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they would have to show probable cause to the judge in order for said judge to sign off on the warrant.

apparently, they did just that.

This is a FISA warrant to spy on American citizens.
It has its own set of rules to get.
Lying to the Judge and withholding information is criminal.

well you have to prove that

A. they lied to the judge, and
B. they withheld information from the judge.

both things clearly lacking from the memo.

then, that would mean the judge signed off on something he wasn't suppose to.

if you believe in a deep state, then sure, you think thats the case.

They lied to the judge and withheld the fact that their need of the warrant was based on that dossier.
That is unConstitutional. That is criminal.

The judge was misled into signing for the warrant or he also broke the law and went against the Constitution.

AND? That's all you got from it? Hmmm, having hired and fired countless people over the years I came to the conclusion that I hired the wrong people at times....ooops...so what. Still going strong!

proof?

again, clearly missing. i see a lot of speculation though.

so until i see proof that they lied and withheld information which made a judge decide to knowingly approve a warrant based on a false premence, then there's no reason to take to heart anything you or other trump supporters have to say on this particular topic.

Here, once again, is your proof...

The memo pointed out that in December 2017, then FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe testified that “no surveillance warrant would have been sought” from the FISA court “without the Steele dossier information.”

Yet everyone knows a FISA court won't ever issue a warrant on just one piece of evidence. There had to be other evidence. They're cherry picking.

Yet everyone knows a FISA court won't ever issue a warrant on just one piece of evidence. There had to be other evidence. They're cherry picking.

Hey Perfect, who produces the evidence that the FISA court rules on?

Both the New York Times and the Washington Post yesterday ran editorials calling for prior restraint on a memo written by the duly elected chairman of the House Intelligence Committee after he and his staff reviewed classified documents related to the so-called Russia investigation. These editorials are a stain on American journalism, much like the Japanese internment camps were a stain on the record of the Supreme Court. They should — and, I think, will over time — regret them.

I have no idea what is in this memo, but it’s a memo. It’s speech. It’s from the very staff and people our Constitution assigns to oversee the Justice Department and the FBI. And the elected officials who wrote it think I should see it. The people who don’t want me to see it are the elected officials and leaders of the Democratic Party, the institutions and individuals whose actions are being reviewed, and several of the same newspapers that went to court to publish the “Pentagon Papers.”

For about a year, anyone who wanted to could read the secret “dossier” prepared by GPS Fusion and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party. I urge people to read it. It’s obvious nonsense. It’s not “unverified.” It’s been discredited. Its major allegations, aside from being preposterous, have no basis in fact. The idea that something, anything, could be found in it that is true — such as that Trump adviser Carter Page went to Moscow — does not rehabilitate it.



And, despite crystal-clear federal election rulings that campaigns must identify the ultimate recipient of the funds for opposition research, the fact that Democrats paid for the dossier was stonewalled for a year — and we found out about the source of funds only after the very same House Intelligence Committee went to court and pried it out.

A fired FBI director, James Comey, leaked memos he wrote on his own with no oversight, supervision or review, and the New York Times gladly printed reports of them. The Washington Post even editorialized that the people should “see the memos.” We heard no argument from either newspaper then that publishing these Comey memos would damage the presidency or be misleading.

So mainstream journalism today tells us we should see the dossier, even if it’s filled with junk, and read the Comey memos, even if they have no verification — and, yet, be prevented from reading the report of the House Intelligence Committee based on documents that it took the committee six months to pry out of the FBI and Justice Department.

I believe in the First Amendment, and I thought that mainstream media did too. I did not see it as a doctrine of convenience that applied only to documents that buttress one side but then not applied if it might conceivably help the other side.

Let’s remember what has been found and disclosed about what was going on at the FBI. Andrew McCabe made crucial decisions related to these investigations and, yet, his wife received more than $500,000 in contributions for a state senate race from Terry McAuliffe, a Clinton confidante. McCabe stepped down from the FBI this week.

FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page traded 50,000 texts detailing unprecedented bias for and against the subjects of investigations and discussed an “insurance policy” should Trump get elected. They were removed from the investigation and are under investigation by the inspector general of the Justice Department.

