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Don't forget the importance of having an intelligent #3 QB who can run the scout team offense week in and week out. Having a good scout offense helps the defense tremendously, and a QB with smarts and experience is vital to a good scout offense.
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You should stop using the Quick reply if you are replying to someone in particular.... I never said anything about Yin/Yang or even Winslow.
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Don't forget the importance of having an intelligent #3 QB who can run the scout team offense week in and week out. Having a good scout offense helps the defense tremendously, and a QB with smarts and experience is vital to a good scout offense.
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And don't forget Chud's own quote about the guy that wins the job between Charlie & Derek will be foremost the guy that best understands what the heck he is supposed to be doing. 
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You should stop using the Quick reply if you are replying to someone in particular.... I never said anything about Yin/Yang or even Winslow.
if u know that... and i know that... why even respond then?
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This is funny,,, so Frye is in the lead,, Yet in another article posted on another thread, Peter King doesn't even mention Frye in the mix..... Cracks me up that opinions vary so widely on QB's...... 
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because it looked like you were responding to me and even said "You", which implies that you ARE responding to me... and then I got halfway through the first sentance and was thinking "wth is he talking about?".
It's not a big deal, it just looks silly to me to see reponses using words like "You" directed at a specific individual and the response isn't even directed at the person you are responding to ...and it ruins the conversation threading.
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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I've said several times for all of the reasons that Big C has mentioned that I don't expect Anderson to make the team.
I see the importance of Dorsey. I don't see the importance of Anderson if he isn't named the starter. (Which I don't expect to see)
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If you listen to peter king,, Frye doesn't exist,,, so He must think Anderson is a mortal lock 
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I am to the point I don't care which one of them plays because we are pretty much doomed no matter which bum plays.
Get Quinn in so he can begin his 21/2 yr trial period to see if he has it or if we need to start looking again.
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i clicked the reply link this time...
and im saying to u... blahh blahh blahh blahhhh
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... " blahh blahh blahh blahhhh " Sorry , that is not allowed . not pure football
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Sorry , that is not allowed . not pure football
lol.. im sorry.. i apologize..
i just know that im not the only one on here who doesnt ALWAYS use the reply feature... especially if its PLAIN AS DAY that im not responding to you.. and if its obvious that im not responding to u, why even say anything?
back to this QB race.. Frye is leading.. and the o-line is working well together
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I could give a rats ass who takes the snaps.. Just throw more TD's than INT's and try not to " Loose " the game ! ... We might could play 500% ball this year ..
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Found these little tidbits: Link PLAYER OF THE WEEK: Joshua Cribbs -- Cribbs would be a 60-minute player if it were up to him. He returns kicks, is the front-runner at punt return and covers kicks and punts as the leader of special teams. In the morning practice July 28 he took the ball from Derek Anderson on an end-around and fired a touchdown pass to Mike Mason. In the afternoon practice he ran a crossing pattern and caught a pass from Charlie Frye inches off the ground. Frye threw it low intentionally to avoid the defender .
CB DeMario Minter is wearing a walking boot after spraining his ankle.
There are some other good items on the page, but thought I would throw these out there as an appetizer.
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i think i saw Minter on one of the clips off the homepage, and it looked like he had a cast/wrap thing around his entire leg, and not his ankle... maybe it was someone else..
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So, Anderson, according to you, showed promise and could be a starter at the end of the season last year. Then, without playing a single game since then and only 3 days of camp, he is a "bum"? Man, you would have me laughing if it wasn't so sad. 
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If Quinn seems like he is getting it and makes good progress toward being able to be the #2 without being overwhelmed, then keeping Dorsey is the perfect solution.
If Quinn is struggling to get acclimated and up to speed, then I could see us going the route of burying Quinn as the #3 and keeping both Frye & Anderson as a means of "protecting" Quinn until he's actually ready.
OK, you've made a point that I hadn't even considered - that Quinn could potentially be the #2. I've never stacked him any higher than #3 which leaves us in need of a #1 & #2 which in my opinion can only be Frye & Anderson.
With Quinn's holdout, transitioning to the Pro level, and learning a new offense I can't imagine how he could possibly be ready as a #2 before week 9-10 at the best.
