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Why do you continually post worthless garbage?

I was reading though the posts from our last game and I thought we got blown out by reading your drivel. And we actually won by double digits.

Dude, go root for Golden State.

Worthless garbage is every single thing you post, don’t like it don’t read it. I care zero about anything you say, so stop wasting internet and replying. A lot more see what I see than your pathetic no one does no wrong views

Another 30+ point quarter.

LOL............you sound pretty upset for someone who doesn't care what I say.

Love had to have his hand xrayed. Didn’t look good

This defense is just atrocious. Worst I’ve ever seen from a lebron led team

Except Lebron is not the leader. Lue is.

Looks like love is going to miss time, another all star game missed from injury

Damn lead, the Cavs are now winning at halftime. You sad, bro?

Kevin out 3-4 weeks?

It's his left hand, so that's a little bit of good news. And we'll have a break for the All Star game, which Kevin will miss.

He can spend those 3-4 weeks at my house..

LOL.........you so crazy, Eve.

Some thoughts on the first half:

--Our D is once again horrible. I said it at the beginning of the year, but we can be as good or as bad as our D is. Thus far, it's been bad.

--TT is a huge addition to the starting lineup. Some guys don't understand BB, but he does so much of the dirty work and opens things up for LeBron and our outside shooters.

--Losing Love sucks.

--I don't care for IT's attitude. And he plays zero D.

--Frye has some offensive skills, but man, he is beyond soft.

--Detroit is under-manned and we probably were not jacked to play them, but talent should win out and we should get the W.

What did IT think would happen if he tried to shoot over Drummond?

IT is a turnover machine. TT getting destroyed by a real nba center. This starting unit not good, really bad without love in it

Wonder if IT gave Love the ok to miss time

TT is getting destroyed? LMAO...............Dude, you are beyond clueless. Almost all of Drummond's baskets are because TT has to switch onto a guy who beat another Cav and then Drummond cleans up.

You should stop embarrassing yourself. Wait.....most folks probably think you are right. LOL

I hope things get better, but I am not a fan of IT's game or personality here in Cleveland.

I always thought he was the one who started fights w/opponents in Boston, but damn man, it seems he is starting fights w/his teammates here in Cleveland and he is sucking ass.

Okay. Finally IT to the bench and LeBron and TT both in. Let's make a run.

LeBron is a turnover machine.

Detroit lost 7 of last 8, trade two of their best players, work the Cavs like a d league team. Lebron and IT competing for most turnovers, zero defense played. The team is done. Hold on to the picks and get rid of some of these contracts. It’s over

Great adjustments Lue. No idea how he still has a job

Me and my big mouth. I really thought we would pull it out in the second half.

At least lead is happy.

I was kinda hoping we would trade for Avery Bradley. He has been injured this year, but he is a 2 guard who can defend as well as any 2 guard in the league and his O has improved over the years.

That's probably over now since he was part of the Blake deal, but he is the kind of guy we need.

I wonder if we could somehow go after him and Lou Williams?

We aren’t getting past Boston with IT on the team.

He needs to be gone.

IT sucks...and if the reports are true that he's Gilbert's BFF, thats going to be a big problem, I don't think anyone on the team likes him..its been the case everywhere he's been. He's an abrasive personality and has a face you want to punch. But god he's so exposed here.. With boston and Brad Stevens he succeeded because Stevens is a top 3 coach and knows exactly how to maximize him. Here we have Lue, who has no clue.. He thought putting TT in the starting lineup would magically make the defense better, it doesn't, TT/Love/Frye all can't defend the post. Now with Love out, going to be interesting to see if we make any moves...dude seems to always be hurt for big stretches of the season.. I love his game, but If i can get a decent return on him, you have to consider it. I'm not sure theres enough moves we can make to fix what ails us. I hate the thought of being a buyer if it includes picks. I'd rather sell to get out from under these contracts. JR/TT/Shump all need to be moved, their production could be replaced cheaper with younger players. Lebron is really looking like 2010 right now..he doesn't seem to have that drive and looks like he's just going through the motions

We would undoubtedly have to ship out picks or other assets to unload JR or Shumpert (or accept some 'bad' money from another team.) It's a little harder to put a value on TT.

That said, there are some weird trades in the NBA sometimes. It only takes one other team to make a trade.

yeah the Detroit trade as an example of a weird trade, Detroit overpaid big time for Griffin

We are going nowhere without Love. We were probably going nowhere anyway, but without Love, we're toast.

I realize that Isiah Thomas is still trying to "work himself back into playing shape," but I think I've seen enough. This team seems to have more turnovers in the fourth quarter than any team in the league. Isiah gets caught in the air a lot and has to dump it to someone who is usually not looking. Any close game is not going to swing the Cavs' way.
JR brings nothing.
Crowder has been a disappointment.
LeBron makes some poor decisions.
TT is one dimensional offensively.
Love was/is the scapegoat for everything.
The bench plays with more enthusiasm and passion.
None of the starters hustle on defense. Hell, there was a five on two break last night on a normal rebound.
The team chemistry at this point is horrible and these guys are not playing for each other.
I think Thomas is a bit of a locker room cancer.

((Shrugs))

IT has been back for all of 2 seconds. Too soon to make any calls on that.

j/c:

Cavs must be winning right now because no one is posting about the game right now.

Lebron IT and wade on the floor at same time might be the worst lineup in the history of basketball. Not surprising that it was at the behest of Lue

Ut oh...........they must be losing now. LOL

TT would be playing in China if it wasn’t for lebron

Wanna bet?

Hyperbole much?

obviously, but it is the worst lineup we could possibly put out there...there is ZERO movement, its like whoever gets the ball after halfcourt is playing iso for the whole shot clock. IT is just bad, I don't think more time is going to fix, its a fitment issue. Since IT has started, he and lebron on the court together are a +/- of -90 . Obviously Lue hasn't a clue or you atleast get Rose minutes with the starters. With rose in for 5 minutes last night we pulled ahead, Lue goes to the lineup mentioned and they go on a 14-2 run. not Coincidence. I blame Lue more than IT, IT is who he's always been, he's doing exactly what he's always done and Lue is allowing it, but its hurting the team overall. I still think we have more of a coaching problem than a player problem, but guys like TT and JR aren't doing themselves any favors. They absolutely need replaced...that DJ/Williams trade has to happen. I actually am glad Lue put the kibosh on trading Frye for Hill, you don't trade a big for a small, thats a unspoken rule. But just because Lue can't find minutes for Frye isn't Frye's fault, dude has produced when given minutes...theres no way TT should be taking ANY minutes from frye, and thats what happened when TT came back. Lue is forcing these guys back into the lineup and forgetting about the ones that we had when we won 18 of 19. Like I said, we have a coaching problem more than a player problem.