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I hate these people who are almost like Hue Jackson apologists, its freaking ridiculous. The guy sucks, he's pretty much winless, doesn't know how to game plan, run the ball to save his life, and couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. Until he proves me wrong I will think that way about him. He hasn't shown me anything other then the above.

He also does not coach to the strengths of his players. Relating to that, I don't know if its because he's stupid or is just too stubborn to change his offensive plan. If he really was a good coach this is what he would do.

It sounds like you know SO MUCH MORE about being an NFL HC. I doubt it.

Gotta love when the debate devolves to this considering the track record of HCs we've had here.

I just hate when a dumbass coach makes the same mistakes over and over for 16 weeks and doesnt learn from them.

Kizer is an interception waiting to happen, let me see backed up inside our 2 yard line what should i do, ah ha !!! I should pass only a moron would do that no one will see it coming.

100 yards rushing in the first quarter against the Ravens, we got the lead, what do we do now, I know lets run it 5 times the next 3 quarters.

Hue doesnt need an OC, he just needs someone telling him to stop being a dumbass. Dont be the smartest guy in the room, be the guy that sticks to the plan.

Hue has some amazing designs but working with a rookie, just keep it simple. Put Al Saunders up in the booth. You trust him, so trust him to be that little voice that keeps you on the right track.

I honestly think that was a big issue in that Hue didnt have someone be that voice that keeps him in check.

AJ McCaron will likely win his appeal as he has medical checks to back up his argument With McCaron knowing his offense, he can be a bit more aggressive but if we are back going with yet another rookie QB, keep it simple.

Yeah, I'm sure you shouldn't have your QB throw the ball. It amazes me the people who just don't understand what happened. We weren't going to win much anyway. Kizer was on a one year rental. Figure out if he's going to improve. If not, you have to draft a QB at the top of the draft. He didn't, so we will.

Sad part is you actually believe the crap you just wrote.

Yep he do !

Rocket surgery is complicated.

A Rickyism!!!

he knows how to use the run game and TE's

I have a hard time believing Mularkey would want to be an OC immediately after being fired for the season he just finished.

His offense is boring but it's a high efficiency offense that focuses on the run game and executes at a high level.
It would be a welcome balance to Hues offense.

Would they be running a hybrid of the two?

From a verbiage standpoint my guess would be Hues 'system' remains in place and whomever the new OC would be they learn Hues verbiage rather then force ~25 people to learn theirs.

But whomever the new OC is at least philosophically there would be an exchange of ideas that may result in some game plan changes.

Mike Mularkey on the Browns' radar for offensive coordinator

Updated January 15, 2018 at 11:48 AM; Posted January 15, 2018 at 11:25 AM

Fired Titans coach Mike Mularkey will talk to the Browns about their offensive coordinator opening.
Fired Titans coach Mike Mularkey will talk to the Browns about their offensive coordinator opening.(Steven Senne)

By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Fired Titans coach Mike Mularkey is on the Browns' radar for their offensive coordinator opening, a league source told cleveland.com

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport first reported that Cleveland could be a landing spot for the long-time head coach and offensive coordinator. He also reported that the Browns are interviewing TCU co-offensive coordinator Curtis Luper for their running backs coach vacancy.

Jackson has been in the process of interviewing coordinators, and would be willing to hand over play-calling duties to an experienced coordinator such Mularkey, 56.

He's interviewed Texans quarterbacks coach Sean Ryan and talked to several others for the job.

Mularkey could be in demand with all of the head coach and coordinator jobs currently open.

Mularkey was fired by the Titans on Monday, two days after they lost to the Patriots 35-14 in the divisional round. The Titans went 9-7 in each of the past two seasons after he took over as interim coach with five games left in the 2015 season when Ken Whisenhunt was fired. They finished 3-13 that year.

The Titans had assured Mularkey before the playoff game he was staying, and were working on terms of an extension. But things changed after the loss.

"I want to thank Mike Mularkey for his contributions to our franchise over his tenure with our organization," Titans owner Amy Adams Strunk said in a statement. "He took over our team during a low moment and together with (GM) Jon (Robinson) built a solid foundation for our franchise. I appreciated that Mike devoted himself to this team and the community.''

Strunk acknowledged the team reversed field.

"In fact, we did discuss extending his future with our team over the past week, but in those discussions about the direction of the team, it became evident that we saw different paths to achieve greater success,'' she said in the statement.

Jackson has overhauled his coaching staff this offseason, parting ways with special teams coordinator Chris Tabor, run game coordinator Kirby Wilson and others. He added Adam Henry as receivers coach and Ken Zampese as quarterbacks coach.

