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Is the biodiversity thing and recreational marijuana part of the same argument? I'm having a hard time connecting how rescinding the Obama-era rules on going after marijuana distributors is equivalent to a totalitarian onslaught against a Green Earth.

well that was quite a deflection, did his words strike a nerve?

The words would be TWO FACED HYPOCRISY.

jc

when i smoke, i like to imagine myself as a bond villain, with my own pet shark in a moat in the living room.

No, you would be Bond...swish Bond!

lol, definitely don't have the swagger for that.

bro do you keep up with the Bond movies? who was your favorite

No its not. The subect is the stupidity going on right now with the weed law crap. Not abortion(thats a different thread) .

Toss up between Roger Moore and Daniel Craig. Would definitely be on board for an Idris Elba Bond as well.

no love for Sean Connery though?

Elbra, Middleton (dude who plays Loki in Thor movies), and i would even go with Jude Law.

Sean Connery all the way!

Craig is only 5’10”, much too small to be a prototypical Bond player.

i thought Craig did a good job playing bond.

i think pierce was probably the worst bond.

So which one of you has the worst munchies in the room? Real contest to see who gets the last brownie or piece of pizza. LOLetc.

I think its a generational thing. I am 43 and grew up with Roger Moore as 007 and he is my favorite. My father is 75 and thinks it is sacreligous to think of Bond as anyone besides Sean Connery, my son is 18 and he likes the most current one, whomever that is

Brownies are cool, but I like loading up on oatmeal raisin cookies.

Yea that’s Craig.

I like Craig as an actor, but he was missing some of the swagger that bond is suppose to have. Sean and Moore had it. Pierce completely screwed if up for me.

In order to play bond, I mean you gotta damn near be a womanizer in real life.

As kingo said, it's a generational thing. 20 years from now someone else will be playing Iron Man and Captain America and you and I will still be on the Robert Downey Jr. Chris Evans band wagon.

I forgot Hiddleston was in consideration, based on what I've seen of him, he's got the 'coolness', but I don't know if he's got the 'coldness' for Bond.

Jude Law, nah. I don't quite see that.

I was making a joke about players being too short to play qb.

Donald Trump stars as "James Bond"

No we don't.

One comment on this....it is the Justice Departments job to enforce the laws of the land.

It is dangerous to cherry pick which laws will be enforced and which ones won't. What if some backwoods county or two decided to start collecting a poll tax and the JD decided to look the other way?

As long as federal law makes pot illegal, the JD is compelled to uphold the law. They can't pick and choose.

Like the law or not, that is the bottom line. I don't have a real problem with pot. Change the law. I do have a big problem with selective enforcement of laws. It opens a Pandora's box.

Sessions is the Imperial Wizard, plus he's the biggest drug lord in the land. Lock him up!

U dont seem to understand the new rules ...

Its actually IRRESPONSIBLE to not pick and choose ... cause us racists’s are to STUPID to know witch laws are important and witch ones are just window dressing ...

Thats why we got the libs ... to tell us witch ones to obey and witch ones to ignore ....

Its actually REALLY SIMPLE .... just remember these two things ...

They get to pick and choose ... we get to follow them ....

So how easy they make it for us ...

I pick legal cannabis over Gov't supported legal Heroin any day. Sessions is a drug lord. Lock him up.

Picking and choosing which laws to uphold and which to ignore is the nature of the beast. From beat cops to Judges, they all pick and choose and rightfully so. So many laws are on the books that are outdated but still remain.

Short story, my cousin owns Lakeland Drag Strip. Our county was in a drought and water restrictions were applied. His business requires daily use of water. Local law enforcement despises my cousin. They watch him like a hawk (with good reason). They decided to give him a citation for water use during the drought. He ended up going to court over it. The judge threw out the water citation because his business requires use. However, she found him guilty of being a public nuisance. She said she had to go all the way back to the Queens Law to find something. She chose to enforce a 200 year old law that had nothing to do with the original charge to hammer him. A $5000 fine and 30 days.

Your cousin is Ozzy Moya? Cool. Didn't they just sell that parcel of land to Amazon for a parking lot?

j/c

See, I have an issue with how laws are applied sometimes. I have an issue with how prosecutors will charge people with crimes they know they can't get a conviction on to simply scare people into copping a lesser plea. I mean if you're poor you can always get a public defender but their case load simply doesn't give them the time to mount a good defense.

It's like what Peen said. "it is the Justice Departments job to enforce the laws of the land." And that's 100% true. And people saying that they shouldn't pick and choose which laws to enforce is true.

