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Also, there are multiple reports suggesting that loopholes in the new tax bill might make it easier for companies to ship jobs overseas, and actually save even more on money kept off shore.

Yikes.


You can't believe everything the liberal media tells ya. They hate America. The truth is in what businesses do like Fiat Chrysler closing a factory in Mexico and moving to Michigan creating 2,500 jobs. The CEO credits the tax cuts.


You sound like Stalin or Hitler and Trump... Attacking the free press..



In case you haven't noticed, the Press isn't Free.
It is biased toward it's owners, the Fascist Democrats.

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In case you haven't noticed, the Press isn't Free.
It is biased toward it's owners, the Fascist Democrats.


In other words... I don't believe any news unless it comes from Fox News, or it is favorable to Trump. Then it doesn't matter where it comes from.


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Job growth for December 2017 was 148,000.

Job growth for October of 2016, before the elections, was 161,000.

Just sayin'.


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Job growth for December 2017 was 148,000.

Job growth for October of 2016, before the elections, was 161,000.

Just sayin'.




Just saying....lots of temp jobs open up in Oct/Nov to gear up for Christmas sales. It works that way every year, so I am not sure I get your point.


Ok....I get your point. I am saying you point doesn't paint the picture you want.

The tax cuts are a good thing and are starting to work. Daman talked about Sams club closing 60 sams clubs. Ok...they were under performing. Companies do that. What he didn't mention were bonuses being paid to employees and starting pay being raised.


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I give Trump credit on the economy. He has added a huge spark to the upper class economy in the stock market and business "Friendly" sectors. He also passed out some pesos to the peons via tax reform for what good it will do.

Time will tell if the GOP gamble pays off this time around with tax cuts, but history indicates it will NOT.

As for Trump's success on the economy, I refuse to give him any more credit than is due because he inherited an economy already trending up for a long time. I think the stock market is going to be in trouble because the values are not based on companies 'actually' doing well. The Trump effect has caused many stocks to be way overvalued and any idiot can figure out what happens after that.

So the tax cuts mostly help the rich, the stock market gains mostly help the rich, and all the other cuts being done to pay for those things take from the poor and middle class. Yet none of the trumpians see any issues with this. I said before Trump took office that it was going to be the biggest heist the world has ever seen and so far we are right on track.

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I give Trump credit on the economy. He has added a huge spark to the upper class economy in the stock market and business "Friendly" sectors. He also passed out some pesos to the peons via tax reform for what good it will do.

Time will tell if the GOP gamble pays off this time around with tax cuts, but history indicates it will NOT.

As for Trump's success on the economy, I refuse to give him any more credit than is due because he inherited an economy already trending up for a long time. I think the stock market is going to be in trouble because the values are not based on companies 'actually' doing well. The Trump effect has caused many stocks to be way overvalued and any idiot can figure out what happens after that.

So the tax cuts mostly help the rich, the stock market gains mostly help the rich, and all the other cuts being done to pay for those things take from the poor and middle class. Yet none of the trumpians see any issues with this. I said before Trump took office that it was going to be the biggest heist the world has ever seen and so far we are right on track.


The rich are not the problem in our society. The rich employee the middle class. Who end up paying for everything. The poor our the problem in this country.

They are not poor because there are no jobs they are poor because of bad choices in life and want everyone to pay for them. They choose not to work, they choose to take drugs and can't pass a drug test. Trump has not cut one spending bill that these people rely on. But he should.

Your talking points are fresh from the brain washing bleeding heart liberal media.


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Stock market gains.

First, we need to understand those gains - for us commoners AND the rich - are all on paper, unless you're selling.

Second, those gains may go away completely, partially, not at all, or somewhere in between. Might even gain more.

Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, the gains in the stock market aren't helping only the 'rich'. They help the teacher's unions that are invested in the stock market. (and they all are). They help the union people, as they are invested in the stock market, whether they know it or not. The gains also help just about everyone, in some manner.

