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Nice reply, but I was just talking about how I like to research players. I wasn't trying to debate the two qbs in that particular post.

I get why people like Darnold. I won't try and change their minds. I usually only speak up when people put up false information.

Yikes. All Darnold and Bortles have in common is the wind up. Darnold is far more accurate down the field. He was also more accurate in his ball placement. He reads defenses at a more NFL ready level than Bortles did in college too.

Go back and watch Darnold against Ohio State. Watch his ball placement. Especially while having to move IN the pocket. His accuracy on the move was also on display. There’s a particular play. A throw to the sideline that he threw low and outside, basically out of bounds, but still catchable ONLY by his WR. The DB has no chance of making a play. That kind of placement goes beyond just accuracy. Bortles was not this good in college.
If you watch the entire game you can see him on the sidelines. He’s very level headed. You can see frustration that things aren’t going the team’s way, but you can see that it doesn’t make him dwell when he makes a mistake. He goes back out and throws for over 300 yards in the face of an overwhelming pass rush. He’s a leader.
I love Rosen’s skills. But if there’s any question in the FO about his attitude, or medical concerns, I’m all in on Darnold.

Looking at when I started this thread on 11/19 my views have not changed.

Since then I have gone back and watched additional tape that confirms my original take.

Darnold would have a 70% completion rate if half the drops were caught. He puts the ball right there most of the time.

Rosen has that classic form but the results don't vary much between them. I like both a lot.

But in the end I prefer Darnold. My concerns with Rosen center around concussion and injury. I think long term Darnold is the better fit for the Browns.

I'm not willing to risk the Concussion thing with Rosen. It's as simple as that.

My one and only true concern with Rosen. Unfortunately, its a big one.

I am going to be surprised if White stays on the Board very long .. In fact I have been saying for some time that there is going to be one crazy run on QB's in this Draft !

Darnold is growing on me more and more..

I can’t jump on the Darnold band wagon just yet, he does a lot that I like, I just can’t get over the release. I like my QBs to have a good quick release. I know there have been times when it’s improved for some once they get to the NFL but I’ve seen where muscle memory takes over and they revert back also.

If we do take Darnold let's hope we give him that one season to sit and learn unlike what we've done in the past.

If we do take Darnold let's hope we give him that one season to sit and learn unlike what we've done in the past.

I think there could posibly be 5 selected in the first round, Rosen, Darnold, Allen, Jackson, and Mayfield.

I can’t jump on the Darnold band wagon just yet, he does a lot that I like, I just can’t get over the release. I like my QBs to have a good quick release. I know there have been times when it’s improved for some once they get to the NFL but I’ve seen where muscle memory takes over and they revert back also.

If we are drafting him then it means we didn't sign Cousins. That being the case he will be the day one starter as would any QB we draft at #1.

JMHO, like Darnold over Rosen because- physical traits/no concussion problems (HUGE), family background (played lots of sports and EXCELLED in all), both parents teachers/ instilled good traits/work habits AND known as flatliner or something close- he stays level headed- Rosen has to much Manziel in him for me- party animal/political/rich family etc.....Darnold is REAL young- like Kizer.....hope we pick up a good place holder and use most of first year as learning experience....GO Browns!!!

Razor...there are other FA QB pickups besides Cousins that could start ahead of our Rookie investment.
Cousins will only sign a long term contract so we can assume that does put a damper on our QB investment early in this draft.

Actually its probably the only way that your guy Mason Rudolf will have a possibility of making it to our roster at #33 or #35.

If we do not sign Cousins and do so with another that might be a 3 year contract or trade (not too much) and get ourselves what is spoken of as a Bridge QB we can still teach the QB pick and hold off on his era. Probably most likely somebody who was on the Viking roster last year.

jmho

I'd love to have Keenum on a short deal, but I don't think he'd want to come here. I do love how he uses VR though. He needs to bring that approach to Cleveland. I wanted to make a thread about it, but I didn't want to challenge traditional views and freak out neo-luddites in one post. I try to keep those spheres separate!

Had a video of one of those VR QB simulation systems come across my twitter feed. Guy squealed when he saw the pass rush.

When I tried to find it again, I came across this instead:
http://sportsvts.com/sports-virtual-training-systems-press-announcement/

Sounds pretty wild.

If we draft Darnold, we need a veteran to give competent play til Sam is ready. It would be a bonus to get more than that, but I don't expect us to sign an established starter. Chase Daniels (or similar) seems about what we should expect.

I'd roll with Kizer again if this was our only option.