Yet every day police all over America do that exact thing. They decide whether to give someone a ticket or a warning. They decide whether to arrest someone for a small amount of weed or just dump it out. They decide not to pull over someone going eight miles an hour over the speed limit. This "picking and choosing" happens every minute of every day in our country.

There is a blur between enforcing laws and common sense. Does enforcing weed laws make sense in the grand scheme of things? Does ending the jobs in the weed industry make sense? Does sending customers back to the black market where cartels use that money to promote criminal activities and even violence on the streets? Does it make sense to end millions upon millions of tax dollars to these states? Should federal law overrule states rights?

Federal marijuana laws exist. They are on the books and the federal government has every right to enforce them. But sometimes law enforcement overrules common sense. If you don't believe me, try getting a speeding ticket for going three miles over the speed limit then tell me it made any sense for the cop to have given you a ticket. I mean he shouldn't pick and choose, right?

You see, there is only so much money given to law enforcement. There are only so many officers to enforce the laws. With the rampant heroin addiction in our nation, explain to me how smart it is to put tons of resources into "fighting weed" with all of the more important criminal issues we have in our nation.

At some point a logical priority list must be assembled. I'm not seeing common sense and the law lining up here.

No, Roy Spiker. I should have said OWNED, didn't know he sold it lmao

At some point there will be a very violent standoff between the states and the feds. State rights ONLY exist where federal law does not preceed it. At any moment the FBI, DEA, or national guard could sweep in and shut down every drug related business in weed states and imprison each and every one of them for breaking Federal law.

The pot states are acting out in rebellion and by doing so through their government could end up being subject to martial law. It would not be the first time the FED has had to put it's foot down.

I myself am not energetic enough to care that much since I don't live in such a disgusting state. I imagine the drug cartels will win their votes eventually as the know it's cheaper to pay lobbyist than to run drugs illegally. I find it ridiculous that these states think it's ok to IGNORE the law like it doesn't even exist and expect there to be no retribution later on.

Maybe I should ignore the law too. I mean if entire states can ignore the law then why even bother having federal laws to begin with. Let's just dissolve the federal government and get it over with. After all you need an educated and morally sound people in order for a democracy to work and quite frankly the morals of our people are falling so fast I don't see how the nation will stand for too much longer outside of a major disaster unifying the people again.

But lets all just chill because we are stoned and nothing really matters and nothing is really important anymore, so long as, we have a nice buzz right?

Yes you need a nice buzz.

If you have read the entire thread you know that I agree with you about the feds having the authority to enforce such laws. I'm just wondering how much common sense would be involved in doing so.

No they can't. They don't have the resources to do it. End of story.

Why, exactly, do you think drug cartels would want marijuana to be legal?

Exactly. Twenty years ago in Ohio a pound of grass was worth about $5000. Currently in Oregon licensed production farmers are lucky to get $2300. I know guys that grow their personal stash. They basically give away their excess to friends and such as there’s really no market for it. The black market and the risk that comes with it is what keeps prices inflated.
The cartels want a black market.

“What you really need to do is go back in the ’30s, when they outlawed all types of drugs in Kansas [and] across the United States,” Alford said, according to the Garden City Telegram. “One of the reasons why, I hate to say it, was that the African-Americans, they were basically users and they basically responded the worst off to those drugs just because of their character makeup, their genetics and that.”

Lawmaker Says Black People Can't Handle Marijuana Because Of 'Genetics'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lawmaker-says-black-people-apos-015536887.html

Pit wants AA's to bend over backwards to please the same demographic that has no problem saying stuff like this in public settings.

I read this earlier and was disgusted. Can these people just crawl under their rocks and die already?

nope, because there are way too many people who are alive and well that think like this.

and i can only imagine how many people who hold powerful positions think the same way.

Steve Alford, 1st I heard of this moron. He needs to be removed from his seat. Jackass!

I saw this guy say this on TV! Talk about an over the top display of old school Jim Crow Racism! And you could tell that he believed this too when he was saying it regardless of his fake apology after the fact. "It's in their genetics"... smdh

Billions of dollars and zero risk. I can also guarantee you that legal states are funnelling the product out of state at a rapid pace too.

States think it's a cash cow but it's already causing same major problems and getting worse. The most common way to die is from car accidents. In colorado it has more than doubled due to people driving while high on pot. It's so easy for a sane person to see what a downward spiral this country is plunging into when it comes to morality.