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I just attributed to the Hue Haters Club.  If criticizing a coach that had a part (significant part, as he's the head coach) in a team going 1-31 is being a hater, then go ahead and get me a cute little pin and put my name down on the list. How can you expect anyone to take you and Vers seriously when you're just as bad as the ones Vers calls out in every. single. post... I still don't understand why it's even considered hate. Irritation, exasperation, frustration, sure. I guest "the exasperaters" is a little clunky of a name to keep typing.
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 What is he wearing? Is he wearing a t-shirt over a collared shirt? How can expect this person to make good decisions if he dresses like this? Maybe it was a little cooler than he hoped and threw on a sweat shirt. The high there today was near normal at 61 or so.....but it's been cold, the low was probably a little cooler than normal. Might have dropped to the low 40's And now for the rest of the story behind the sweatshirt... Don’t sleep on Cleveland Browns GM John Dorsey’s new sweatshirt Dorsey means all business in Cleveland https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/24...-new-sweatshirt
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Him not seriously going after and landing players Hue wanted and purging players he didn't certainly seems like it to me. To me it seemed he was setting Hue up to fail a long time ago. I think he let the power go to his head and got too arrogant in thinking he just knew better than everyone even though they had decades more football knowledge than him.
I mean I'm sure Sashi is a smart man but lets face it. Putting him in charge was not much different that grabbing a random fan from the stands when you look at his actually qualifications to be a GM. What would be Sashi's motivation to set Hue for failure? I honestly don't recall any moment where Sashi threw Hue under the bus,quite the contrary... Another thing that lacks explanation is, why would Hue Jackson sign for the Browns, with so little power? He was in excellent bargaining position when he signed with us,so why would he sign a contract that made him a puppet? Also,all this theories don't explain what happened between the lines of the field.. the lack of preparation, the lack of execution, the lack of game plan. All and all you are not being fair to Sashi (which I also don't like). But you have to give him credit for standing for his Head Coach, and even taking the fall and remaining quiet after all his staff ganged up on him. In the end the Browns miserable showing were due to the lack of football knowledge, and from what I know, Sashi was never meant to be the football guy in the organization, Hue was.
Possibly things were "SAID" on how they were going to do things that Hue might perceive of him having power, enough to agree to come here. Then as time passed on found the true meaning of "FINAL SAY".
I don't think Hue wanted us to trade out of 2 and not get us a QB. I don't think Hue thought we were going to release Haden. Those are just two but possibly there are more where Hue found out the true meaning of "FINAL SAY".
I think the statement made by Dorsey was more to the fact we didn't go heavily into FA to get guys ready to play and lead this team. Not rookies who have TALENT but ready to play prime time players.
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I just attributed to the Hue Haters Club. If criticizing a coach that had a part (significant part, as he's the head coach) in a team going 1-31 is being a hater, then go ahead and get me a cute little pin and put my name down on the list. How can you expect anyone to take you and Vers seriously when you're just as bad as the ones Vers calls out in every. single. post... I'm not asking you to take me seriously. Go ahead and side w/the crew that hijacks every single football thread and are now dissing Joe Thomas as a liar and a paid lackey. Seriously!
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I just attributed to the Hue Haters Club. If criticizing a coach that had a part (significant part, as he's the head coach) in a team going 1-31 is being a hater, then go ahead and get me a cute little pin and put my name down on the list. How can you expect anyone to take you and Vers seriously when you're just as bad as the ones Vers calls out in every. single. post... I'm not asking you to take me seriously. Go ahead and side w/the crew that hijacks every single football thread and are now dissing Joe Thomas as a liar and a paid lackey. Seriously! Like he did here?
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I just attributed to the Hue Haters Club. If criticizing a coach that had a part (significant part, as he's the head coach) in a team going 1-31 is being a hater, then go ahead and get me a cute little pin and put my name down on the list. How can you expect anyone to take you and Vers seriously when you're just as bad as the ones Vers calls out in every. single. post... I'm not asking you to take me seriously. Go ahead and side w/the crew that hijacks every single football thread and are now dissing Joe Thomas as a liar and a paid lackey. Seriously! Like he did here? Has anyone actually called Joe a 'liar'?