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James Baker, who it is believed leaked the dossier to Mother Jones during the campaign, and who was general counsel of the FBI, has been “reassigned.” James Rybicki, Comey’s chief of staff, who was also under criticism, left the government. And Associate Attorney General Bruce Ohr was separated from the government, apparently because he had undisclosed contacts with Fusion GPS and, it turns out, his wife was even working for that company.

So it’s a fact that six senior leaders of the FBI or Justice Department have been either reassigned or fired based on facts that have come out largely from the work of this committee and of the inspector general of the Justice Department. Yet, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes(R-Calif.) is being branded almost as a lunatic. The hypocrisy here is not confined to newspaper editorial pages. We have seen a veritable news blockade on information coming out of these investigations on the front pages.

In the last Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll, we read people a list of recent facts that have come out and almost all of them were unknown to the public, even when prompted. A majority did know that Comey had drafted the memo on the Clinton investigation long before the investigation was over. But most people did not know who paid for the dossier, and most had not heard about the text messages and their reference to an “insurance policy” in case Trump was elected. After hearing this information, 75 percent said it was significant and 63 percent said the FBI needs to be investigated.

Whether the Nunes memo is a smoking gun or a pop gun, it deserves to see the light of day — and the editorial writers should think about how they came to support prior restraint over sunshine and open debate. Perhaps more importantly, the news pages need to stop covering a story that has brought down six senior officials as just partisan sniping and recognize that the actions of the FBI and the Justice Department in relation to both these investigations need to come out of the darkness and be fully revealed to the American public.

Christopher Steele, Andrew McCabe, James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, Peter Strzok, Lisa Paige, and many many more should all go to jail. The FBI/DOJ were corrupt and in bed with the Democrats.

James Comey was a GOP hero in Oct 2017.

Christopher Steele, Andrew McCabe, James Comey, Rod Rosenstein, Peter Strzok, Lisa Paige, and many many more should all go to jail. The FBI/DOJ were corrupt and in bed with the Democrats.

Rod Rosenstein was nominated by President Trump, is he really in bed with the Democrats?

Rod Rosenstein was nominated by President Trump, is he really in bed with the Democrats?

One of my fav comments from this article is below:

'FBI memo is published and reveals James Comey used golden showers dossier to get surveillance warrant even though top officials KNEW British spy who wrote it was paid for by Hillary'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5344921/Trump-green-lights-release-explosive-Nunes-memo.html

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James Comey threatened the President of the United States by dumping a dirty dossier on his desk that he knew to be false. He also cleared Hillary Clinton of any wrongdoing before he even investigated it and then lied under oath about it. He needs to be punished accordingly.

This is so funny, Paige's history with Russian SPIES had nothing to do with SEVERAL JUDGES issuing surveillance warrants!

That's why the left, Comey, and the despicable law breaking ilk you admire are still running around with their hair of fire. Face it "hombre" - your team is the only ones guilty of collusion to conspire against the US and its people. GAME OVER>

Well said

J/C

So basically this shows the entire investigation STARTED with the dossier, which was made up and not collaborated. Hmmm, which then led to MILLIONS of tax payer dollars on more investigating fake claims - fake allegations - all the while CRAPPING on the US Constitution and American Citizens Rights. Sorry Dems, this is a BIG DEAL. .

The left can can try to spin this all they want. The FBI says they have "grave concerns" because there’s a lot of information left out of this. Material facts have been omitted. Well, then by all means tell us what they are! The Memo is out, and if it’s wrong, and if material evidence has been omitted, if Nunes didn’t tell the whole story, then by all means fill us in FBI. We don't need the Dems to spin this, give the info you have.

Doesn't matter if he was or wasn't, if you are signing a warrant - you are complicit in it. If Rosenstein didn't due his due diligence, he is accountable. If he knew about this, even worse. But unlike Hilary, "not knowing what a crime is" doesn't mean one was not committed.

Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., also harshly criticized the release of the memo.

"In 2016, the Russian government engaged in an elaborate plot to interfere in an American election and undermine our democracy," McCain wrote in a statement Friday. "The latest attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice serve no American interests – no party’s, no president’s, only Putin’s. The American people deserve to know all of the facts surrounding Russia’s ongoing efforts to subvert our democracy, which is why Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation must proceed unimpeded. Our nation’s elected officials, including the president, must stop looking at this investigation through the warped lens of politics and manufacturing partisan sideshows. If we continue to undermine our own rule of law, we are doing Putin’s job for him."