...


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Yeah, I don't think he meant to say anything insulting directed at our players or the previous regime. I believe he was speaking more to the state of affairs in general. Just my take.


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Yeah, I don't think he meant to say anything insulting directed at our players or the previous regime. I believe he was speaking more to the state of affairs in general. Just my take.


Agreed. I don't believe it was deliberately malicious, more like a lack of thought...


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Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.

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Too bad our speech doesn't have auto-correct like our phones. That could be hilarious.


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Originally Posted By: CalDawg
I don't know if anyone heard the comments Sunday, but according to one of the game announcers (blanking on who it was) Dorsey qualified his statement about the previous regime not getting real players. He said he meant that they did not bring in enough good players, that there were some good players here but they needed to add more to fill out the roster.

We knew the qualification was coming. It was only a matter of time. We'll probably get this a lot from our unfiltered GM. Personally, I like a complete lack of BS.


Lack of BS.... and not a single word to the wonder SB Coach..

Its more like a mountain of BS, in my eyes....

Mountain of BS and the lack of an ounce of common sense...

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https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/12/1..._source=twitter

Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.


Well this league is about parity, so the Browns will be one of the very few teams to ever select 1st in 2 consecutive drafts.

Hue Jackson will be the first coach in history to do it....

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Anybody else find it odd that the new GM is tip toeing around any questions about Hue Jackson being back next year?

I'm probably reading into to it too much because I want Jackson fired, but it seems weird:

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“Hue and I have a really good relationship,” Dorsey said on the Bull and the Fox show. “First off, I think ownership has said that Hue would be back. With that, I’m excited to work with him here. I’ve been really impressed with how Hue messages to the player. I’ve always thought that head coaches should be leader of men, and when I watch Hue talk to the team and how hard guys play for him, that’s exciting.


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Asked if Jackson is 100 percent going to be the coach of the Browns in Week 1 of the 2018 season, Dorsey said, “I think ownership has already spoken on that question.” Dorsey then gave the same answer when asked if Jackson would remain the coach if it were the GM’s choice.


Dorsey also walked back his comments about not having "real players":

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Last week, Dorsey defended Jackson by saying Brown didn’t acquire “real players” for the coach. Yet Dorsey backtracked Tuesday and said he doesn’t take shots at previous regimes.

“I am not a professional wordsmith. I’m a football guy, OK?” Dorsey said. “My intent was to say we don’t have enough good football players. There’s some good football players on this team, and if I have my way, we’ll get more football players. We’ll create that competitive depth at every position that you do in order to succeed.

“Are there some good, young football players on this team? You bet there are. But you know what? We’re going to get some more football players on this team, and we’re going to get some W’s here, too.”


It's a good, informative read all around.

https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns...o-work-with-him

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Glad you finally came clean.

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Glad you finally came clean.


Does he have a say?

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https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/12/1..._source=twitter

Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.


Well this league is about parity, so the Browns will be one of the very few teams to ever select 1st in 2 consecutive drafts.

Hue Jackson will be the first coach in history to do it....


The Tennessee Titans did it 2015 - 2016. In 2015, they chose Marcus Mariota. They traded the pick in 2016 to the Rams. The Rams chose Jared Goff.


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Mariota was the second overall pick. Winston went first to the Buccs.

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Well this league is about parity, so the Browns will be one of the very few teams to ever select 1st in 2 consecutive drafts.

Hue Jackson will be the first coach in history to do it....



If Hue plays his cards right he could do it for a third consecutive time.

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Are you rooting against the Browns just because of Hue?

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You are right .. I stand corrected .. Here's the list ...

Cleveland 1999 - 2000 ( 1999 was expansion draft )
Cincinnati 1994 - 1995
Tampa Bay 1986 - 1987
Tampa Bay 1976 - 1977
Chicago Cardinals 1936 -1937


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Originally Posted By: rastanplan
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/12/1..._source=twitter

Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.


Well this league is about parity, so the Browns will be one of the very few teams to ever select 1st in 2 consecutive drafts.

Hue Jackson will be the first coach in history to do it....


David Shula was the Bengals coach in 1994 and 1995

John MacKay was Tampa head coach on 1976 - 77, but 1976 was expansion year, and had different coaches in 1986 - 87

So.. Hue will not be the first head coach to do it.





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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/12/1..._source=twitter

Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.




This is no longer true. Schobert is a pro bowler. As is Bitonio.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/12/1..._source=twitter

Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.




This is no longer true. Schobert is a pro bowler. As is Bitonio.


They are alternates.

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Schobert is an alternate for Shazier. Highly doubt Shazier will play.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
Schobert is an alternate for Shazier. Highly doubt Shazier will play.


An alternate is now a Pro Bowler. He is an alternate.

(That was my last comment about the Pro Bowl because it is basically meaningless and I actually don't care about it.)

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/12/1..._source=twitter

Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.




This is no longer true. Schobert is a pro bowler. As is Bitonio.


The author doesn't count alternatives as true pro bowl players. Simien was an alternative last year.

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https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/12/1..._source=twitter

Browns are 1 of 3 teams to not have a pro bowl player drafted* between 2012 through 2017.

*They don't count Tashaun Gipson as a UDFA and I guess they're not counting josh gordon being picked in the sup draft either.




This is no longer true. Schobert is a pro bowler. As is Bitonio.


The author doesn't count alternatives as true pro bowl players. Simien was an alternative last year.




I don't think you guys are following. Schobert is an alternate for Shazier. Shazier most likely isn't going to play. Schobert is a pro bowler (unless he gets hurt).

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Does he have a say?


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What is he wearing?

Is he wearing a t-shirt over a collared shirt?

How can expect this person to make good decisions if he dresses like this?

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There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15


What is he wearing?

Is he wearing a t-shirt over a collared shirt?

How can expect this person to make good decisions if he dresses like this?


We're so screwed.

Although, it's not as bad as McAdoo's first press conference as the Giants' HC when he wore a dress shirt and the neck size was fives times bigger than it should have been. You could have fit another McAdoo in there.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15


What is he wearing?

Is he wearing a t-shirt over a collared shirt?

How can expect this person to make good decisions if he dresses like this?


He's too busy concentrating on FA and the Draft to worry about how he looks. He managed to dig a Browns T-shirt out of the hamper and throw it on. Good enough for me. thumbsup


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What is he wearing?

Is he wearing a t-shirt over a collared shirt?

How can expect this person to make good decisions if he dresses like this?


He's too busy concentrating on FA and the Draft to worry about how he looks. He managed to dig a Browns T-shirt out of the hamper and throw it on. Good enough for me. thumbsup


It looks like that's exactly what he did... :-p I love it.


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It looks like a t-shirt style from the early 2000s. Maybe he was a fan all this time?

It also looks like Hue is ready to go to the club after practice is over. #Stylin&Profilin


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What is he wearing?

Is he wearing a t-shirt over a collared shirt?

How can expect this person to make good decisions if he dresses like this?


This should clear up any questions...

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I love how John Dorsey has a very specific style and design of crewneck sweatshirt that he prefers



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So this is a regular thing? Oh dear god. rofl j/k


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