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Perhaps you should read what I wrote again. I did not use the word "called."
When posters say things like he is only saying these things because he is a "paid lackey" and that we shouldn't believe him because we don't have a link that he was in the room when Hue was hired or when another poster says that Joe is only saying those things because Hue is still here, etc, etc........than yeah.........your crew is certainly insinuating that Joe is lying.
I find it disgusting, but go ahead and keep defending your crew.
Now, I'll check out of this thread for a bit because I see what you two are trying to do.
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I just attributed to the Hue Haters Club. If criticizing a coach that had a part (significant part, as he's the head coach) in a team going 1-31 is being a hater, then go ahead and get me a cute little pin and put my name down on the list. How can you expect anyone to take you and Vers seriously when you're just as bad as the ones Vers calls out in every. single. post... I'm not asking you to take me seriously. Go ahead and side w/the crew that hijacks every single football thread and are now dissing Joe Thomas as a liar and a paid lackey. Seriously! Like he did here? Has anyone actually called Joe a 'liar'? Not that I have read it's a trick used by a certain poster.
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Him not seriously going after and landing players Hue wanted and purging players he didn't certainly seems like it to me. To me it seemed he was setting Hue up to fail a long time ago. I think he let the power go to his head and got too arrogant in thinking he just knew better than everyone even though they had decades more football knowledge than him.
I mean I'm sure Sashi is a smart man but lets face it. Putting him in charge was not much different that grabbing a random fan from the stands when you look at his actually qualifications to be a GM. What would be Sashi's motivation to set Hue for failure? I honestly don't recall any moment where Sashi threw Hue under the bus,quite the contrary... Another thing that lacks explanation is, why would Hue Jackson sign for the Browns, with so little power? He was in excellent bargaining position when he signed with us,so why would he sign a contract that made him a puppet? Also,all this theories don't explain what happened between the lines of the field.. the lack of preparation, the lack of execution, the lack of game plan. All and all you are not being fair to Sashi (which I also don't like). But you have to give him credit for standing for his Head Coach, and even taking the fall and remaining quiet after all his staff ganged up on him. In the end the Browns miserable showing were due to the lack of football knowledge, and from what I know, Sashi was never meant to be the football guy in the organization, Hue was.
Possibly things were "SAID" on how they were going to do things that Hue might perceive of him having power, enough to agree to come here. Then as time passed on found the true meaning of "FINAL SAY".
I don't think Hue wanted us to trade out of 2 and not get us a QB. I don't think Hue thought we were going to release Haden. Those are just two but possibly there are more where Hue found out the true meaning of "FINAL SAY".
I think the statement made by Dorsey was more to the fact we didn't go heavily into FA to get guys ready to play and lead this team. Not rookies who have TALENT but ready to play prime time players.
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Choosing the toilete paper isn't the same thing has a HC having a say on his QB, you know that, you are just playing dumb. Regarding the functions, duties and responsabilities of a Head Coach, this is generaly covered by contracts, so you are playing dumb again. I honestly do not understand what's your point... Hue was handed a duty, he signed into the project, so if he thought this wasn't what he signed for he should have quit. Imagine if we all act like Hue and started blamming our bosses for our failures... I know I wouldn't last long in my job..
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There are only 32 of these jobs, so if the terms of the one you have change after you get it, you just do the best you can. Let's be honest, though, this job, and team, changed greatly from the time Hue was hired, up through opening day of year 1, and especially year 2.
The idea that Hue should have quit because the terms of his job changed is as idiotic as the idea that the way the job changed didn't affect the results on the field. A coach gets only so many shots at one of these jobs, so suggesting that he should have walked away .... well .... I cannot even believe that a rational person would suggest it. I don't know what kind of work you do, but I bet you have a far wider range of employment options than an NFL head coach does. To make such a comparison is dishonest, at best.
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Versatile Dog: Go ahead and side w/the crew that hijacks every single football thread and are now dissing Joe Thomas as a liar and a paid lackey. Seriously! bbrowns32: Has anyone actually called Joe a 'liar'? Versatile Dog: Perhaps you should read what I wrote again. I did not use the word "called." This is like Bill Clinton saying he smoked marijuana but didn't inhale.
