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Originally Posted By: teedub
I love how any suggestion gets blow up as unworkable because of one example like food allergies. Nothing will ever work if the basis is it has to work for 100% of the people 100% of the time.
Yes because in 2018 they couldn't have a system where you list your allergies and they provide other foods.......

I also dont remember the left having a problem when Mrs. Obama wanted to provide the school kids with healthy food.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
the logistics alone would make this more expensive than the current system.

Trump and their supporters once again don't care about cost, as long as it shafts the poor people.
ahhh so supplying poor poeple with healthy food options is shafting them now? Was it shafting them when Mrs Obama wanted to provide children health lunches? I bet you loved that idea no?

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amazon also does it for about 12 bucks a month right now w/ prime, so i think they can work something out logistically. Do you have any figures showing it will be more expensive? Or is this your "expert opinion"

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amazon also does it for about 12 bucks a month right now w/ prime, so i think they can work something out logistically. Do you have any figures showing it will be more expensive? Or is this your "expert opinion"


The guy who melted down when it was pointed out to him that Trumpnis racist wants the cold hard facts.

(The facts and figures don't back your case)

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It would be more expensive because the federal government then is in the game of distributing food to everyone on SNAP. Whereas right now, we let Kroger/Buehlers/etc handle the distribution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/us/ha...;pgtype=article

The primary reason I'm against this type of program is you single-source the provider stream. Walmart/Kroger/Buehlers are out, Blue Apron is in. They could be in a better position to hike prices which then gets passed to us as taxpayers, whereas SNAP payments to a grocery store are on products that have to be priced in the general marketplace.


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The proposal suggests that the State Govts be responsible for delivering all the food to all the recipients. LOL That won't work at all.


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
The proposal suggests that the State Govts be responsible for delivering all the food to all the recipients. LOL That won't work at all.


Why does it have to be delivered? Can't they get food the same way they do now?

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The proposal suggests that the State Govts be responsible for delivering all the food to all the recipients. LOL That won't work at all.


Why does it have to be delivered? Can't they get food the same way they do now?


It's in Twitter Trumps proposal that the State govts be responsible for the delivery. Ask him.


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Originally Posted By: gage
It would be more expensive because the federal government then is in the game of distributing food to everyone on SNAP. Whereas right now, we let Kroger/Buehlers/etc handle the distribution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/us/ha...;pgtype=article

The primary reason I'm against this type of program is you single-source the provider stream. Walmart/Kroger/Buehlers are out, Blue Apron is in. They could be in a better position to hike prices which then gets passed to us as taxpayers, whereas SNAP payments to a grocery store are on products that have to be priced in the general marketplace.


I would have thought a single source provider was ideal in a world where we want single payer healthcare. Why can't the feds negotiate cheap food prices for the program...you all say they will do it with single pay health care.

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Originally Posted By: gage
It would be more expensive because the federal government then is in the game of distributing food to everyone on SNAP. Whereas right now, we let Kroger/Buehlers/etc handle the distribution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/us/ha...;pgtype=article

The primary reason I'm against this type of program is you single-source the provider stream. Walmart/Kroger/Buehlers are out, Blue Apron is in. They could be in a better position to hike prices which then gets passed to us as taxpayers, whereas SNAP payments to a grocery store are on products that have to be priced in the general marketplace.


I would have thought a single source provider was ideal in a world where we want single payer healthcare. Why can't the feds negotiate cheap food prices for the program...you all say they will do it with single pay health care.
I dont really have a problem with this idea, on principle. But really it is a simpleton idea, from a simple mind. The government does not have the infrastructure to distibute this amount of food. It would be extremely expesive to build it . You would be talking about many billions of dollars in warehousing, transport, distibution, and administration .


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Originally Posted By: teedub
I would have thought a single source provider was ideal in a world where we want single payer healthcare. Why can't the feds negotiate cheap food prices for the program...you all say they will do it with single pay health care.


The feds wouldn't have to negotiate for single payer healthcare link .

The single biggest problem w/ this program is you are taking money away from grocery stores and putting it into this food box program. That's why it's DOA.


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Originally Posted By: gage
It would be more expensive because the federal government then is in the game of distributing food to everyone on SNAP. Whereas right now, we let Kroger/Buehlers/etc handle the distribution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/13/us/ha...;pgtype=article

The primary reason I'm against this type of program is you single-source the provider stream. Walmart/Kroger/Buehlers are out, Blue Apron is in. They could be in a better position to hike prices which then gets passed to us as taxpayers, whereas SNAP payments to a grocery store are on products that have to be priced in the general marketplace.


I would have thought a single source provider was ideal in a world where we want single payer healthcare. Why can't the feds negotiate cheap food prices for the program...you all say they will do it with single pay health care.


Well if the government ensured everyone could go to their doctor offices via an Uber, healthcare costs would go up.

Personally, I'm torn on it. On one hand it would be a great way to initiate healthier food standards. On the other hand I'm all for free enterprise and the ability to choose our own paths including what you want to for dinner. I also think it'd just be a way for the government to further subsides large corporations on the tax payers' dime.

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it'd just be a way for the government to further subsides large corporations on the tax payers' dime.


And it puts the real pressure on the state and local governments that will cause them to hike their taxes even more than they already plan.


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Originally Posted By: willitevachange
amazon also does it for about 12 bucks a month right now w/ prime, so i think they can work something out logistically. Do you have any figures showing it will be more expensive? Or is this your "expert opinion"


The guy who melted down when it was pointed out to him that Trumpnis racist wants the cold hard facts.

(The facts and figures don't back your case)
So again, you have no facts, no data...once again, you lose.

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I remember most of the ones on the board here, were all for Michelle and her healthy lunches, yet against getting healthy options for the poor.

Why do you all hate the poor so much? Its time we start caring for their well being - and providing them what they NEED, and not what you WANt.

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