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Hue wanted Watson, didn't get him.

Hue liked Goff. now, we don't know if it would've even been possible to move up, but we did have the ammo to do it.

Kessler and Kizer weren't Hue picks.

so far the only QB Hue definitely picked was RG3. obviously that failed. but we gave him a 2 year project contract that didn't hurt whatsoever. there was no downside to taking a chance on RG3 in a year we weren't ever gonna be good in the first place.

Hue has not got a chance to pick his own QB for the future.

I believe you're correct, Hue took the job because he was in charge of the quarterbacks. He had that power and that was the selling point.

However, Hue was a Haslam hire, not Sashi. Sashi was only along for the ride on that one.

I think Hue's fingerprints are all over the quarterback position. The only reason those guys were here or let go is because that's what Hue wanted.

I'm certain his power has been squashed with this new regime. We should see immediate improvement at that position.

Nice! Glad to be wrong about thinking they were gone. There are still a lot of cooks in the kitchen, though.



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Rumor I heard was "for now." And that changes (dismissals) could occur following the draft.

No, it wouldn't be a good thing for the Browns and with the FO people just hired, Hue's input on potential players looks like it dropped exponentially.

I doubt this front office really gives a damn what their 1-31 coach wants or doesnt want. They are going to go in with the mindset of we want the best player that fits our mindset of what we want to build.

I read it differently, as if he was saying Hue may actually be drafting players. I avoided comment. Hue and the GM should sit and discuss the type of players Hue wants/likes/needs for his system. Hue should then go coach the team, that's what he was hired to do. The two need to work in harmony and Hue needs to trust the process or it will never work.

"grab Minkah, Mayfield"

Love it!

Wow, that's fantastic!

We have some real talent in our front office. They have a lot to work with. Now they have to deliver.

Having more smart people is better than having less smart people. I like the way this is going. I like Sashi Brown, but this front office is building real credibility.

continuity... what everyone has wanted...

I wish we could just discuss the additions like you did and not make every single thread an agenda thread like this is becoming.

I have been saying that I believe things are looking up. We have some continuity w/the coaching staff and our FO is the strongest it's been since our rebirth.

I am very excited moving forward. I have never been a homer who just approves of every move, but man, this is looking awesome!

Now we are re-writing history at the light of some convenient leaks...

What was told to us is that Hue was on-board with the Wentz trade, that he had found his QB in RG3 and had his development project on Kessler.

This last draft e appeared hyped with Kizer's potential and always said Brock was in the the fight to be the veteran QB, hence the Josh cut.

Why would Sachi pick a QB against Hue will?

Why would Hue sign with Sachi knowing he had no control over the roster, when he had many teams after him, and the Browns had virtually no leverage over him?

And you know that both Watson and Wentz don't fit on Hue's QB mold, so its time to let this to rest. He cannot even twitch his game to fit Kizer, he would never pick a mobile/ instinctive QB in the first place, even with RG3, he was after his passing skills, not his run ability.

His QB's were Flacco, Carson Palmer and Andy Dalton that look nothing like Watson and Wentz.

Again, I repeat that the whole narrative has no logic, it does not make any logic that Hue would accept such a deal, and it would only take for Hue to state his position in the open and quit being the HC of the Browns.

Yeah, I look at the backgrounds of Dorsey, Wolf, and Highsmith .... along with some continuity with Berry, who I think highly of as well.

Given the draft picks and cap space we have, this group can make a huge impact this year.

Agreed. And hopefully we can use Depo in the right manner.

Things are looking up, bro!!!

i disagree.

Hue wanted Watson, but sashi decided to trade back and let Houston take him instead.

i dunno whether or not Hue liked Wentz, but it was clear he liked Goff.

Kessler was a 3rd round pick. 3rd round picks and later are guys i won't even put on Sashi or Hue, as they are COMPLETE crap shoots. kessler could be a good backup. a 3rd rounder for a backup QB isn't a problem.

Sashi 'valued' value and numbers over anything else. that's not Hue.

so we will see how this new FO treats the QB situation.

While I'm not dismissing this scenario, one thing certainly does puzzle me about it. If Hoyer was a target of New England, which he obviously was, why in Gods name didn't they simply include him in the trade?

It would have been quite easy for the Niners to give N. England a second round pick and Brian Hoyer for JG. To me this certainly muddies the waters on the base line story that so many claim to be gospel.

I think the main issue is not the draft, because those poor guys have no alternative if we draft them...The main issue is the ability to attract veteran talent.

That's where the FO can help. Hire a good OC and DC and bring in some quality FA.

It all had to do with compensation picks.

It's actually great news for all concerned. For Hue it gives him the talent to win. For the fans it gives them the answer to the question they think they have now, which they don't.That question is if Hue is given the talent, can he be a good NFL HC? It looks like we may finally get the answers we need for all concerned.

Pit, I think the whole JG trade process has been disclosed and explains perfectly what happened.

Brady demands JG to be traded to the Owner, Owner tells BB to trade JG, BB calls Kyle first thing in the morning and asks him to take JG.

On this point I'll comment. Hue wanted Hooker at 12, not Watson nor a trade back.


Hue wants a big strong armed accurate pocket passer. Hue's #1 trait for a QB is accuracy (hence the Kessler pick). But he's also commented about having that tall 6'3"+ guy in the pocket. None of this translates to Watson being a Hue-type QB.

If you can't figure it out in 2 complete seasons, I don't think another will do it...

Our coaching staff is mediocre, with the notable exception of the Line coaches.

Basic math certainly isn't this guys strong suit is it? lmao

thats why he texted Watson to be ready, because he didn't want watson.....yea ok.

The details tend to get get lost on the Hue's defenders...

I think the narrative will evolve to something like Sashi and Depodesta wanting draft picks and orchestrating a bad team and not telling Hue all about hit...

Now Hue was such a genius and knowledgeable football guy, than although he was coaching the roster he never saw the lack of talent,and the evil Harvard Guys plot....

What would Sachi ever had to win on going against the Coach that he selected?

Did Sachi ever placed Hue in question?

Its pretty evident that the problem with the Browns were the Football guys.

Hue said he didn't text him.

Hue has said a lot of things.

3 front office guys all neck deep into drafting with the west coast offensive philosophy.

Swish, everything and I mean every single thing I heard was that Hue loved Mahomes and wanted us to draft him but when he came off the board, he wanted the DB from Ohio St. Watson's accuracy was an issue that pushed his value down our board.

That really has nothing to do with the question I posed. Let's try again.

It's obvious that N. England wanted Hoyer. So if that was the goal, why wasn't Hoyer simply included in the trade for JG?

So why did he text if he knew that he had no power to select a QB...

The details.... they get in the way...

maybe he was trying to influence Sashi to take him, but Sashi saw the value in the trade back.

and if Hue didn't want Watson, then that only further leans toward my belief that he should've been fired.

You just love making things up don't you?

Because the call from BB was to Kyle take JG. It wasn't a negotiation, it was BB offering JG to Kyle...

I don't think its that hard to understand, honestly.

There was someone close to the NE staff explaining it on the radio.

I also think that's the most logical explanation for the trade. Apparently even JT agrees, Willy Mack agrees, so what gives....