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Haslam talking to the media:

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#Browns owner Jimmy Haslam said John Dorsey knew Hue Jackson would remain coach when Dorsey took the GM job: "I told him that Hue was going to be our head coach. There was not a lot of debate going back and forth."


https://twitter.com/NateUlrichABJ/status/947595698538778625

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Watch Dorsey bail. It'd be very Brownish. Haslam is a meddler. IF it's to be Hue and Dorsey shut up, get out and let them lead the team. Defer all questions to them. Haslam didn't build Pilot and he isn't worth a poop with his toy franchise!

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Originally Posted By: 1oldMutt
Watch Dorsey bail. It'd be very Brownish. Haslam is a meddler. IF it's to be Hue and Dorsey shut up, get out and let them lead the team. Defer all questions to them. Haslam didn't build Pilot and he isn't worth a poop with his toy franchise!


He knew what he was getting into.

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Watch Dorsey bail. It'd be very Brownish. Haslam is a meddler. IF it's to be Hue and Dorsey shut up, get out and let them lead the team. Defer all questions to them. Haslam didn't build Pilot and he isn't worth a poop with his toy franchise!


He knew what he was getting into.


Maybe to an extent. Inside the office might have revealed much more. Haslam should still shut up and get out of the way. That kind of ownership has never proven productive.

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Watch Dorsey bail. It'd be very Brownish. Haslam is a meddler. IF it's to be Hue and Dorsey shut up, get out and let them lead the team. Defer all questions to them. Haslam didn't build Pilot and he isn't worth a poop with his toy franchise!


He knew what he was getting into.


Maybe to an extent. Inside the office might have revealed much more. Haslam should still shut up and get out of the way. That kind of ownership has never proven productive.


It sounds like Haslam told him was keeping Hue Jackson before he was hired.

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he did.


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Our only hope is the Bengals swooping in.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Our only hope is the Bengals swooping in.


What's the contract numbers for Hue? Mike Brown only cares about getting the cheapest deal.

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Our only hope is the Bengals swooping in.


What's the contract numbers for Hue? Mike Brown only cares about getting the cheapest deal.


I don't think we know them. Contract details for coaches are hard to come by.

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Our only hope is the Bengals swooping in.


What's the contract numbers for Hue? Mike Brown only cares about getting the cheapest deal.
I think it is 5 mil for 3 more years.


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Even better. Lying about dollar amounts is right up Haslam's alleyway. Mike Brown's cheap enough to probably accept a rebate from him as well.

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5 million a year for 3 more years...


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Our only hope is the Bengals swooping in.


What's the contract numbers for Hue? Mike Brown only cares about getting the cheapest deal.


Even if Mike Brown can get Hue Jackson, which I don't think is likely, it would probably cheaper to pay him and not have to fire all the assistant coaches.

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i can't find his contract details anywhere.


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Originally Posted By: dawgpound101
i can't find his contract details anywhere.


The only thing I know for sure is that he signed a four year deal with an option for year five (I don't know who decides on the option).

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Originally Posted By: dawgpound101
i can't find his contract details anywhere.
This is just hearsay from the smart guys on here!


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the only thing I can find is his net worth...$5million


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If Hue is NOT gone, All hope is!

Is there any way to send a message to the team owners that the losingest coach is the problem and if he doesn't go nobody should support your team in any way?

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Bring back Butch Davis, at least he won more than 1 game.

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Bring back Butch Davis, at least he won more than 1 game.


Winningest coach since our return.

Shoot - as bad as he was as a GM - his tenure was also the most successful of any GM we've had since our return!


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name one coach who could win with Kizer year one?...don't worry I'll wait.


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Maybe Dorsey is okay keeping Hue because it sets the clock running on his rebuild a year from now instead of today. They might manage 3-13 next year, and he can then bring in his own coach and be pretty secure in the trajectory. Just a thought.

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Originally Posted By: dawgpound101
name one coach who could win with Kizer year one?...don't worry I'll wait.


Win what? More than zero games?

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Maybe Dorsey is okay keeping Hue because it sets the clock running on his rebuild a year from now instead of today. They might manage 3-13 next year, and he can then bring in his own coach and be pretty secure in the trajectory. Just a thought.


Dorsey is okay keeping Huebris because he is getting paid to do so.

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with Kizer? yes, year one...who?


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Originally Posted By: dawgpound101
with Kizer? yes, year one...who?


Lots of coaches. Literally. Coaches who aren't even in the league.

Putting all of the blame of this season on Kizer is ignorant.

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watching Kizer all year and thinking another HC would have won with him is ignorant.


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Originally Posted By: dawgpound101
watching Kizer all year and thinking another HC would have won with him is ignorant.


One game? Is Bill Belichick still alive?

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give it to me bro. which one of all these phantom HC's would have won with Kizer.

I am a man lol I can take it...which one? of the many?


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Originally Posted By: dawgpound101
give it to me bro. which one of all these phantom HC's would have won with Kizer.

I am a man lol I can take it...which one? of the many?


Is this a real thing that people believe or are you the only one?

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ok so you're saying that BB would make Kizer make the right reads and be accurate? is that what you are saying?


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Can't be real, can it? This is a reach. Wow!


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Can't say one would. Can't say one wouldn't. The fact still remains that Hue put Kizer in this predicament.

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give it to me bro. which one of all these phantom HC's would have won with Kizer.

I am a man lol I can take it...which one? of the many?


Is this a real thing that people believe or are you the only one?


still waiting...which HC would make Kizer a winner this year...


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Originally Posted By: dawgpound101
ok so you're saying that BB would make Kizer make the right reads and be accurate? is that what you are saying?


No. I'm saying a better coach would have put Kizer in a better position to succeed instead of forcing him into a cockamamie offense that didn't make sense.

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Channel 8 played all the G.M's welcome to the Browns and the all said the same thing

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Maybe Dorsey is okay keeping Hue because it sets the clock running on his rebuild a year from now instead of today. They might manage 3-13 next year, and he can then bring in his own coach and be pretty secure in the trajectory. Just a thought.


Dorsey is okay keeping Huebris because he is getting paid to do so.
Dorsey doesn't want to muddy the waters and is a yes man so that he can collect millions. He is putting his job security before the true building of the organization. So this year he will test the waters and get some good players here while praying Hue might win some games with the new QB. The problem with that is, the schedule next year is BRUTAL and Hue is SUPER mediocre....


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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ok so you're saying that BB would make Kizer make the right reads and be accurate? is that what you are saying?


No. I'm saying a better coach would have put Kizer in a better position to succeed instead of forcing him into a cockamamie offense that didn't make sense.


lol ok so we agree that Kizer sucks and never should have started? ok good.

should have road with Hogan all year an let Kizer learn...but another HC starter Kizer would not have won either is my point.


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"better position" says nothing...blanket statement...

and man do we need better WR's...Gordon is the only one we have.


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