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tab, that was brought up by device, who was trying to hijack yet another thread. It's best to ignore him.

Funny, considering the source.

I think people deserve the truth.

I'm the same. But I know he likes to get his licks in on me so I have to defend myself against the defamation of character.


I don't know what's going on in the video to make the call on what it is. All we know is what we are told and the video evidence.

But the disrespecting of a ref...

and then all the Baker haters saying his crotch grabbing was despicable but ignore Landry's crotch grabbing is a bit hypocritical regardless of the position they play.

j/c:

Bucs release RB Doug Martin

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/2018/...ck-doug-martin/

I like Landry the player, I don't like that video. I think there's enough gray area in that video to proceed with caution and do a lot of homework on the guy vs just an outright 'no'. We definitely need a Landry-type slot receiver on the team.

I also like Pryor. In a way, I like him more now than I did the offseason when he left. His salary and playing time expectations should have been deflated down to reasonable levels after last season. Plus, Hue seems to know how to get what he needs out of him. Pryor should not be our bigtime WR signing, but if he bumps Louis or Higgins off the 53, then by all means sign me up!

j/c

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/965995120507179008

Adam Schefter‏Verified account @AdamSchefter

Texans officially released Lb Brian Cushing today, per source.

12:02 PM - 20 Feb 2018

martin's been injured quite a bit IIRC

Yep. He's missed a lot of games. He also averaged 2.9 YPC over the last two years.

I feel bad for the kid. In the two seasons he's actually stayed healthy, he's rushed for 1,400 yards each year.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22514058/chicago-bears-release-jerrell-freeman-two-seasons

jerrell freeman released

Never cared much for Cushing he had a lot of tackles but mostly downfield ... JMHO

Agreed. I don't really think that video concludes anything. Proceed with caution though.

I would like Pryor back too. One thing I've learned is you can't count on Josh Gordon. And you can't count on Corey Coleman. Easily those guys could be missing next season.



Pryor and Landry would be a big upgrade no matter what. Maybe draft a rookie too, but a vet with good character (and plenty to still prove (No Dwayne Bowe/Kenny Britt) would be a great option. Let that vet battle it out with Kason Williams and Ricardo Louis/later round.pick or UDFA.

This year's WR class isn't that deep IMO.

But I certainly don't want to go into this season counting on Corey Coleman or Josh Gordon. They've shown that they aren't guys you can count on, especially Gordon. I love Gordon, but as far as I'm concerned, don't plan on him. He's like the gummy bears you add to your sundae. Not essential but a pleasant surprise that makes it much better.

Cleveland Browns: Let’s Take a Pass on Terrelle Pryor
by Christopher Markoch5 hours ago

Terrelle Pryor is allegedly eyeing a 2018 return to the Cleveland Browns and it sounds like the feeling is mutual. However when it comes to the quarterback turned receiver, this is one reunion the Browns should avoid.

The rumor mill is in full swing. One name that is coming up among possible free agent additions for the Cleveland Browns is former wide receiver, Terrelle Pryor. Browns fans love a good reunion story, but this is no time to turn back the clock.

One argument for adding Pryor is that he had the best year of his short career with the Browns in 2016, catching 77 passes for 1,007 yards. Pryor was unquestionably the number one option for a young Browns receiving core, and was 12th in total targets among all receivers.

However, it’s fair to say that 2016 may represent the ceiling for Pryor. In a return engagement, Pryor would be, at best, the number two option behind Josh Gordon. That’s not considering who the Browns may add in free agency, or what new offensive coordinator Todd Haley can do with Corey Coleman. With the Steelers, Haley had a lot of mouths to feed. But year after year, when it came to receptions by receivers, it was Antonio Brown and everyone else.

In fairness, Pryor was thrust into the primary receiver role in 2016. If you recall, Gordon was suspended prior to the season and Coleman missed about half the season with a broken hand. It’s possible that Gordon, Coleman and Pryor could coexist. A luxury of receiving options would be a nice problem to have.

But there are reasons to believe that Pryor may have difficulties having less than a starring role in the offense. Two articles that appeared late in 2016 raise questions about Pryor’s influence on a young team. Wide receivers are notoriously referred to as divas and Pryor is no different. However, the Cleveland Browns are trying to build a new culture and these comments from Hue Jackson about some of Pryor’s on-the-field antics are cause for concern.

“I just think it’s unfortunate that those things have happened,” Jackson said. “I don’t think that they have any place in the National Football League, especially on our team, so we’re going to try and get all those things to quiet down. We just want to play football, be the best football players we can be and let’s get away from all of that.” — Jackson said via Scott Petrak of the Chronicle-Telegram

And those comments were followed by this critique from former teammate Brian Hartline.

“Is he my No. 1? God, I hope not because let’s put it this way: For me, I want a guy day in and day out I know what I’m getting. You don’t know what you’re going to get. You don’t know who’s going to show up. You don’t know if he’s going to get in trouble. You don’t know if he’s going to smart off. I need stability. That’s so more important to me. I need a guy that runs routes. I need stability. I need constant production.” — Hartline said via Michael David Smith of Pro Football Talk

Are either of these comments death blows to bringing Pryor back? Maybe not. But there’s a reason Pryor was unable to get the deal he was looking for prior to the 2017 season.

What will be more telling is how many suitors seek his services for 2018. As for the Browns, there are other free agent options. This is one pass best left incomplete.

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Pass on Martin. Obvious reason is always being hurt.