Those gains may go away, as I said.

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I give Trump credit on the economy.


Thats refreshing to see some credit from the other side thumbsup

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So the tax cuts mostly help the rich, the stock market gains mostly help the rich, and all the other cuts being done to pay for those things take from the poor and middle class. Yet none of the trumpians see any issues with this


This is where we see differently. You seem to think only RICH people can invest in the stock market. What's stopping you (or anybody else)from throwing a grand or two in the ring? Turn that into 3 or 4 grand and so on.

Folks complaining should get in the game. Truth to the matter is, you're complaining about an opportunity created for ANYBODY to take advantage of.

One more question, how can you take from the poor to pay for the RICH's benefits? They have nothing to take! willynilly

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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
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I give Trump credit on the economy. He has added a huge spark to the upper class economy in the stock market and business "Friendly" sectors. He also passed out some pesos to the peons via tax reform for what good it will do.

Time will tell if the GOP gamble pays off this time around with tax cuts, but history indicates it will NOT.

As for Trump's success on the economy, I refuse to give him any more credit than is due because he inherited an economy already trending up for a long time. I think the stock market is going to be in trouble because the values are not based on companies 'actually' doing well. The Trump effect has caused many stocks to be way overvalued and any idiot can figure out what happens after that.

So the tax cuts mostly help the rich, the stock market gains mostly help the rich, and all the other cuts being done to pay for those things take from the poor and middle class. Yet none of the trumpians see any issues with this. I said before Trump took office that it was going to be the biggest heist the world has ever seen and so far we are right on track.


The rich are not the problem in our society. The rich employee the middle class. Who end up paying for everything. The poor our the problem in this country.

They are not poor because there are no jobs they are poor because of bad choices in life and want everyone to pay for them. They choose not to work, they choose to take drugs and can't pass a drug test. Trump has not cut one spending bill that these people rely on. But he should.

Your talking points are fresh from the brain washing bleeding heart liberal media.


Pathetic. You blame the poor for this countries problems? I hope you don't claim to be a Christian. And I'd take the liberal media brainwashing over heartless 'otherisms' taught in the brownshirt world you are from.

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Stock market gains.

First, we need to understand those gains - for us commoners AND the rich - are all on paper, unless you're selling.

Second, those gains may go away completely, partially, not at all, or somewhere in between. Might even gain more.

Thirdly, and perhaps most importantly, the gains in the stock market aren't helping only the 'rich'. They help the teacher's unions that are invested in the stock market. (and they all are). They help the union people, as they are invested in the stock market, whether they know it or not. The gains also help just about everyone, in some manner.

Those gains may go away, as I said.


Yes. I give you that nickels might become dimes, but millions become billions.

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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
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I give Trump credit on the economy. He has added a huge spark to the upper class economy in the stock market and business "Friendly" sectors. He also passed out some pesos to the peons via tax reform for what good it will do.

Time will tell if the GOP gamble pays off this time around with tax cuts, but history indicates it will NOT.

As for Trump's success on the economy, I refuse to give him any more credit than is due because he inherited an economy already trending up for a long time. I think the stock market is going to be in trouble because the values are not based on companies 'actually' doing well. The Trump effect has caused many stocks to be way overvalued and any idiot can figure out what happens after that.

So the tax cuts mostly help the rich, the stock market gains mostly help the rich, and all the other cuts being done to pay for those things take from the poor and middle class. Yet none of the trumpians see any issues with this. I said before Trump took office that it was going to be the biggest heist the world has ever seen and so far we are right on track.


The rich are not the problem in our society. The rich employee the middle class. Who end up paying for everything. The poor our the problem in this country.

They are not poor because there are no jobs they are poor because of bad choices in life and want everyone to pay for them. They choose not to work, they choose to take drugs and can't pass a drug test. Trump has not cut one spending bill that these people rely on. But he should.

Your talking points are fresh from the brain washing bleeding heart liberal media.