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Yeah I was curious what "dissing Joe Thomas as a liar" meant.
I should probably find out because I'm sure I'll be labeled as such.
It's also interesting how one person says something, it gets twisted, and then somehow gets attributed to dozens of posters. Heaven forbid I try to defend myself and get accused of making things personal.
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Versatile Dog: Go ahead and side w/the crew that hijacks every single football thread and are now dissing Joe Thomas as a liar and a paid lackey. Seriously! bbrowns32: Has anyone actually called Joe a 'liar'? Versatile Dog: Perhaps you should read what I wrote again. I did not use the word "called." This is like Bill Clinton saying he smoked marijuana but didn't inhale. Memphis starting trouble at 7:11 A.M. LOL I explained that while people didn't use the word "liar," they are still saying that he lied when they say he is a "paid lackey," or saying things like Joe wasn't in the room when Hue was hired or that he is only saying those things because Hue is still here or that he is only saying those things because the Browns paid him to do. All of those things and more paint Joe as a "liar" even if you don't use the exact word.
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Versatile Dog: Go ahead and side w/the crew that hijacks every single football thread and are now dissing Joe Thomas as a liar and a paid lackey. Seriously! bbrowns32: Has anyone actually called Joe a 'liar'? Versatile Dog: Perhaps you should read what I wrote again. I did not use the word "called." This is like Bill Clinton saying he smoked marijuana but didn't inhale. Memphis starting trouble at 7:11 A.M. LOL I explained that while people didn't use the word "liar," they are still saying that he lied when they say he is a "paid lackey," or saying things like Joe wasn't in the room when Hue was hired or that he is only saying those things because Hue is still here or that he is only saying those things because the Browns paid him to do. All of those things and more paint Joe as a "liar" even if you don't use the exact word. Stop hijacking every thread. You are being an intentionally deceitful poster...again.
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Memphis brought it back up. Not I.
Besides, this thread is addressing our current and past front offices and Joe Thomas' comments were also about both.
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There are only 32 of these jobs, so if the terms of the one you have change after you get it, you just do the best you can. Let's be honest, though, this job, and team, changed greatly from the time Hue was hired, up through opening day of year 1, and especially year 2.
The idea that Hue should have quit because the terms of his job changed is as idiotic as the idea that the way the job changed didn't affect the results on the field. A coach gets only so many shots at one of these jobs, so suggesting that he should have walked away .... well .... I cannot even believe that a rational person would suggest it. I don't know what kind of work you do, but I bet you have a far wider range of employment options than an NFL head coach does. To make such a comparison is dishonest, at best. I have seen nothing to indicate the terms of Hues job changed. What i have seen on the part of Sashi was a strict adherence to The Plan. The Plan he signed on for didn't change. There may have been some outcomes he nor they expected, but the terms and his purpose didn't change. Now if Hue found it difficult to navigate those outcomes, i certainly don't blame him, but he has some choices to make: A) suck it up buttercup B) try to affect changes to The Plan And if he can't make B happen, he needs to refer to A... Or simply decide if its worth being here. But it all comes down to being committed to what you signed on for and agreed to. I'd bet people have to make that ethical choice all the time in other fields.
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It's odd how people on a message board think they know what went on behind the scenes in Berea. They know who had the power, who was responsible for the QB picks and how everything went down. Yet Sashi was fired and Hue was kept. They act as though this was done on a whim. That there weren't reasons for this.
Then act like anyone who questions that have the issues. lmao
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It's odd how people on a message board think they know what went on behind the scenes in Berea. They know who had the power, who was responsible for the QB picks and how everything went down. Yet Sashi was fired and Hue was kept. They act as though this was done on a whim. That there weren't reasons for this.
Then act like anyone who questions that have the issues. lmao Not sure what to tell you. If you want to erroneously keep thinking Hue didn't have any say in the quarterbacks here no one can stop you I suppose.
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Nor can they stop people believing that Hue's great desire for an answer to the franchise QB position was Kessler, a third round pick rated between rounds 5th and 7th and an inaccurate Kizer at pick #52, the fourth overall QB taken in the draft.
