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Time to watch football


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Butler just got a buzzer beating 3.

We are down by 27 at half.

Time to watch the title game.


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Love has 0 pts, 0 rebounds.

Just got 1 rebound on a tip.

I don't think Love has ever made a tip in in his life.

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I’m still trying to figure out what Lue does so much better they fired a guy with 18 championships.


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Switching to football myself.

Cavs are just an awful watch, even when they win.

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Not looking good tonight at all.

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Ouch.


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
I'll tell you what...if Spergon and Excel come on here and say my game day commentary has driven them away, I will stop posting in-game commentary for the Cavs.


You've definitely driven me away you dirty bastard...

lol, to be honest, I just don't get to see all the games. Seems like whenever they are on ESPN or TNT, I have a hockey game or some other garbage to attend.

The constant whining in these topics gets old. We do it every year. Fire Lue, Lebron is leaving. Should have gotten this guy instead of that guy, should have done this blah blah blah. Who cares. The regular season when you're the Cavs is garbage, and I'll continue to say that. I said the same thing the last few years when people freaked out.

I do think the East is a little more dicey this year. Cavs will be pressed by several teams. You know what I say? GOOD. I don't think the coasting is the best thing in the world. The rest is great, especially for Lebron, who has a million miles on him, but these guys could use some intensity.

I just don't think any of it matters. Seeding doesn't matter. All that matters is that this team is healthy when the season is over. Beyond that I think these guys know what needs to be done. They know how to raise their game when chips are actually on the table. (They aren't on the table until mid-April)

Like I said earlier, I bet you could go back the night the Warriors destroyed the Cavs in Cleveland in 2016, and see some of The laughable comments made by everyone (myself included) How'd that turn out for ya? Oh that's right.

I love the NBA, but this is a problem. There's just no reason to be that excited about the regular season. It's fun to watch individual guys. Lebron, Russ, Giannis, AD, Harden etc... but the outcomes of these games just don't really matter.

I love the Cavs, but before the season started, before we traded Kyrie, I didn't think the Cavs could beat GSW 4 out of 7. After the trade, I thought it opened up some options for the team, adding Crowder helps defensively, you still have a volume scorer in Thomas, but even so, I don't think they can beat GSW 4 out of 7.

After the 2015 finals, I think most of us thought that the Cavs could pull it off next year. It was just a general feeling that if a few bounces went their way that it could happen.

Could be worse, it could be college basketball's regular season, which is a hot steaming pile of dog crap..

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Boston will win the East this year and maybe the World Title ... Remember the Celtics are the blue blood's of the NBA that is almost ready to win number 18, and remember you heard it hear first wink

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Boston will win the East this year and maybe the World Title ... Remember the Celtics are the blue blood's of the NBA that is almost ready to win number 18, and remember you heard it hear first wink


To quote Austin Carr, "Get that weak stuff outta here". Cavs will win the East again.


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Yeah, Sperg pretty much echo's my feelings on the matter.

Regular season doesn't matter much. I haven't been able to watch a lot of games because we recently had a baby and I've been sick pretty much all winter.

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Yeah, Sperg pretty much echo's my feelings on the matter.

Regular season doesn't matter much. I haven't been able to watch a lot of games because we recently had a baby and I've been sick pretty much all winter.


Congrats on the baby!


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Yeah, Sperg pretty much echo's my feelings on the matter.

Regular season doesn't matter much. I haven't been able to watch a lot of games because we recently had a baby and I've been sick pretty much all winter.
What is even worse than Rish and Leads " the sky is falling "schtick. Is Vers whining about it and feeling he needs to point it out , like we dont all already know about it


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I haven't been able to watch many games. I have been hoping for some real insight into the team.

How horrible of me. rolleyes

Btw------wonder why YTown isn't posting on the Cavs' threads anymore. He is another guy who had good takes.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I haven't been able to watch many games. I have been hoping for some real insight into the team.

How horrible of me. rolleyes

Btw------wonder why YTown isn't posting on the Cavs' threads anymore. He is another guy who had good takes.
Well, I think we all know how Lead is , so we just scroll on by.


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I don't find either lead or Rish to be anything other than honest in their analysis of what's going on on the court.

Are they a little negative? If there wasn't something to be negative about, would they be?


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For clarification purposes only: I wasn't really getting on lead and Rish as much as I was hoping others would start making BB posts that would help inform those of us who can't watch the games.