That leaves us stuck with F & A until then which leaves Dorsey cut.
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If somehow Quinn could miraculously find it in his heart to sign the contract  , get into camp, learn, compete, and demonstrate that he was ready to be the #2 before the end of the preseason (and man that's a LOT to hope for from a rookie in four weeks) then we could potentially keep Quinn and Dorsey.
I'd love to see it happen because it would mean RAC is staking his job on Quinn as #2 since he's so confident, but I just don't see it.
If Dorsey is such a genius and a great coach let's hire him to coach. If he's so great at running the scout team let's hire him to run it. Nothing says that coach can't run the scout team or throw the ball in practice.
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So, Anderson, according to you, showed promise and could be a starter at the end of the season last year. Then, without playing a single game since then and only 3 days of camp, he is a "bum"? Man, you would have me laughing if it wasn't so sad.
Dude, I am getting sick of you and will fix it after this post.
Everything is in the context of the team. When you have Bum A and Bum B, you pick one of the two.
In an ideal world, neither would be my choice.
You are dismissed.
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When we all take a look at every QB the Browns have in camp or made commitments too we have what we have... Frye is the guy now because our veteran NFL coach doesn’t believe that anyone loses their job to an injury... IMO. Frye does not look like NFL starting QB material as of yet... I don't feel he is... Big fish in a little pond in college, with only an adequate arm and game mentality. Every time CF throws a grounder or one hopper to a WR it brings back summer memories of fielding hundreds of ground balls during baseball practice... DA is a physical proto typical NFL QB prospect... Beyond that he is a #3 @ best... I've watched him play for the past 4+ years and he lacks the mental skills to be consistent with his reads, throws and decisions... Big guy with a good arm... He stunk @ OSU West... Look at the tape on him, if "it's" not there right away and he doesn't read "it" or he doesn't get or somehow buy 4 seconds he doesn't perform very well... Most of the time he folds under pressure... Maybe with time...? I don't see it happening... You only get so many chances in the NFL... Dorsey reminds me of most of Ohio States QB's... Was surrounded by great teams in college... When asked to produce on his own ability/merit he's unable to do so... When you get to the NFL a QB has to have it all... KD clearly doesn't... NFL teams need 4 arms for t-camp... IMO.. The Browns best hope for a decent season offensively is to get BQ signed, in camp and get him on the field as the starting QB ASAP! BQ has what it takes to be a very successful NFL QB. He has far more potential and upside than any of the other QB's on the current roster. Weather BQ becomes what he can, remains to be seen... BQ sign your deal and get your arse in camp... Your favorite dinner is ready on the table... Sit down and eat it... @#$%^&*()__)(*&^%$$^* how much is enough...? Let's play some football!
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LOL, again, YOUR WORDS were that Anderson had shown you promise during his time playing last year and had potential. Now he's a bum. Of course, EVERY QB has been a bum that has been here according to you, even Garcia. It's kinda weird that Garcia isn't a bum when he gets to Philly. I don't care if you're "sick" of me. I'm sick of people always blaiming whichever QB has had the misfortune of playing with a terrible OL and running game and pimping the backup at every turn, only to turn on them on a week or so, throw out unfounded conspiracy theories at every turn and drawing laughable conclusions out of simple situations. How about you remedy THAT. Oh, and you have been "dismissed" as a person to seriously discuss football with for a few years now.
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I'm sick of people always blaiming whichever QB has had the misfortune of playing with a terrible OL and running game and pimping the backup at every turn
And there are way too many off them.
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And according to all you internet GM's...
You know, you toss that term around as though you don't include yourself in the list of those who think they know the right from the wrong, the good from the bad and the talented from the untalented.
It might be a good idea for you to get off your numerical high horse and admit you are every bit the "internet GM" you accuse others of being.
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if u know that... and i know that... why even respond then?
Because I don't know that, and it sometimes forces me to scroll back to see just exactly what it was that Purp said that you are addressing because I care about what both of you are saying.
Click on the person to whom you are responding and it avoids all confusion. On the other hand, if you're only going to add a line or two in response to no one in particular then by all means use the Quick Reply if you wish. That's what it's there for.