Landry is also not afraid in the least to go across the middle and catch the ball in traffic ..

Landry also rocks on underneath crossing patterns ...

If we land him ...

What makes anyone on here think that Josh Gordon will even be around next season? He's been on a rookie contract since being drafted by Tom Heckert. Just think about that. And essentially, we have him next season AND we can tender a RFA tag on him the season after.

I love having Josh Gordon around, but you can't rely on him. He can really only be thought of as a number 5 receiver. Taking the spot of a replaceable receiver.


And Corey Coleman has missed how much time in his first two seasons? He's probably missed as much, if not more time, than he's played. And at that, he's gotten nowhere near 1000 yards.


Say what you want about Pryor, he was productive.



And these opinions of Pryor from Hartline (and I think some came from Alex Boone). When did those guys play with him? Are they talking about Ohio State Days? I mean, how many years did Hartline even play with Pryor? How old was Pryor when he played with Hartline? Same with Boone?

Cause we signed Brian Hartline, and I can tell you, he wasn't worth half of what Pryor was two seasons ago.



Yeah, this article is bunk if you ask me. I just read the article on it, posted on google by typing in the quote. Totally taken out of context.



He doesn't mention that this was referring to some tweet that Pryor said about Janoris Jenkins of the Giants.........

Here's an additional quote right after that one


I mean, this is a non issue.



This reporter clearly has an agenda.

Not re-signing Terrelle Pryor was Sashi Brown winning the contract negotiation and not getting the guy. We would have been better last year with Pryor. There's no question about it. Instead we signed Britt. Another worthless WR.

Pryor plays with fire and has shown success here. He's done well with Hue Jackson. He likes it here. Sometimes some places aren't a fit. Washington wasn't a fit. Cleveland was a fit.

I sure hope Hue lobbies for Pryor

SI predicts Sam Bradford to sign with Browns

The Browns would have two No. 1 overall selections on their roster.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Bolt/Sam-Bradford-predicted-to-sign-with-Browns-115333683

Less than a month remains until the most interesting free agency period in years.

Several starting caliber quarterbacks are set to change teams. Sports Illustrated's Peter King took a shot at predicting where each of the coveted signal callers will land this season. For starters, USC quarterback Sam Darnold and veteran Sam Bradford land with the Cleveland Browns.

"The reason Browns GM John Dorsey wanted Alex Smith, or even McCarron or another veteran, is because he wants to be competitive from the start this season. You sign Bradford because you know as long as he stays healthy (Ten days? Ten games?), he’s a top-12-caliber quarterback. But he’s played more than seven games in just two of the last five seasons, and so the Browns won’t be guaranteed anything except some sleepless nights if they sign Bradford. But no matter which veteran Cleveland gets (and McCarron is certainly a strong prospect here), Dorsey will backstop with a rookie, and Darnold, who needs a large dose of development, would be fine with a year or more of clipboard-holding," King said.

Few would understand what Darnold would be going through as a rookie more than Bradford, the No. 1 overall selection in the 2010 NFL Draft.

Bradford, 30, has spent the past two seasons with the Minnesota Vikings after stints with the St. Louis Rams and Philadelphia Eagles. He played in just two games this season due to injury. Over the past two seasons, he has completed 427-of-595 passes for 4,259 yards, 23 touchdowns and nine interceptions.

King also projects that Kirk Cousins will sign with Denver while AJ McCarron will sign with Arizona.

Browns Star Joe Thomas Takes to Twitter to Recruit Both Drew Brees and Kirk Cousins

Sam Bradford would be a joke signing. You can't count on him to make it out of practice let alone a few games. Rather have Kizer as a bridge QB.

Cal, thanks for the article and this is no slam on you........but man, that is a really stupid article. I really don't care if we sign Pryor or not. I think he might be a decent second signing after a guy like Landry or Robinson, but there are other guys out there that can help this putrid WR group.

I just think the article is very slanted and not a good representation of the situation.

Yes tab, I advocated drafting Martin at the top of the second instead of taking TRich in the first few picks.

He had some good years, but injuries have really derailed him.

I think Bradford might be a decent option. The injury thing is the big concern, but he isn't as bad as some people claim.


A qb room of Rosen, Bradford, and Kizer is much better than we've had in a long, long time.

I do agree it needs to be a bridge QB to whoever who unless we sign Cousins.


Bradford fits the mold.

When healthy, Bradford is pretty good.

Jarvis Landry franchised. Scratch him...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000916892/article/dolphins-place-franchise-tag-on-jarvis-landry

What a freaking bummer!!!!!!!!

Not surprising though. Same will probably happen to Allen Robinson.

Paul Richardson?

Yeah, I have always suspected Jax to slap that tag on Robinson.

Freaking sucks.

Terrell Pryor sounds better day by day

I'd take him over Pryor.

...damn

I'm kind of weary of Paul Richardson, guy was looking like huge bust until this year...A lot of injuries with him, however he is still super young and there isn't a whole lot there (starting caliber wise)

This is good news.

Thanks for your take on WRs. I've been guilty of separating the Slot and Outside WRs. Your explanation makes a ton of sense.

Damn it, Miami.

I'm way out of touch with the latest CBA. But with a Non Exclusive Tag, Landry can negotiate with other teams and Miami can match if desired.

But, if they choose not to match or decided to in fact Trade him, it doesn't HAVE to be Two 1sts. Couldn't they agree to take say 33 or 35 for him?