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He's going back to Oakland?


lol... One can only hope. fingerscrossed


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I hope we sign Jarvis Landry.

I wouldn't mind Pryor in addition to Landry. He's proven that he is better than any other WR on our team--other than JG--and Hue obviously knows how to use him.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I hope we sign Jarvis Landry.

I wouldn't mind Pryor in addition to Landry. He's proven that he is better than any other WR on our team--other than JG--and Hue obviously knows how to use him.


Yeah, I get that and understand your POV. My FA choice would be Allen Robinson, if we can't get him I'd be happy with Landry. I also think it's a deep draft at WR, so with Gordon, Coleman, Robinson/Landry, and Draft pick, (plus whoever remains from our stable of developing guys), I see no need to sign Pryor. He has skills, but he's not polished and he gets bitchy when the balls aren't coming his way. I don't mind that kind of fire in a #1 guy, but I don't see him as having earned the right to throw tantrums on the sideline. I'm just fine moving on without him. The makeup of that WR room will be vastly different this year, I believe.

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I have to side with you on this one. If we're going to sign a FA WR, let's sign a real WR. And I NEVER count on Gordon for a 16 game season! I mean, how can we?


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Dorsey,

Get TP back in Cleveland!


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I certainly get not counting on Gordon, that's why I'd sign Robinson or Landry and still draft and Equimineous (sp?), DJ Chark or Simmie Cobb. (I don't think we get a shot at Ridley or Sutton.) I just don't see a need for Pryor.


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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Dorsey,

Get TP back in Cleveland!


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I hope we sign Jarvis Landry.

I wouldn't mind Pryor in addition to Landry. He's proven that he is better than any other WR on our team--other than JG--and Hue obviously knows how to use him.


I do too. We have Gordon and Coleman on the outside. Jandry would be in the slot. He'd be the best slot WR we've had.

Wouldn't mind Pryor back at all. Insurance for either outside WR in case of injury or whatever. He may even beat Coleman outright to start.


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I would love to add Landry and Pryor.

I would not stop there, though. We have to staring WR right now who have a ton of question marks. Who knows if Coleman will stay healthy enough to play a whole schedule, and who knows if Gordon will stay clean?


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Landry only, please. We need someone who can reliably catch the ball.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I hope we sign Jarvis Landry.

I wouldn't mind Pryor in addition to Landry. He's proven that he is better than any other WR on our team--other than JG--and Hue obviously knows how to use him.


I do too. We have Gordon and Coleman on the outside. Jandry would be in the slot. He'd be the best slot WR we've had.

Wouldn't mind Pryor back at all. Insurance for either outside WR in case of injury or whatever. He may even beat Coleman outright to start.


Hopefully our WR corps is in much better shape than needing Pryor’s help ... he’s WAY OVERRATED on here .... this isn’t 2 years ago ... we better be better than needing him or sumptin is amiss with the new guys ...

I’d rather have a YOUNGIN with POTENTIAL than this dude ...




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How young is Landry...and trust you on this one:
How are his hands? Key to me on FA from now on.

Gordon can be a great plus but we cannot rely on that 100%.
Was looking forward to Duke in the slot. Although I don't mind Duke, Landry and Coleman manning the outside as well.

Now a days its can be anyone in the slot or outside, I know a TE but I would include Njoku in any plans outside or slot also.

Not a big believer in an investment in the draft unless one falls to us with a sure BPA value.



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EXCELLENT hands .... EXCELLENT ...

Sumptin we don’t have a lot of around C-town .. actually we have NONE OF THOSE ... thumbsdown




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Yep, Landry is a catch machine.

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Originally Posted By: DeputyDawg
Yep, Landry is a catch machine.


Modern day Anquan Boldin.

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Landry would be a no-brainer IMO


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Landry would be a no-brainer IMO


The only thing that might be a hangup, and I don't think it would actually matter, would be Landry's friendship with Odell Beckham. OBJ was very upset with Briean Boddy-Calhoun after he hit him low in the preseason and Landry also commented (https://twitter.com/God_Son80/status/899800614720360448). I doubt that would matter if the money is right, but it's something to consider.

