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Bills pick #21 and #22 do we trade #4 to them for both picks? and more?

Nope. Gotta pick a game changer with number 4. We'd have to get a boatload in return for that deal to be a good one IMO.

It'd have to be more than that. That's quite the jump.

They might be willing to spending a lot to get to four for a QB.

No. Trades like this are how you end up passing on guys like Bosa, Ramsey, Elliott, Jamal Adams, Fournette, etc.... and up with guys like Treadwell, Peppers, Charles Harris etc..

Quality over quantity, not the other way around. Teams need game changers to win.

No thanks. We need impact players and you don't typically get impact players at #21 or #22. Besides #22 has been the worst of the picks in the first round for us - Quinn, Manziel, etc. Just say no...

I'd consider it.....probably have to add a 2nd next year.

I really like what Sashi and crew did to set things up in the way of picks. We are at a point we can perpetuate that for a few more years if we trade back where it makes sense.


I'd rather sign Cousins and trade out of #1 and not have to draft a QB. That 1st pick will bring a boat load of picks.

In theory, I'd need to have then add a 2nd as well, at least. Though, I wouldn't want to drop that far.

j/c:

This team has a ton of picks. We have went 1 and 31 w/that strategy.

It's time to take some impact players w/our picks and stop trading down for a year or two.

Besides, I really don't think there is going to be a qb at 4 that is worthy of such a high pick. Rosen and Darnold will be gone and the other guys.......Nah!

For me to consider it They would need to add a 2019 1st and a 2020 1st.

Even then I'm not sure that I would do it. I don't like dropping down so far that a don't know who I am going to draft.

Tempting, but no thanks. Sashi has got us to the point that we no longer need quantity, but still need a few 'blue-chippers'...

That is how you miss on guys like Wentz, Zeke, Ramsey, and Bosa and end up w/a Corey Coleman.

We need more impact players.

Four 1st rounders? Never going to happen, Jester...

Did you say 2 first round picks and Tre’Davious White? How bad do you want that QB Buffalo?

We have enough picks in the top of the 2018 draft. #1, #4, #33, and #35. Pick a QB at #1 and a game changing talent at #4. At 33 and 35 we will have 2 picks at the top of the 2nd round for some surprise 1st round talents that fall into the 2nd round.

This needs to be the draft where the experts point to some day and say this is where the Browns changed their fortune.

I'm done with trading down for more picks. We need to pick someone that can play football NOW.

I'd trade the #4 pick for Tre’Davious White alone, the 2 first rounders would be gravy.

No way am I moving down.

If we go get Cousins, we need to end up with Barkley and Minkah-Fitzpatrick. The ONLY team I sell Rosen or Darnold to is the Giants at 2. In that case, the other QB is sitting there for Indy at 3. I bet they move out if they are settled on Luck.

BOOM. There's Barkley and Minkah-Fitzpatrick at 2&4.

Interesting thing is this. If we ink Cousins and we love a different RB that we could get at 33 or 35? NOW you sell #1 for a BOATLOAD including a 2019 #1.

Options are plentiful. QB'S go 1&2. Indy goes Barkley. We go Minkah-Fitzpatrick and Ridley or Sutton?

What if Pryor really wants to be back here?

Cousins with say Guice. Gordon, Ridley/Sutton, Coleman and Pryor? Duke and Njoku.

Gonna be interesting for sure.

Of course, I'd be STOKED with Darnold or Rosen!

I would trade down with #4 .. but not out of top 10. Maybe trade with Jets or the Bears for their 1st and second.

If we sign Cousins, I trade out of the first pick.

Agreed... he is your franchise QB if we can sign him. You can gain serious value by trading back to two, five, or six in this draft.

As for trading with Buffalo, we can leverage our 2nd round picks to move up to 21 or 22 to pick an additional first rounder. Or trade a second rounder for a first rounder the following year with a team that is in the late first round.

If Hue is worth his salt as coach, I'd keep the pick, draft Darnold let him coach him up so he's ready in a couple of years. Trade Cousins. Some won't like this, but our problem over the past 20 years has been the quarterback position. Win games, find a solution.

If there is a QB somebody wants on the board at pick #4, we basically have to trade down. Getting a king's ransom and keeping the bounty of draft picks flowing into 2019 would be crazy good.

The problem is that Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold will go #1 and #2 (I don't know who will go #1 or who will go #2) and, at this point, I don't see anyone trading up for Josh Allen or Baker Mayfield.

Jets, Bill, or Broncos may trade up #3 for Josh Allen with Indy.

I’m open to it, depending on how free agency plays out.

I don't think anyone will trade up that far for Allen. If they do it's a complete and utter mistake.

In a perfect world, Browns draft Mayfield at 1, Giants draft Rosen. Colts grab Barkley or Chubb or a tackle. Denver or New York trade up to #4 and take Darnold, we'd get additional pick(s) and still get Fitzpatrick.

We've been down this road before. All we've ended up doing is drafting dud spuds instead of greater taters.

Good thing we have a genius front office now. We should hit on 100% of the picks.

I've read that Buffalo is a good spot for Alex Smith.

They may need to make this move because I'm leery that Tyrod is happy there after the benching. But maybe...?

Otherwise, I think the Bills could be looking at Allen or Rudolph with one of their picks. If that's the case, I'm banking on the latter.

Allen will not get past Denver and Elway - bank on it.

In your perfect world maybe (and I like Mayfield), but in Browns perfect world:

1. Sammy
4. Minka

If Mayfield is the target QB for Dorsey then I’d trade out of one with the Giants, in a heartbeat. They get Rosen, and we sit at #2. That’s if Mayfield is the target.

I don't agree. Allen is not going to be a top 10 pick.

We shall see.

If the Browns do not draft impact players at #1 and #4 I am DONE. I'm sick and tired of QUALITY being traded for quantity. Get some players who can actually make a difference in the win column. It's LONG past time for the Browns to be relevant again. Get it done!

It is funny how for the past 2 years "everybody" has criticized us for trading down so much - both on this board and in the media, but now there is a growing sentiment that we should trade down - again both on dawgtalkers and in the media.

That is NOT my sentiment. We need impact players. We have a ton of picks.

You do have to admit that it is a growing sentiment. A month ago if you suggested trading down you got tarred and feathered. But more and more frequently the trading down option is being suggested.

I have always been a play the draft kind of guy.

If we take a Qb at #1 then have 2-3 guys that we value equally then I would be okay with trading down 1-2 spots.
If we have one guy that we really like better than the others then we take him.
If we see a guy we really like yet have 10 picks ahead of ours, then trade up to get him.

If Allen gets past #10 I will be very , very surprised .. He would have to blow both the Senior Bowl and the combine !