Pathetic. You blame the poor for this countries problems? I hope you don't claim to be a Christian. And I'd take the liberal media brainwashing over heartless 'otherisms' taught in the brownshirt world you are from.


I blame the poor that choose to not work. Choose to take drugs, choose to be burdens on society.


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An argument can be made by many that you and your IQ challenged points of view and narrow-minded ass are a bigger burden on not only America but the human race in general ...just saying

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An argument can be made by many that you and your IQ challenged points of view and narrow-minded ass are a bigger burden on not only America but the human race in general ...just saying


He’s just misguided. He thinks that these corporations that make billions in profits could only give these $1000 bonuses and measly pay raises by getting a tax cut.


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An argument can be made by many that you and your IQ challenged points of view and narrow-minded ass are a bigger burden on not only America but the human race in general ...just saying


He’s just misguided. He thinks that these corporations that make billions in profits could only give these $1000 bonuses and measly pay raises by getting a tax cut.


I find it funny that most are more charitable the better off they are, yet there is this mindset that the poor drag us down. I bet most with this mindset can't state the last time the poor got so much as a nickel from them without pointing to taxes or healthcare premiums.

Yet spending trillions on wars, creating corporate welfare policies, or fighting for a profit driven corporate healthcare system is all great for them!

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Small business optimism is also way up:
http://blog.dilbert.com/2018/01/09/president-trump-earns-highest-presidential-approval-level-time/


President Trump Earns the Highest Presidential Approval Level of All Time

The Small Business Optimism Index hit an all-time high. That’s the new Presidential Approval Poll.

In olden days (pre-2016), candidates for president were not so different from each other. I can remember pundits complaining endlessly about how similar the Democrats and Republicans had become. In that environment, you can easily imagine someone who voted for Candidate A warming up to Candidate B. In those simpler times, a presidential approval poll meant something.

Today, a “presidential approval poll” is little more than taking attendance. If you’re a Democrat, you disapprove of President Trump as a lifestyle choice. If you voted for Trump, you probably still approve of him because you knew exactly what you were getting. And if you are an anti-Trump conservative, you allow cognitive dissonance to rule your brain and you say he’s doing a good job but you disapprove of him anyway. David Brooks accidentally described this phenomenon in this article.

I contend that business optimism — and small business optimism in particular — are the new standard for presidential approval because “economics” captures most of what a president influences.

If a president starts a war, or threatens to start one, the economy flinches.

If a president starts a trade war, or threatens one, the economy flinches.

If a president is tearing apart the fabric of civilization in one way or another, the economy collapses.

If a big terror attack succeeds on the homeland, the economy flinches.

If immigration is allowed in large numbers, the economy feels it.

I could go on. The point is that all of the “big” issues directly influence the economy via their impact on our psychology and our resources. In a free, capitalist country, “the economy” captures all the goodness and badness of a presidency without really trying. And the measure that best reflects the future of the economy, in my opinion, is small business optimism.

Big businesses can do fine with a president who promotes policies that favor big corporations, even if the rest of the country is suffering. But when small business owners are feeling good about the economy, that means the president is doing a more bottoms-up job of getting things right. President Trump has focused on bottoms-up economics from the start, meaning jobs and lessened regulations. Apparently that is working.

I have been telling you for two years straight that psychology drives the economy, and that a Master Persuader such as President Trump can directly influence psychology and optimism. We see him doing that right before our eyes.

At the same time President Trump is “talking up” our economy, he’s talking North Korea’s economy to ruin. If you own a company that is involved in smuggling with North Korea, you probably noticed that South Korea nabbed two tankers that satellite photos spotted cheating. That’s going to be a financial disaster for those shipping companies. The psychology of the corporations involved in smuggling just changed, courtesy of the Master Persuader who has no intention of taking his boot off the North Korean economy until they lose their nukes. This approach is already causing North Korea to get flexible, at least in the talking sense.