Mularkey would bring 23 years of NFL coaching experience, including five-plus as a head coach and eight as a coordinator. He served as coordinator for the Steelers, Dolphins and Falcons.

If Jackson hires a coordinator who's never called plays, he'll likely continue to call them himself. But if he can land someone like Mularkey, he'd give up the chore.

Ryan, who's never called plays, wants to do so, which is one reason he left here last week without a contract.



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Why not? If Hue doesn't turn the corner damn quick, it could be Mularkey filling in as interim head coach. That bring a potential to interview.

I wouldn't be betting on Hue having much rope left.

Ben McAdoo interviewing for Browns offensive coordinator job today
Updated 10:34 AM; Posted 10:33 AM
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By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Fired Giants coach Ben McAdoo is interviewing for the Browns offensive coordinator job today in Berea,, a league source told cleveland.com.

McAdoo, fired by the Giants on Dec. 4 along with GM Jerry Reese when the team was 2-10, has ties to John Dorsey and would be a strong candidate to call plays here because of his experience.

He spent seven years in Green Bay with Dorsey from 2006 through 20012, where he served as tight ends coach from 2006-11 and quarterbacks coach in 2014 and 2015. link ]

this retread staff will make this year very entertaining imo.

Interesting.

Ben McAdoo. Mike Mullarkey. Sean Ryan. They all seem okay to me

Anyone think Hue is looking at these candidates going 'If I don't go 2-2 in my first 4 games, these guys will have my job'?

I do like these guys' experience and I think Hue will respect them enough to let them call plays. I don't think I see Mularky because I don't think Hue's system and his are similar enough.

All of the coaches being interviewed for our OC position are good candidates. They all have experience and I feel would be an asset to our staff. Would be happy with whomever we hire out of that group.

There has been some follow up to this report that McAdoo's offense is very different from Hue's.

Can anyone substantiate this opinion and in general?


https://twitter.com/_PeteSmith_/status/953291368796913665

Macadoo runs a west coast offense which also has more zone blocking in the running game. With the Giants, he tried mix that offense with Coughlin's vertical scheme.

Thanks. I figured it was a WC style considering the ties to Dorsey/Green Bay.

I'm a big fan of hiring just about anyone for OC. Even if it's a super-inexperienced guy that won't call plays. Hue Jackson needs tasks taken off his plate. Remember, the guy was a good play-caller coming from Cinci. He was creative, called the game to the strengths of his offense, and made Andy f'ing Dalton look like a stud. Some point between then and now, he went WAY back in the other direction, for some reason.

I would think McAdoo wouldn't fit. Mularkey would be a better fit with Hue, no?

I don't mind Ben McAdoo has the offensive coordinator. He transformed Eli Manning late in his career and OBJ thrived with him as the offensive coordinator. He was just in over his head as a head coach. Also, this is definitely a John Dorsey connection.

Mularkey similar to hue but he wants to run hard and use tight ends more. McAdoo would be good for the fo as they could draft for a wc offensive system.

Hue lands either. I am impressed.

j/c

Well, with a few more interviews I guess that may help dispel the BS about Hue being a worm and lying about wanting to hire an OC. But I doubt it.

I'm the one who called him a worm. Of course I also said that if he hired an offensive coordinator my comments would be irrelevant.

I guess you can throw out a "worm comment" BEFORE you find out what a person actually does. Or maybe you should wait to see what he does first?

Hue earned the 'worm' moniker well-before the OC "search" began. JMO

McAdoo may have been a good OC, but was a horrible HC. Don’t know if I like this idea or not.

As far as a fit goes, any OC we hire is going to run Hue's system until Hue is no longer here and most OC's can run systems other than their own. There aren't that many different systems out there. All the coaches know them. Macadoo walked into Coughlin's system so he knows what's up.

Not necessarily. Marvinlewis ran wc, coryell, hybrid, proset

I am an impatient person and I have access to a computer. If any of this actually meant anything I would probably be more careful.

j/c: I have been looking at Hue's offense since the season ended. I think I was wrong when I said it was an Air Coryell offense. I thought it was because of all the vertical routes and the power running game.

I started doing some research and I noticed he worked under some WCO guys. Here is a quote from Mike Zimmer on Hue's offense:



I think this is the case. I think he may have had some early roots in the WCO and he hung on to some of them and he also incorporated the vertical passing and power running games to his offense.

So, I don't think any of those proposed candidates can be deemed as a poor fit. McAdoo is an interesting candidate, but he is going to have change that new hairdo that he brought out this year. LOL

Oh, and here is the link to the full article where I got Zimmer's comments in case anyone cares to read the entire thing. https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/mike-z...his-personality