Don't be an ass about it.
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It might be a good idea for you to get off your numerical high horse and admit you are every bit the "internet GM" you accuse others of being.
At least I have patience. And I don't go around calling our individual players bums, losers, # so and so, pathetic, scare crow brain, Forest, etc.
There's a difference between myself as an internet GM, and the rest of these internet GM's that are all about the flavor of the week. Look at all these guys pimping Quinn as the savior of the franchise right now, watch how fast they turn on him after a bad game. They make absurd expectations for him and the rest of our players, then when they do not meet those absurd expectations they turn on them quicker than Aaron Burr turned on Alexander Hamiliton.
Expecting Quinn to be one of the greatest QB's of all time is just a tad but too high of expectations. Yet, many Browns fans really think that's going to happen. I feel sorry for Quinn, because these fans are going to turn on him bad unless he becomes the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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They make absurd expectations for him and the rest of our players, then when they do not meet those absurd expectations they turn on them quicker than Aaron Burr turned on Alexander Hamiliton.
You're preaching to the choir bro.
I gave up long ago in trying to make that point clear. New guys always get the biggest props here. Even if they haven't played yet. Potential is the biggest asset. Of course, everyone's not like that. Luckily there's enough even tempered members to balance it all out.
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They make absurd expectations for him and the rest of our players, then when they do not meet those absurd expectations they turn on them quicker than Aaron Burr turned on Alexander Hamiliton.
You're preaching to the choir bro.
I gave up long ago in trying to make that point clear. New guys always get the biggest props here. Even if they haven't played yet. Potential is the biggest asset. Of course, everyone's not like that. Luckily there's enough even tempered members to balance it all out.
So True....
Browns fans are a passionate bunch. We want a winner so bad that we are impatient with the wait, and attack any portion of the status quo we perceive to be a problem, whether the portion we attack is a problem or not. Perception is all that matters.... 
Couch/Holcomb.... Dilfer/Frye.... Frye/Anderson.... Frye/Anderson/Quinn...
Most of the posters fall in love with potential, because they think the current reality sucks.... Even if the even tempered posters, who try to take a wait and see attitude, get attacked, told their opinions suck, they know nothing about football, and stats are for losers..... 
We are all Browns fans.... We all want to see the Browns win... We just have different ideas as to how it can happen... 
The Cleveland Browns - WE KNOW QUARTERBACKS ( Look at how many we've had ... )
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There's a difference between myself as an internet GM, and the rest of these internet GM's
There is only one true know it all internet GM, and your reading his post right now 
I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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There's a difference between myself as an internet GM No you're a internet stat fanatic..thats about it.. Look at all these guys pimping Quinn as the savior of the franchise right now, watch how fast they turn on him after a bad game. U get so dramatic about whats being said..who said that? Expecting Quinn to be one of the greatest QB's of all time is just a tad but too high of expectations. Expecting you to debate in a reasonable manner and stay inbounds is too high of a expectation either. 
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J/C.....I heard Mortenson on WKNR this morning talking to Rizzo and he was VERY high on Frye after watching camp. He said that the competition is bringing out the best in him. He also mentioned that there was "no doubt" the Browns have "vastly" improved the team and he thinks they will go 7-9.
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7 - 9 sounds about right, that would be realistic with a bit of hope in there.. the pessimist in me says 5 games.. the optimist in me says 8.
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Yes I heard that too...Rizzo said that he felt BQ would be in by the end of the week.
What I'm anxious for is the preseason games so we can see the offense sputter..lol...
Kidding aside I want to see the team and how it is improved.
I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT lathergic look they had last year from little hitting in camp.
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No doubt that last Pre-Season was a Precursor to the regular season . For those of you who will start the Pre-season means nothing , think again. 
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I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT lathergic look they had last year from little hitting in camp.
I agree...and I also don't want to hear how we don't want to show too much in pre-season if we do struggle on O.
We aren't going to hold anything back except for possibly a few trick plays.
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Yeah, everything is just "vanilla" in preseason, as they say. Preseason or not, you still need to show me something.
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