Keep in mind that all of the personality negatives that are reflected in the old-timey presidential approval polls are exactly what is scaring North Korea into the arms of “good cop” South Korea. President Trump’s tweets didn’t cause a war; they caused North Korean flexibility, exactly as I predicted.

And if you are still worried about President Trump’s mental health, I’ll do a Periscope later today to tell you how badly the media has abused the public on that topic. For a preview, check out this interview that Dr. Drew did with Dr. Bandy Lee on her opinions of President Trump’s mental health. The media reported her as saying he was mentally unfit. That wasn’t the case. She has no professional opinion on the President’s mental capacity because she has never met him. Her primary concern is about societal violence as a result of his presidency. That is completely different from what has been reported all week. I nominate this story for the Fake News Awards. I think it can be a finalist.

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Job growth for December 2017 was 148,000.

Job growth for October of 2016, before the elections, was 161,000.

Just sayin'.




Just saying....lots of temp jobs open up in Oct/Nov to gear up for Christmas sales. It works that way every year, so I am not sure I get your point.


Ok....I get your point. I am saying you point doesn't paint the picture you want.

The tax cuts are a good thing and are starting to work. Daman talked about Sams club closing 60 sams clubs. Ok...they were under performing. Companies do that. What he didn't mention were bonuses being paid to employees and starting pay being raised.


The person I was responding to mentioned the pay increases and it's funny because I mentioned to them that they were only telling one side by not mentioning the 63 stores closing.

Funny how that works isn't it.


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The rich employee the middle class. Who end up paying for everything. The poor our the problem in this country.


Ewww Boy....There it is. Murica is great agin. Yuup...Let them eat cake.


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DOW just crossed 26000 thumbsup

Stock market peak still at least a year away, fund managers say in Bank of America survey

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DOW just crossed 26000 thumbsup

Stock market peak still at least a year away, fund managers say in Bank of America survey


Easy to do.. Just cut taxes, remove restrictions that Business and Industry find bothersome and there you have it.

But hey, it's ok, it only adds 1.5 trillion to the debt and only the "If Come" will make that work.


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DOW just crossed 26000 thumbsup

Stock market peak still at least a year away, fund managers say in Bank of America survey


Easy to do.. Just cut taxes, remove restrictions that Business and Industry find bothersome and there you have it.

But hey, it's ok, it only adds 1.5 trillion to the debt and only the "If Come" will make that work.



You guys go ahead and keep up the anti Trump, Russian spy, insane racist guy attacks and I will count the money I am making. thumbsup

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Atleast you admit that all you care about in life is money.

That’s progress, I suppose.

Anyway, a ton of Americans are not invested into the stock market. We can argue if that’s a good or bad thing, but the stock market doesn’t determine much of anything.

My stocks are doing great right now. The problem is that I don’t care about it to begin with. I care that companies might be using the loop holes from the new tax rules to pay LESS taxes on the money they keep offshore. I care that companies are continuously shipping “shovel ready” jobs overseas or across the border.

But you continue acting like Scrooge mcduck.

All the money I put into the stock money over the years is money I never cared about to begin with. Essentially gamble money. 100 bucks here or there from paychecks.

I sincerely hope it doesn’t crash again, but it won’t affect me one bit, as I rather keep most of my cash in savings accounts.

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Large businesses only employ about 38 percent of the private sector workforce while small businesses employ 53 percent of the workforce. In fact, over 99 percent of employing organizations are small businesses and more than 95 percent of these businesses have fewer than 10 employees. The reality is that most Americans are employed by the middle class owners of small business that has little in common with the tiny sliver of the business demographic represented by corporate America.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kristie-arslan/five-big-myths-about-amer_b_866118.html


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Originally Posted By: Swish
yes, because we have people on this board blatantly supporting racist.

it's not that hard to grasp.

as far as walmart, they laid off sams club workers while simultaneously "boosting" wages and a one time bonus.

so they didn't really do much of anything.
I was at the grocery store yesterday. They had milk on sale 10 for 10 half gallons. I bought 4 chocolate and 4 2%, you know, so the cashier didn't get any ideas about me not being down. . . . .

