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It's going in the Smithsonian and not the oval. Most Smithsonian portraits are far more casual. Obama will be hung in the Smithsonian with noted Hand Theft FDR. I'm not sure if FDR's portrait is racist or not. Need more conservative opinions.



It'll go right next to fellow Comfy Boy, GWB.




and GQ modeler/part time President Richard Nixon.

Not really, I'm an old white guy... Nice try though.

I'm not sure but it would take a lot more paint.

One day Donald Trump decides that he wants to have Caravaggio make a couple portraits. There's one problem though: Caravaggio has been dead since the 1600s.

President Trump just wants the famed painter for a day, so he approaches God with an offer. The President will tone down some of the rhetoric and make an effort to be more inclusive in exchange for two weeks of Caravaggio's time.

"You I can't do that", God says.

"1 week and I'll increase funding for the homeless and poor."

"No, no, no, no, no, no", as God throws his hands up in disbelief. "What don't you understand?"

"1 day and I'll personally donate $10 million to the charity of your choice."

And that's the story of how Donald Trump got Caravaggio to paint his Presidential portraits.

Oh boy, I'm going to get flamed so hard for this that I might literally burst into flames in front of my monitor.

Just one question...

When God went to Trump's office to accept the deal, did God have to knock?

j/c:

What? You aren't going to stand up for feminists and complain about GWB and his patriarchal manspreading?? It just screams oppression

Hell has no door.

Speaking of standing up for feminists, is Bill Clinton still torqued about his presidential portrait?

Wait a second: I thought all presidents were of the same race.

Where is the equality. (There is no race or "African American ism" anymore) All people are equal it is 2018.

I love that you guys have such a crush on a crybaby with dementia that you've literally placed him on a pedestal above God.

J/C

Dont care about the artist, dont care about the subject, personally it just looks dumb to me. I dont understand the bushes.

Michelle doesnt look like that either.

Actually, after studying a lot of Presidential Portraits, I've found that it's very rare for a President's legs to be included. I think this act is racism and reserve-ableism. I'm not sure why these painters are so against legs and therefore the white race, but they need to be stopped. It's sick that our Presidents would allow so many racists non-leg painters to paint them.

that actually made me laugh out loud.

Artwork looks like crap.

Poor choice for a former president to choose a person many will consider to be a racist to paint his portrait.

If the shoe was on the other foot (just switch all the skin colors) the world would be outraged.

Obama continuing his long legacy of healing America's racial divide.

People are totally missing the point about Wiley's paintings. He references art of the past. In particular art from the 17th-19th century. The floral pattern is often shown in Victorian era painting, especially works by William Morris. Wiley's other paintings reference the paintings of white men in power (and women/Queen Victoria) from Europe's past centuries. He puts a spin on it by placing a person of color in the heroic role.

I don't see too many people complaining about the paintings of Napoleon or Queen Victoria or European colonization and how people of color were once represented in those paintings. These are the paintings Wiley references but then flips it on its head. If one doesn't like a painting due to its composition or its technical elements...that is subjective. But, to look at it and to fully understand the references and to be able to compare and contrast is an entirely different thing. Not too many people in here are doing the latter. Instead they are showing their own biases and privilege by claiming he is "racist" for making these paintings. Yet, where is the outrage for past paintings throughout art history that glorify colonization, slavery, and oppression?

I really do love that art, and painting in particular, still has the power to evoke and provoke emotions. In today's digital age and constant need to have instant 3 seconds of entertainment on a screen...I sometimes wonder if it does. But those who are "offended" by Wiley's paintings have proved otherwise. That's awesome.

The artist????? painted several portraits of Black women holding the cut off heads of White women. This offends me!!!

I saw a picture of several of our Presidents in classic poses. Obamas stood out like a joke. Before you call me a racist, I don't care. The painting is a joke. There is nothing wrong with tradition.

Obama’s Painter Has Long ‘Predatory,’ ‘Perverse’ History Of Sneaking Sperm Into Paintings


Ethan Barton
Investigative Reporter


02/13/2018




The artist who painted former President Barack Obama for the National Portrait Gallery in the Smithsonian has a history of including depictions of sperm in his work, and has been described as “predatory” and “perverse” by The Village Voice.

Kehinde Wiley is well-known for recreating famous paintings, but replacing the featured white person – often a noble or general – with a young black man. Wiley often met the men on the street, brought them into his studio, and had them pick a work to be painted into, the famously left-wing Village Voice reported in March 2015.

Wiley “lures young men into his studio with the promise of power and glamour,” writer and art critic Jessica Dawson wrote. She called the behavior “predatory” and “perverse.”
Dawson also points out the sexuality in several of his pieces and highlights that they often include sperm. Wiley’s rendition of “St. Andrew,” for example, shows a black man grinding “his crotch against a wooden cross” with “free-floating spermatozoa” painted on the canvas, Dawson wrote.

Kehinde Wiley’s Saint Andrew.


The canvas on Kehinde Wiley’s Saint Andrew. (Photo: Flickr/Tom Stohlman)
Wiley’s portrait of Obama was unveiled Monday morning.