Those picks are the picks of analytics, not a football guy.
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Well, Hue wasn't given anyone he didn't want. So....
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Hue didn't want Wentz or Watson...
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Nor can they stop people believing that Hue's great desire for an answer to the franchise QB position was Kessler, a third round pick rated between rounds 5th and 7th and an inaccurate Kizer at pick #52, the fourth overall QB taken in the draft.
Those picks are the picks of analytics, not a football guy.
Just to show what kind of guy Hue was...when The Boys started getting a raft of crap from the fans and media over the Kessler pick, Hue made it sound like he made the pick with his "trust me" comment..thus taking the heat off The Harvard Boys.
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Nor can they stop people believing that Hue's great desire for an answer to the franchise QB position was Kessler, a third round pick rated between rounds 5th and 7th and an inaccurate Kizer at pick #52, the fourth overall QB taken in the draft.
Those picks are the picks of analytics, not a football guy.
Just to show what kind of guy Hue was...when The Boys started getting a raft of crap from the fans and media over the Kessler pick, Hue made it sound like he made the pick with his "trust me" comment..thus taking the heat off The Harvard Boys. He didn't nail anything. This is completely false.
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Nor can they stop people believing that Hue's great desire for an answer to the franchise QB position was Kessler, a third round pick rated between rounds 5th and 7th and an inaccurate Kizer at pick #52, the fourth overall QB taken in the draft.
Those picks are the picks of analytics, not a football guy.
Just to show what kind of guy Hue was...when The Boys started getting a raft of crap from the fans and media over the Kessler pick, Hue made it sound like he made the pick with his "trust me" comment..thus taking the heat off The Harvard Boys. He didn't nail anything. This is completely false. Especially considering the definition of what analytics wants seems to change when convenient to the defend Hue Jackson. Kessler was a 3rd round pick with great collegiate production but undersized with questionable physical aspects and little upside. Kizer was all physical upside in the 2nd round with poor collegiate production but an incredible skill set. They're totally opposite to one another, night and day, so how is analytics saying they need to be the selections? If analytics said no to Wentz, how can it say yes to Kizer? If it said yes to Kessler, how can it say no to Watson or Trubisky? Doesn't really make sense.
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Nor can they stop people believing that Hue's great desire for an answer to the franchise QB position was Kessler, a third round pick rated between rounds 5th and 7th and an inaccurate Kizer at pick #52, the fourth overall QB taken in the draft.
Those picks are the picks of analytics, not a football guy.
Just to show what kind of guy Hue was...when The Boys started getting a raft of crap from the fans and media over the Kessler pick, Hue made it sound like he made the pick with his "trust me" comment..thus taking the heat off The Harvard Boys. I think that is your opinion. Those guys leaned on Hue. Kessler was a Hue pick.
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It's amazing how the Hue Hate Club speaks as if they know what went down and then act like Joe Thomas is not telling the truth.
I don't know how it went down because I am not part of the team. I won't even pretend to know. What I do know is that I believe Joe Thomas more than I do some guys who have pimped Sashi for two years and slammed Hue consistently once the losses piled up.
I also have read reports of guys like Parcells, Wolf, etc being brought in for advice on how to proceed. Hue is here and Sashi was fired. I think those guys know more than some blowhards on a message board.......and yeah, I will include myself in the latter group.
You guys should stop. You are embarrassing yourselves. Just admit that you were wrong. Doing so would actually mean you are the bigger man.
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Where are these reports of Wolf, Parcells, etc being brought in. All I've heard of it is from you.
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Maybe you should try Google. Ironically, you might find out that you're wrong and thus save you the embarrassment of posting false information.
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Where are these reports of Wolf, Parcells, etc being brought in. All I've heard of it is from you. If there were reports they would produce them...he's the first to demand links but never seems to provide them.
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I post links and you two and rest of the Hue Hate Club dismisses them. In fact, you are one of the guys who are accusing Joe Thomas of not telling the truth.
I'll have to leave this thread for awhile again because it would be me that Willie suspends.