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Nice twist but there is more to life than money. But money is good.

I am not a gambler, I am an investor. You gamble, you usually lose.

I put money in the Market and watch it grow. I sell some successful companies to buy lower priced companies and watch them grow. Rinse and repeat.

All the while skimming some profits, buying Treasuries, Gold, Silver and Copper. (savings)

When this market finally corrects downward I will still be in good shape and will be looking to buy again at the bottom with those savings.

Inflation is running at the lowest rate I have seen since forever. It is at 2 percent. So if your savings account is not making a minimum of 2 percent per year, you are losing value and buying power. 50 years ago a man thought if only he could save up $10,000 he could retire in luxury. Well now he is retired and has his $10,000. Good luck with that.

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You sounding like one of those brown supremacists. No love for whole milk?

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I did get 1 whole milk for the little one, i hide in shame.

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Not almond milk? Commie.


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Not almond milk? Commie.
Almond milk is not milk, you want to know how i know? There is no almond boobie now is there?

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Not almond milk? Commie.


All alternative milks are false flag ops from the alt-left.

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If it was sooooo EASY to do ...

Why didn’t their boy do it? .. rofl ...

Business man in office ... WOOOOHOOOOOO ...

GO DONNIE ... GO DONNIE




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Black man in the Oval... Most of the GOP controlled congress and senate didn't want to upset their base and be seen working with a black man.


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AHHH ... another BRILLIANT response in a long line of BRILLIANT responses ... rofl ..

So the repubs were responsible for the handcuffs oBUMa put on our economy ... congress was responsible for all the regs put on every industry ... congress was responsible for all the jobs going to mexico and overseas ..... K .. got it ... rolleyes ...

U folks RULE right up until u engage in a convo with someone that has a 3rd grade or higher IQ .... thumbsup




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
If it was sooooo EASY to do ...

Why didn’t their boy do it? .. rofl ...

Business man in office ... WOOOOHOOOOOO ...

GO DONNIE ... GO DONNIE


There boy was all about apologizing for American success and weakening America.

Global O is now doing something he is more qualified to do, talk shows.

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Better than goat milk


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AHHH ... another BRILLIANT response in a long line of BRILLIANT responses ... rofl ..

So the repubs were responsible for the handcuffs oBUMa put on our economy ... congress was responsible for all the regs put on every industry ... congress was responsible for all the jobs going to mexico and overseas ..... K .. got it ... rolleyes ...

U folks RULE right up until u engage in a convo with someone that has a 3rd grade or higher IQ .... thumbsup


Well when you finally get that high of an education you can win a debate too!

You and 40 in here throwing rocks at Obama for putting us on the path Trump is enjoying! How did the Markets go from 8K to 19K during those eight years that started with a total collapse and GOP leadership that said no to everything?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/republican-party-obstructionism-victory-trump-214498

You guys can yuck it up all you want, twisting facts and living in a surreal alternate reality but here in the real world we know what happened during Obama's time in office.

Revisionist banter be damned.

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Not almond milk? Commie.


All alternative milks are false flag ops from the alt-left.


George Soros funded.


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So the repubs were responsible for the handcuffs oBUMa put on our economy


What handcuffs? The economy grew steadily. The Unemployment rate dropped drastically. If it wasn't for 8 years of GOP obstructionists and a govt shutdown it would have been much much better, but they couldn't have that could they..... A successful black president in the WH.

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congress was responsible for all the jobs going to mexico and overseas


Nope, corp crooks like "Donald Twitter" are responsible for that crap.


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O is now doing something he is more qualified to do, talk shows.


While "Donald Twitter" thinks he's still doing a reality show.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
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Not almond milk? Commie.
Almond milk is not milk, you want to know how i know? There is no almond boobie now is there?


Of course not, they have teats.



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Please hide that Almond before "Donald Twitter" grabs something.


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