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For the first time in a long time, I didn’t ask for any Browns gear for Christmas.

This game was ugly from the jump. The pick 6 that got called back due to Nassib being offsides pretty much sums up the game.

Kizer once again confirms that he isn’t the answer.

Bring on the beat down next week! 0-16! Congratulations Jimmy Haslam! You finally got something you deserve you lying scumbag thief! LOL

He is the answer if the question is, what do you dislike more than haggis?

I secretly think haslam and Dorsey are hoping cincy comes calling for hue

OHHHH AND FIFTEEN!!! is a reality.

1-30!! Yep! It's in the 30's now!

This may be true...

Hue and Kizer are both in over their heads. I understand Kizer but Hue comes with so many accolades. Even with this talent two wins shouldn't have been impossible. QB position has been a farce no matter who made the personnel decisions.

Kizer is the same qb today that he was in college. He's learned nothing being thrown to the wolves as he has been. That's unfortunate, he may be toast as I don't know that an offseason will be a benefit to his game.

Nassib....needs beat about the head and shoulders he had a bad game. He can make plays but today his offsides was COSTLY.

I think Hue should be about done as a head coach here. Keeping him just to be consistent is a bogus reason. I can't think of anything he's done this season that I can hang my hat on and say he needs another year.

It's been a year since the Browns have had a win!

December 13th 2015 since a win on a Sunday.

If Hue comes back, and if Rosen is the pick.


It may be the same story 365 days from now, it may then be

3 years since the Browns will have had a win on a Sunday.

What’s funny is SF was just like us. They get a qb and voila and they start winning immediately. If course shanahan is a million times the playcaller Hue is but still, JG changed their fortunes. It’s why I’d go hard after cousins

Isaiah Crowell and Duke Johnson combined for 2 second half carries.

Inexcusable on a blustery day!
Need a big back for this weather to pound away!

They broke Kizer.

Damn them.

Let's break Rosen next.

How can you not like Haggis?? Serious question. It's lovely!

Felt like they quit after that play.

My bro wants to go to that pity party parade lol.

What is Hue Jacksons' Ceiling?

He just said we are going to get this fixed. Nobody had a chance to follow up with,
" Coach, what will it look like when it is fixed?"

I need this poster

I don't disagree. I'd have kept Brock AND played him until/if someone came calling and then it would have been Kesslers show.

For me the jury is still out on Hogan. He doesn't have the experience Kizer has at this point. Kizer however shows that every knock on him out of college is indeed fact. We're a mess...still.

I was all for keeping Hue, but at this point I think a coaching change would not set this team back. They are pitiful. They are undisciplined, and show no signs of improvement. To me that is coaching.

What Saschi Brown did to this roster is unforgivable. Dorsey nailed it when he said they did draft good players. Passing on good talent and filling the roster with 3rd and 4th tier players has produce this spectacle.

As for Hue being able to win with a better roster, I'm not believing it anymore.

Williams pass defense is the reason of many of these losses. Teams run screens over and over and he does nothing to stop it.

Peppers is just as bad in the box as he is 20 yards deep. Kizer can't hit the broad side of a barn. I see no way he can fix his accuracy. Even his completions today were very sketchy throws. I would be happy to never see this kid play another game. A QB in the NFL who is inaccurate is a failure.

I think next week should be it for Kizer starting (thank God), unless they keep him as a backup, which I think they will.

My Post Game thoughts....how can you sell a 1-31 coach returning after going 0-16? Bring back a staff who’s team looks so underprepared week in and week out? Pick 6 called back because someone lined up offsides!? Come on how does that happen week 15?

Fire them all Let Dorsey pick HIS coach, that way next year isn’t wasted after we fire Hue when he starts out 0-4/0-5.

It was criminal. He should have to stand some sort of trial.

But he'll be smiling somewhere when the Browns turn it around!

Sashi is a badass.