I have been thinking about something Rish said to me. He mentioned that he views the Cavs' threads as GameDay threads. I never really thought about that, but yeah, I guess I can see that now after reading all of the reactions over the years during games.

My issue is that I NEVER read the football game day threads because I think they are too stupid and I don't see how you can possibly really watch a game while typing constantly.

I wonder if we could have a Game Day thread for the Cavs and also an overview thread about them? I wonder if there would be enough interest?

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I try to watch the Cav's when they are on TV.

However, I don't really get into BB until playoffs.

Playoff BB is almost a different game than regular season.

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I've been thinking of how much of a problem this is for the NBA. Almost everyone who knows anything about the league knows that the regular season is next to meaningless.

Why watch games that don't matter?

I wonder if the NBA needs to rethink things a bit?

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For the life of me, I don't get why someone would want to complain the entire season and predict losses for every playoff series all the way to the championship. Sit back and enjoy what we have now, it's not going to last forever.

I like the regular season games. I don't get emotional about them, but it's entertaining to watch the world class athletes on the Cavs play, especially live. Like someone here said, there's no defense until April and there's no point in getting upset about it. Hell, I enjoyed that Orlando game where both teams were in the 60s at the half. My son gave me tickets for the Spurs game for Christmas. 4th year in a row I'm going to a Cavs game instead of the Browns.


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If you're watching the game live and watching the opposing team scoring with little resistance and pointing that out in real time, how is that a schtick?

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I don't see how you can possibly really watch a game while typing constantly.


It's not easy but I seem to push through.

Seriously, I'm usually behind the play. I live in a house full of women. My daughter's aren't of the age where they are into sports yet. No one watches with me. Posting while watching is like being at the bar with my buddies.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I haven't been able to watch many games. I have been hoping for some real insight into the team.

How horrible of me. rolleyes

Btw------wonder why YTown isn't posting on the Cavs' threads anymore. He is another guy who had good takes.


I appreciate the compliment. I have been reading far more than I have been posting, lately.

The Cavaliers have yet to really play the team they wanted to set on the court this year. They have had injuries. Everyone does, but man, it seems like the lineups have to change every 3 or 4 days. Consistency has been well beyond a challenge.

I hope that things will settle down as IT is able to play every game. However, I am still beyond worried about the way teams just abuse our defense. I think that we need to add another quality big. We really need to shore up our defense .... and that's not going to happen by adding IT back on the floor.


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This makes sense to me.

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I don't see how you can possibly really watch a game while typing constantly.


It's not easy but I seem to push through.

Seriously, I'm usually behind the play. I live in a house full of women. My daughter's aren't of the age where they are into sports yet. No one watches with me. Posting while watching is like being at the bar with my buddies.


yep this is how I use it too. usually not much else to post about during the season as its long and nothing really happens until trade deadline.

On that note, I think anyone with a set of eyes can see the issue right now is TT..we are just a worse team on both ends with him in there. As soon as he's come back and Lue has tried to force him into the rotation everything is screwed up.. From spacing to defensive assignments. Wade and Lebron are constantly yelling at TT on the floor about a missed assignment. I usually hate PD writers, but Livingston had a decent article about it. I think despite his claim the cavs have a Thompson problem, I think we have a Lue problem..

http://www.cleveland.com/livingston/inde...on_problem.html


While a guy like TT can be valuable in certain situations, He's not at the minutes he's getting, problem is he's being paid like a starter. Thats all on lebron and his stupid meddling with team affairs/contracts. Frye needs to be playing 20-25 minutes a night. It seems to be obvious to just about everyone except Lue. We are ranked 29 out of 30th in defense...all those that say oh we'll just turn it up in april. Say they turn it up, what's the ceiling, because it hasn't been good enough, Warriors are still tops in defense and offense...Boston is at the top defensively as well. Its a tough row to hoe to go from 29 to even middle of the pack, and we need to get even higher, so yeah, anyone that has played this game knows this isn't an easy fix and just deciding you are going to play defense. If it was just individual effort you could get better returns, but we have systematic failure. Bottom line is this team isn't built well to play the defense needed to win a ring, it does, when coached properly, have the offense to win one, so we need to fix the defense, trades are going to have to be made. TT and JR to me are the biggest weakspots on the team. Love at the 5 doesn't work defensively either, fix the TT issue and you fix the Love issue


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j/c:

Here is my opinion on what we are seeing. We are in an adjustment period. If you recall the beginning of the season, you will remember that the team was really struggling and losing to poor teams. I think that had more to do w/all the new pieces becoming acclimated w/each other than it did coaching or a lack of talent. I think LeBron is at the hub of this and he tries to figure out how get the team to mesh in the best way he can. I think the Cavs struggle out of the gate almost every year w/LeBron.