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Landry would be a no-brainer IMO


The only thing that might be a hangup, and I don't think it would actually matter, would be Landry's friendship with Odell Beckham. OBJ was very upset with Briean Boddy-Calhoun after he hit him low in the preseason and Landry also commented (https://twitter.com/God_Son80/status/899800614720360448). I doubt that would matter if the money is right, but it's something to consider.
Yeah, that's a slight chance, but a thought


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted By: eotab
How young is Landry...and trust you on this one:
How are his hands? Key to me on FA from now on.

Gordon can be a great plus but we cannot rely on that 100%.
Was looking forward to Duke in the slot. Although I don't mind Duke, Landry and Coleman manning the outside as well.

Now a days its can be anyone in the slot or outside, I know a TE but I would include Njoku in any plans outside or slot also.

Not a big believer in an investment in the draft unless one falls to us with a sure BPA value.


Landry has great hands. He is, however, a slot receiver. That would be great for us.


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tab......Landry is 25.

We would have to throw huge money at him given our QB situation. Thanks Sashi. But, the guy has great hands and can run after the catch. He is my number 1 FA target.

Someone said Pryor was way overrated on here. LMAO. Everyone has been bashing him. All I know is that he far out performed Coleman, Higgens, Louis, Britt, and the other chumps that have been here the last couple of years. It's not like it's hard to upgrade that pathetic unit. Thanks Sashi!

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WOW ... Pryor must be REALLY REALLY GOOD to have outperformed that AWESOME LIST of WR’s ... rolleyes ...




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I didn't say he was really, really good.

I said he was better than what we have other than JG.

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
WOW ... Pryor must be REALLY REALLY GOOD to have outperformed that AWESOME LIST of WR’s ... rolleyes ...


Pryor didn't fare well in Washington, but he was suffering from an ankle injury that required surgery in November. Before going on injured reserve, he appeared in nine games, catching 20 passes for 240 yards and a TD, almost the same as what Britt did here before the Browns cut him.

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JC...

Not so sure on Pryor, I mean if he comes as a depth signing I'm fine with it...Just hope he's not our heralded signing at the position. He has shaky hands, and is starting to come down with those dreaded soft tissue leg injuries....He sucked at Washington because he dropped the ball often, and was only making very short completions as he lost his quickness last year. That said Terrelle Pryor can step in right now and be our starting wideout providing he's healthy...Thats how bad our core is...And you always have to add insurance considering Josh Gordon is one instance away from being gone forever.

Not sure if some people are wondering about Jarvis Laundry hands...He has perhaps the best set of hands behind Antonio Brown in the NFL (its up for debate) He runs strong despite his size, runs great short to intermediate routes, has very good field vision with awareness, he has nice nimble cuts/jukes-which makes up for his lack of blazing speed....but he's still quick enough to get things done. I think we need to come away with Landry as a must have.

I'd be ok with TP as a backup plan, but we have a lot of picks and there's some nice young talented guys in this years draft.

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Tru...........you are a good poster, thus I want to explain my thinking to you.

I want Landry as our top guy. I want us to sign him more than I want us to sign Cousins. He is my #1 FA.

After that, seeing as how pathetic Sashi left us at WR, I think Pryor might not be a bad second level signing. He certainly outperformed Coleman, Louis, Higgens, etc when he was here.

We can't hit huge homeruns w/every signing. However, I think signing Landry and Pryor would help improve the WR unit from where it currently stands.

This isn't me "pimping" Pryor. It's me trying to be realistic.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
Tru...........you are a good poster, thus I want to explain my thinking to you.

I want Landry as our top guy. I want us to sign him more than I want us to sign Cousins. He is my #1 FA.

