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in regards to Kizer, I'm just not sure that one of his biggest flaws (accuracy) will ever be improved.

He's wildly inaccurate and an awful decision maker ... not a good combo

Father Time keeps marching on. He has been marching along. He has been marching on me for longer than most of you.

Trade a middle/late round pick for Landry Jones + draft a rookie QB.

The Browns seem to be pointed in the right direction.

IF Hue and Haley are able to work together it should lead to productive offense that utilizes the skillset of their personnel.

Its probably hard for Browns fans to feel optimistic though.

There are so many directions that makes sense in terms of the Browns QB position each option with its own philosophy.

Case allows the opportunity to win some games and draft a potential "franchise" QB.

IMO whomever we draft should sit behind the vet that we sign. I posted sometime back in August that we should do that very thing with DK, that he was no near ready to start. Letting both Josh and Brock go was a mistake. We should have kept one of them and let DK sit. Let's not make the same mistake again, please. We have an opportunity here to really turn things around. We have the right people in place, plenty of cap space and an abundance of draft picks. We're in a good spot, let's not mess it up.

I do think Hue wanted to keep McCown. I don't think it was Hue's intention to start Kiser but he was so much more talented than any one else we had plus Hue felt pressure to win. Hue felt Kiser have him his best chance to get wins. Hopefully Hue gets his veteran QB this year and we become a winning team.

So it was part of the evil Sashi plans to cut Josh so Hue had no viable QB?

FOLES

FOLES

I believe that the browns are picking hopefully the best QB at the no. 1 spot and if a bridge QB.is just as important as it seems to be ......then I hope they get FOLES till the hopefully franchise QB. is ready and I happen to think Foles could be what we need .
You can disagree if you want .....its all good

So a buddy of mine and I were brainstorming and playing out all of the scenarios of drafting quarterbacks, signing quarterbacks, and trading for quarterbacks and seeing which would end up with the best roster/future for our team.

Of course, this is outlandish, but based on the picks, money and trade values, it all seemed to work out, and this was the absolute dream scenario that we came up with.

First off, you sign Cousins to a 5 year $147 million dollar contract with $82 million guaranteed. This is 10 million more than Garrapolo, and is likely a pretty close to what we would have to offer to get him. It is a lofty price tag, and he "probably" isn't worth it. However, franchise quarterbacks do not come available on the free market, and when you have the most cap space available in the league, and no quarterback, you do what you have to do.

So now, with a quarterback in place, we can start dealing draft day.

1st pick overall traded to Denver for their top pick (#5), their second rounder this year (#40), their 1st round pick next year, and Aquib Talib. Word is that they have been trying to move Talib. He is a head case, but there is no doubt he is one of the top corners in the league, and we need one, so he is a nice add on.

At pick 4, we take Saqueon Barkley. This is assuming that he does not go in picks 2-3, but I think the Giants take a QB, and the Colts either trade out to someone (jets maybe) or take Chubb.

So with pick 5, we trade to Buffalo for picks #21, 22, 53 and their 2nd rounder next year.

With these 2 trades, we have picks 4,21,22,33,35,40,53,64,65 plus an extra 1st and 2nd next year.

So then, we projected that we trade picks 22 and 40 for pick 12, and pick Derwin James.

We trade picks 21, and 64 for pick 15 to pick Orlando Brown.

We trade picks 35 and 53 for pick 24 to pick Josh Jackson.

At pick 33, we pick Courtland Sutton. And we pick BPA at pick 65.

So, in conclusion, we get Cousins, Talib, Saqueon Barkley, Derwin James, Orlando Brown, Josh Jackson, Courtland Sutton, and pick 65 PLUS an extra 1st and 2nd rounder next year.

I know there are a lot of moving parts, and a lot of ridiculousness in this scenario, but my point being, by getting Cousins it frees us to do whatever we want to make our team better immediately! We would have so many options and so much maneuverability to do any number of different things. Of course getting Cousins is no sure thing, but I feel we have the cap space to outbid anyone, and can convince him we are serious by building the team around him. This is why, I want Cousins!!

I'm always hoping we draft the next great QB. This year I am so tempted to say take the running back at #1 and a QB at #4 if you can't sign Cousins. I don't see a huge difference between 1,2,3, and 4 in the QB's this year. All of them have question marks next to their name. Almost everyone says Barkley is the real deal. Fast, hits the hole quickly, he has tremendous balance, vision, cutting ability, elusiveness, and power. Look at what Elliott did for the Cowboys last year. Look at how much they missed him this season... Probably won't happen. Browns never get players like that. But I sure wouldn't complain about having a guy like Barkley on the team. Any QB we have is going to get killed if we don't start running the damned ball!

I sign A.J to mentor ROSEN and build around them with all the spare money.

Maybe it is just me, but I do not see what AJ has done to show he would be a good mentor. Especially with Rosen. They are not the same kind of QB.

This past month I have seen AJ described as a bridge QB, and also as a more than a bridge QB. What has he done to show he is worth anything?

Sashi was in charge of the 53 man roster. You can slice that and dice that any way you wish.