Can't fix stupid either. Him forcing that ball down the sideline to Gordon on the stop and go route after the DB didn't bite on the pump fake infuriated me. Even more so when Kizer started complaining about it to Hue on the sideline.

that should be a bill board in Cleveland !

Because Kizer had the hot hand. This game just dumbed down to him, like he is the lowest common denominator. Kizer was appalling, and when it gets rough, his decisions get worse. So what could I see that he has learned from earlier? Not much. Think he will start next week? I do not. Just so horrible. Like Hue and Kizer have their own little side game going in a world of two. Poor game, almost no runs in second half.

that was another miserable game.

we've been down so many roads as browns fans, and we are at a crossroads again. We've been down the one where the new GM is saddled with the old coach, and all that did was delay the reset button a year. We've hired the head coach before the GM, and of course that was a backwards idea. Everyone but Haslam seemed to know that. If Jimmy has figured out anything, and i think that is a big IF, he needs to let Dorsey do what he thinks is best- with no strings attached. If Dorsey wants his own coach, so be it.

Hue is a joke, more convinced of that then ever. He did a terrible job of developing the young guys. Its a myth that young can't win in the NFL. We've been duped into believing it.

This next draft is so important, it's basically two drafts in one, with top of the round picks. This is a better situation then what the original expansion franchises got- we can be competitive in a hurry.

Gotta get a bigger float but JFF up front is money!

Does anyone know why Nasib got the unsportsmanlike penalty in the 1st quarter?

They should make Nassib walk home.

I have to disagree. I blame Kizer's playing ability (or lack thereof) on himself. He came as advertised and except for a couple of games this season he doesn't seem to get any better at all.

As someone posted above, Kizer shows that every knock on him out of college is indeed fact.

He looks the part and has a strong arm, but that's about it.

When the Factor of Sadness gives way to the Parade of Disaster. 0 & 16? Here we come.

I disagree with your disagreement.

Nobody is Peyton Manning right out of college.

Everybody needs at least some time to develop.

They need coaches who know how to develop them. Hue clearly doesn't.

After 20 failed QBs, I have to think something stinks in Cleveland.

They broke him.

Fixed it.

Worst game I've seen in a long, long time. Now that the tear down has begun we can look forward to this crap fest to continue for the foreseeable future. Kizer showed absolutely nothing today. It was like he was brain dead. Nassib and Peppers lining up offsides, brain dead. Take a look to the right and see where the ball is, not doing that is just plain stupid. Oh, and how about Luis backing away from a punted ball that is losing yardage, then on another punt standing over a punt returner after he falls but fails to touch him down? This is a team owned, run, coached, and played by morons. We'll end up with Mayfield instead of a real NFL calibre QB and on and on it goes. I am so sick of this [censored] show.

J/c

My only thought is we locked up the 1st pick ..... lets hope that don’t chase all the qb’s back to school ....

I stayed with Hue as long as I could. You simply cannot keep a guy who gets worse after 1-15. You can't say it ruins consistency, or stops some sort of trajectory.
We have some pieces, a competent GM and a ton of picks. We have nowhere to go but up. But it has to be with a new coach and a new QB.
My vote is for Jeff Fisher and Josh Rosen.

It won't chase them all

-Kizer was horrible again. I think he is just dumb, he's never going to get it. Crow owes him a punch in the back of the head for all those passes he got hung out to dry on.

-Our secondary still horrible they continue to get picked apart. It's blitz or die.

-We ran the ball until dumb mistakes took us out of the game.

-We have too many dumb players on our roster to win games. Nassib cost us points, Higgins cost us points, Kizer cost us points. Nassib and Peppers lined up on their offsides penalties, how can you not know where your at. Peppers was a full yard over the line, you can blame coaching for discipline but you can't fix dumb.

-Not sure what we did right today, looked like they quit after the Nassib penalty called back the TD.

-3 freaking points of offense. LoL, help us John Dorsey!