After that, seeing as how pathetic Sashi left us at WR, I think Pryor might not be a bad second level signing. He certainly outperformed Coleman, Louis, Higgens, etc when he was here.

We can't hit huge homeruns w/every signing. However, I think signing Landry and Pryor would help improve the WR unit from where it currently stands.

This isn't me "pimping" Pryor. It's me trying to be realistic.


Oh no problem whatsoever, I too don't want us to leave the cupboard bare at WR like Sashi had done so...And nomore bonehead decisions when giving older lackadaisical wideouts huge paydays (I knew when both Bowe and Kenny Britt were flown in, I wanted us to steer far away from them)

I absolutely cant stand our core...Richardo Louis, He released early on a down field block earlier in the year...We would have had a TD as Crow was breaking it downfield..But Louis is soft, puts in a half ass effort in special teams...Noted many poor efforts him on special teams...Heck I called out our then special teams coach for even having Louis out there...I dont even need to mention of him attempting to be a WR, I called it on draft day that his absolute ceiling is as Heyward Bey...Fortunately for Heyward Bey he's a special teams stud, and Louis will be out of the NFL soon.

Higgins is a step ahead of Louis imo, I would not mine him growing and sticking as our no.5...Gordon is a legit #1, however we all know how he is hanging onto his last chance. Corey Coleman is oft injured, and his ceiling is as a no. 2/3 in all honesty, Sammie Coates is so damn bad (and heck, I was hoping Pitt would release or trade us Heyward Bey instead of Coates) Hoping this front office kicks him to the curb asap.

That being said we have a big need for a prime time receiver whom is not hanging onto his last chance to remain in the league. I would show Laundry the money, and I'm sure Hue can draw up more plays then Gase did so in Miami. We will have a true WR threat whom plays through the whistle while actually catching the ball....that hasn't been said here in Cleveland in awhile.

I totally agree in Pryor despite having a rough 2017 is better than our garbage pile...What really makes me like TP, is that he seems to really want to play in Cleveland...and when's the last time we heard of someone really wanting to play in Cleveland (I mean of course before we gave them a big pay day) Those two should really change our culture...A true standout stud WR, and a big target whom actually wants to be here...I just didn't want TP to be our main signing...I want Jarvis Laundry to be announced as a Brown first thing on opening day in FA.

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Nice post.

I can't stand Louis. The dude drops a ton of balls and is terrible on special teams. One of Sashi's biggest errors is how he devalued special team's players and thought sticking guys like the wuss Louis out there would be good enough.

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The hypocrisy of the NFL I suppose...

Jarvis Landry.

He's been fined for "crotch grabbing" after scoring a touchdown.

He was involved in a domestic dispute caught on camera.

He's been ejected from a game for instigating a brawl and disrespecting an official.


Just say no to Mayfield, but say hello to Landry. Fascinating.

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Just say no to Mayfield, but say hello to Landry. Fascinating.


In all fairness, the QB is usually the face of the franchise. That's who is the ambassador to the Browns. That's why their behavior is held to a higher standard. They're the ones getting interviewed after every game, etc. The spotlight is always on them.

Jarvis Landry, whether signed or not, will not be the face of the franchise next year. He's the guy catching the ball from the face of the franchise.


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Desirable free-agent destinations

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7) Cleveland Browns

BELIEVE! Young talent! Top pick in the draft! No. 4 pick in the draft! Six selections in the first 65 picks! John Dorsey, a widely respected football guy, taking the franchise reins from the Ivy Leaguers and baseball dudes!

Oh, and did I mention more than $110 million in cap space?!

Fresh off the second 0-16 season in NFL history, Cleveland's in position to own this offseason, comfortably boasting the most draft currency and real currency in the entire league. Anyone who helps turn around this long-downtrodden organization will earn heaps of external praise -- and internal satisfaction.

The only question -- and one that could give free agents pause -- is Hue-bris Jackson's future. The guy's 1-31 as head coach of the Browns. How long is his leash in Year 3?