The official portrait of former President Barack. (Kehinde Wiley)
The portrait includes a vein on the side of Obama’s head that has caused internet buzz.

Close-up of Obama’s vein in his official portrait. (Kehinde Wiley)
A high-resolution version of the whole painting can be found here.
That vein can also be seen in pictures of the former president, though appears less pronounced.

Obama’s profile showing his vein. (Shutterstock/Drop of Light)
“When I’m approaching these guys, there’s a presupposed engagement,” Wiley told Art Newspaper in 2008. “I don’t ask people what their sexualities are, but there’s a sense in which male beauty is being negotiated.”

But art blog Mrs. Sawyer’s Opus pointed out that, “in the majority of the critiques of his work, nowhere is it discussed the blatant sexual and homoerotic overtones of Wiley’s images.”

Wiley’s version of “Napoleon Leading the Army of the Alps” also features sperm, according to Dawson and Mrs. Sawyer’s Opus, among others. The painting includes “dozens of little sperm cells” across the canvas, the blog said, noting that the corners of the portrait’s frame contains “an egg-like orb with sperm cells crawling on them.”
And Dawson suggested that the painting be subtitled “(Through a Light Ejaculate Mist).”

Kehinde Wiley’s Napoleon Leading the Army of the Alps. (Photo: Flickr/Wally Gobetz)

A zoomed shot of Kehinde Wiley’s Napoleon Leading the Army of the Alps. (Photo: Flickr/Wally Gobetz)

Wiley did not return a request for comment.

Close-ups with-in the link:


http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/13/obamas...into-paintings/

But white, power hungry leaders depicted colonizing, oppressing and forcing people into slavery that have been painted throughout history doesn't offend you?

Yep, and they painted Jesus as a white man too. lol

I don't like the paintings due to there style either, but damn people they are just paintings. Sure they are kind of "Good Times" style but that is the Obama's choice.

Nice try fish...but I'm not going to strain my eyes looking for the hidden sperm in Obama's painting. It's probably like those old 3D pictures from the 90's...the ones you stared at until suddenly it appear. I hope he at least had the decency to leave it out of the former First Lady's portrait.

he's so dope. if you're gonna be subversive, you might as well push the envelope the entire way.

I'm not missing any point - good for him. I'm glad he found his niche. Many artists across many genres create a following by sheer shock value alone, doesn't make them good artists. Art is subjective, if someone doesn't like it do you tell them they're missing the point?

"Artwork looks like crap." My opinion. Actually looks like he ripped it out of Mad Magazine. I guess if Obama wanted to look like Alfred E Neuman's cousin, that's his business too.

I don't complain about things from the past... Colonization, slavery, oppression - they all existed. If you call an old portrait of such subjects "glorifying" them, what would you call a current portrait of someone holding a severed head? Would it be glorifying murder? I guess your choice of words would depend on the level that YOU were offended by such subject matter. People are showing bias and privilege by not taking the time to compare and contrast or not caring enough to do so? lmao C'mon man! It's not my job to research a certain piece of art to see if I really like it or not. On the surface, many people would consider it racist. I ask again... If it was a white woman holding the severed head of a black woman, would many not come away with the same impression?

I stand by my opinion, regardless of the artist's past or propensity to take snapshots from the past and "flip them on their head"...

Poor choice for a former president to choose a person many will consider to be a racist to paint his portrait.
Current president, current climate of racial divide, current artist. Not a painting from 100 years ago "glorifying" what was actually going on.

I would think if one wanted to educate themselves it *would be* considered your job to do so. That way your opinion isn't based purely on subjective emotion. It's fairly easy in today's web world to do the research. You don't even have to go to the library and pick up a book.

But, if you don't want to understand the background of why it was painted that too is your opinion.

I don't think people call you a racist because you don't like a painting.

I think it stems from the fact that you gleefully cheerlead for a racist.

Chrysanthemums, official flower of Chicago, jasmine from Obama’s birth state of Hawaii, and blue lilies representing his African heritage.


Meanwhile....."Barack and Michelle Obama have nigh blown the roof off the Smithsonian’s National Portrait Gallery in Washington.

Traffic at the museum soared over President’s Day weekend to more than 50,000, the museum tells me. That’s thrice last year’s traffic over the same weekend. Lines stretched into the street."







https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/the-critic...a-huge-success/

Woo hoo! Art is not dead! Painting is alive and well in the 21st century. Thanks for proving my point, 40!

Life is too short to continuously ramble in circles with folks in this section of the board.

People are naturally attracted to viewing ODDITIES.

Barack his sis fingers, scepter....

That explains your unbridled infatuation with Trump.

Obama brought the freak show to town.. it never left. It just changed headliners.

Wow. Nice contribution bro.

Oh don't even try to pretend that any of your posts, or anyone else's around here for that matter, has any redeemable intellectual value.

Stones in glass houses my friend, stones in glass houses...

OK, everybody needs to get over B&M Obama's Portraits.

Dawg, I was over them the day they dropped.

#notafanofeither

When you get over Trump we will.

I only look at it when I need a laugh.

Because Obama being one with the shrubbery.

When you get over Trump we will. [/quote

Seven more long years for the lefties!