After the initial struggles, the team found it's groove. I forget the exact numbers, but didn't we win something like 19 out of 20.

Now, we have a situation where TT and IT are being thrust into the lineup. We are witnessing another adjustment period as LeBron tries to figure out how to get the most out of these lineups.

My bottom line is that I think this Cavs team is more talented than the teams that were in the Finals for the past 3 years. I think they will get things figured out w/their rotations and how guys are used, just like they always do w/LeBron. I think that the Cavs have an excellent shot at not only reaching the Finals, but also at winning it. I am not buying all of the doom and gloom from a moron like Bill Livingston.

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The schedule is brutal. They don't play series. Hard to zero in on a team.

Playoffs they get down and dirty. The defense is torqued up. the over intensity is way different.

Regular season is like just go and watch great players play.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I've been thinking of how much of a problem this is for the NBA. Almost everyone who knows anything about the league knows that the regular season is next to meaningless.

Why watch games that don't matter?

I wonder if the NBA needs to rethink things a bit?


one could argue that this is how the Steelers and Patriots fans feel every year.


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I've been thinking of how much of a problem this is for the NBA. Almost everyone who knows anything about the league knows that the regular season is next to meaningless.

Why watch games that don't matter?

I wonder if the NBA needs to rethink things a bit?


Exactly.

I'll sound like a broken record by saying they need to shorten the season, but they do. During the 2012–13 NHL shortened season, teams played 48 games. Heck, going all the way back to the 1998–99 NBA season, they played 50 games. Both of those were affected by work-stoppages, but it gave us a glimpse of what a shortened season would look and feel like.

Just when you might get bored, boom, it's the middle of the season and playoff positioning starts and then before you know it, there are 5 games to go. Each game felt important and that this game could really set the tone for something later on.

I'm not suggesting lowering to 50, that's unrealistic, but maybe 10%. And if the leagues would raise ticket prices for the other 90% to compensate for the dropped games, I'd be okay with that. I'd rather pay 10% more to watch a game that's one of 72 than one of 82. I'm sure there are other factors I don't know about, like the cities that host these teams want fans to bring their tax dollars 41 times to downtown, not 35.

Personally, I can't stand back-to-backs in the NBA and NHL. It's as if the league wants teams to lose more because they set them up for failure. And it's not just that the team will probably lose, but the product suffers for the fans. We all know that watching Thursday night NFL is sloppy at best.

It may not be the amount of games, it's that the playoffs are obviously what matters most. Look at the EPL and college football models, they either have no playoffs or such a limited playoff bracket that it makes the regular season carry most of the weight. That's why I don't want to see an 8-team CFP expansion, that week 3 OOC game between OSU and Florida becomes almost meaningless. Why tune in?


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Hanging in there with Toronto, 24 to 30, end of first quarter. I think we have been losing since the game started, but I started watching it late/don't know for certain.

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We are still trying to figure out our rotations, just like I said a few posts above. Reggie Miller just brought up the same thing. So did Kevin H.

I also have seen inspired play from TT and Reggie was singing his praises.

Our defensive effort is still not very good and we don't have a rim defender.

I think it might be important to get a rim defender at some point this season.

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I didn't like that lineup at the start of the 2nd quarter. Not much scoring. They just put IT back in.

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I really don't think we will win this, as Toronto is really good and it seems to me we have trouble beating the better teams.

Good to see IT playing. He's so short, it trips me out.

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Nothing good about this team right now. We look to have been fleeced in this trade. Comes down to the pick now


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Nothing good about this team right now. We look to have been fleeced in this trade. Comes down to the pick now


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Man this team blows. I’d try to trade everyone not named lebron. Or find a coach that actually has a clue. This team looks like the browns


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They need to get a superstar. Love and IT ain’t it. This isn’t regular season blues, this is just a bad team. Regular season ain’t affecting the other contenders


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And here we go...

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Comical how bad this team is, against team missing 2 starters


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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
Man this team blows. I’d try to trade everyone not named lebron. Or find a coach that actually has a clue. This team looks like the browns


Come on, the Cavs are not nearly that bad, but they ain't the same team since Kyrie left.

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