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That's why their behavior is held to a higher standard. They're the ones getting interviewed after every game, etc. The spotlight is always on them.



I'm actually not ok with wife beaters at any position. Each his own I guess.

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I'm actually not ok with wife beaters at any position. Each his own I guess.


Is this Landry? I read something about domestic something, but I didn't know if it was assault on a female or what.

Didn't look into it.

Honesetly, if that's the case, I'm with you. Don't want that. (at least on the surface)

Haven't had much time to look into the FA's yet, but I've seen him play and he's good. But if he's beating on women, no need. There's other players out there.

I hate it when we sign guys with that kind of a past (Cosey Coleman)

EDIT: Either way, my point stands. QBs are held to a higher standards because they're the face of the franchise

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Girlfriend declined to press charges. He appears to have been somewhat "menacing" in his approach to her, but it was almost more of an inadvertent bump, if he bumped her at all. Its hard to tell.

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Laundy is a great player, a questionable person. In the end I would sign him.

Pryor, his boat has floated as far as I am concerned. We'd be better off with Laundry, Gordon, Coleman, a drafted talent, probably Higgins. Thats's 5, so 1-2 more, not sure who. Maybe another drafted player and another FA.

I'd move on from Louis as well. I agree with Vers. He doesn't bring much to any area of the game. Too bad, I had hope for him when he was drafted. I am not even sure I would bring him to camp. But, we do have a new receivers coach and O-coordinator. Maybe they should get a look first. Maybe they can find something our last coaches couldn't. Sometimes a change of coach is all a player needs.


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25 and hands...definitely a guy that we should throw some money at and I don't usually look for us to invest in WR that much. But the time is right.

Also I think the term slot WR is a been over done. I would like my WRs to be outside and inside and be able to run the routes and understand the concept of the play regardless of where they line up. I think the Pats have proven that.

Mostly I see a guy who is under 6' everyone analysts and posters over use the term Slot WR. I don't want WRs that can only run certain routes. I wish for them to be able to play anywhere. I don't like to be predictable. So I don't care if we put Coleman and Landry outside and Gordon in the slot one play and then Duke in the slot with Gordon and Landry outside.

Or go with Duke and Landry in the slots with Quads and Gordon and Njoku on the outside.

Or stack them...catch my meaning.

There is no OH NO he's a slot WR and we need an outside guy?
Hey if he has great hands and can run good routes and understands football and the concepts of route trees being utilized...I don't care about the moniker.

So give me 5 Slot WRs all with great hands and run great routes and GETS IT...I will give you a Championship crew - IF WE GOT THAT QB RIGHT!

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She probably was too scared to press charges as many women are... and he offered her something nice in return.

And no, no concrete evidence but suffice she didn't press charges the NFL dropped it. In my mind hard to call a charging man and a woman falling back into the car an inadvertent bump.

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Another second tier guy to consider is Danny Amendola. I believe he is a FA this year.

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I think people underestimate our receiving corps because of our quarterback situation.

Get a QB and things are different. I know Gordon and Coleman only played part of the season, given a full seasons with a stud QB and those guys could be pro bowlers. Gordon, Coleman, and Higgins would be just fine. Not saying we should not get another WR or 2, but I think some simply underestimate who we have.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
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Girlfriend declined to press charges. He appears to have been somewhat "menacing" in his approach to her, but it was almost more of an inadvertent bump, if he bumped her at all. Its hard to tell.


Sorry but that is not Domestic Violence...I think things are going a little too out of hand. Just cause there is a video and people are going shocked that doesn't mean he did something.
btw was she drunk, looks like he was telling her to first get back in the car before she did a drunk thing and endanger herself. Also she moved over to the passenger seat to let him drive. She could easily have gotten out the other side.

But that was not domestic violence and any media using that term should be ashamed of themselves and a disservice to all those women who actually have Domestic Violence done against them. I mean look at the Rice video and then that one...come on how can that remotely have the response of violence!

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