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Where are these reports of Wolf, Parcells, etc being brought in. All I've heard of it is from you. Tony Grossi reported that Wolf and Parcells were part of the decision to sign Dorsey, with both endorsing Dorsey. There is a lot of eye rolling and suggestion that Grossi tried to sensationalize. The general thought is one of obvious process - When considering a potential hire Dorsey, Haslam contacted people who have worked with him to get some background perspective, and they gave him a glowing recommendation. The same way we all put references on a CV. Of course, Grossi being Grossi, wrote with overtones of Haslam having no idea what he was doing and essentially calling random people to see who they recommended. I think it's more likely Haslam considered Dorsey his A1, and simply chose to talk to those who knew him best. It was Wolf, ESPN Cleveland has learned, who strongly pitched Dorsey to Browns owner Jimmy Haslam. In one of Haslam’s previous GM searches, he sought to interview Eliot Wolf, Wolf’s son who is now considered the heir-apparent to reigning Packers GM Ted Thompson.
Haslam consulted with Wolf and Bill Parcells, who also recommended Dorsey, it was learned. Haslam signed up Dorsey – technically an unaffiliated free agent talent sleuth with a great reputation – before he could be interviewed for the vacant opening with the New York Giants, or other future openings.
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Where are these reports of Wolf, Parcells, etc being brought in. All I've heard of it is from you. Tony Grossi reported that Wolf and Parcells were part of the decision to sign Dorsey, with both endorsing Dorsey. There is a lot of eye rolling and suggestion that Grossi tried to sensationalize. The general thought is one of obvious process - When considering a potential hire Dorsey, Haslam contacted people who have worked with him to get some background perspective, and they gave him a glowing recommendation. The same way we all put references on a CV. Of course, Grossi being Grossi, wrote with overtones of Haslam having no idea what he was doing and essentially calling random people to see who they recommended. I think it's more likely Haslam considered Dorsey his A1, and simply chose to talk to those who knew him best. It was Wolf, ESPN Cleveland has learned, who strongly pitched Dorsey to Browns owner Jimmy Haslam. In one of Haslam’s previous GM searches, he sought to interview Eliot Wolf, Wolf’s son who is now considered the heir-apparent to reigning Packers GM Ted Thompson.
Haslam consulted with Wolf and Bill Parcells, who also recommended Dorsey, it was learned. Haslam signed up Dorsey – technically an unaffiliated free agent talent sleuth with a great reputation – before he could be interviewed for the vacant opening with the New York Giants, or other future openings. Thanks BDU See how easy that is Vers you could have saved a lot of time by linking it in the first place!
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I'll have to leave this thread for awhile again because it would be me that Willie suspends. So, Willie's your ref pick of the week. Do you still think I'm a ref?
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Grossi for once is actually on to something. I commented about it a while back, but I don't read Grossi. For the most part he's awful and dumb.
Haslam can't think for himself. Always asking what people think about the job he's doing and what he can do better. At least there's that, but he doesn't know who to listen to... too many voices.
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I hope all the posters are seeing what guys like Vambo, jfan, device, and Cle are up to..........yet again. It's not about the truth. It's about personalities and agendas.
That is why I didn't post a link. It gets posted and it's irrelevant to those guys and they just turn it around and keep on w/the personal insults. If I fight back, I'm the one who gets suspended. Pffttttt............
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If I fight back, I'm the one who gets suspended. Pffttttt............ Do you really think your suspensions are due to fighting back and not for provoking?
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
- John Muir
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The guys that were here before, they didn't get real players.
A week after hearing of that comment, I just sort of think maybe it could have referred to the times they traded down.
Who is the best player available, BPA,
if nothing else mattered and there were no team needs, just each player on his merits, who is the best one.
College or Pro, the Browns are up first in College and have at least a "small" chance to lure Pros
Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Well, Hue wasn't given anyone he didn't want. So.... I'm not sure how anyone can come to the conclusion that Hue is the one who botched the QB position yet he was kept and Sashi was fired. I mean none of that makes any sense.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Well, Hue wasn't given anyone he didn't want. So.... I'm not sure how anyone can come to the conclusion that Hue is the one who botched the QB position yet he was kept and Sashi was fired. I mean none of that makes any sense. Agree a HC going 1-31 they kept none of that makes any sense.
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