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league source told PFT's Mike Florio that the Dolphins quickly franchise-tagging Jarvis Landry is "being interpreted as a desire" by Miami to trade Landry.
The Dolphins slapped the tag on Landry on the first day teams were allowed to do so on Tuesday, which is pretty quick. Typically, tags come closer to the early-March deadline each year after both sides have exhausted all avenues in extension talks, buying the sides until July to hammer out a long-term deal. That very well could be the case here, as well, but the way the Dolphins have spoken of Landry the past year-plus makes this report believable. Prior to Tuesday, Miami's front office had been lukewarm at best when talking about Landry's Dolphins future. A trade would be complicated, as Landry would likely have to agree to a new long-term deal with the acquiring team, while the Dolphins would also want significant compensation. Landry being in Miami for 2018 doesn't appear to be a lock at this point.
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yeah, seems to me they want to get something for Landry
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I think my days for veteran WRs are close to being over with. If they want to trade him, then I'm not even sure I care to hear what they want, or what Landry wants in a new contract.
We've been through the give up a lot for a WR and haven't gotten anything but mocked and laughed at in the end.
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Rosen or other QBs of choice from the draft is the key.
We would want Bradford to start and start with success and winning ways but the INJURY concern does not bother me one bit. Cause that would be the start of our draft Franchise QBs ERA...3 games 10 games it won't matter. If Bradford gets injured the Franchise QB much more the wiser than starting game one...will jump in and start his era as our Franchise QB. I don't see why any dawgs would be worried. We make the right decision on QB actually Bradford is almost the perfect BRIDGE QB! It saves the HC and OC from the difficult decision of WHEN TO START that Franchise QB's career.
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league source told PFT's Mike Florio that the Dolphins quickly franchise-tagging Jarvis Landry is "being interpreted as a desire" by Miami to trade Landry.
The Dolphins slapped the tag on Landry on the first day teams were allowed to do so on Tuesday, which is pretty quick. Typically, tags come closer to the early-March deadline each year after both sides have exhausted all avenues in extension talks, buying the sides until July to hammer out a long-term deal. That very well could be the case here, as well, but the way the Dolphins have spoken of Landry the past year-plus makes this report believable. Prior to Tuesday, Miami's front office had been lukewarm at best when talking about Landry's Dolphins future. A trade would be complicated, as Landry would likely have to agree to a new long-term deal with the acquiring team, while the Dolphins would also want significant compensation. Landry being in Miami for 2018 doesn't appear to be a lock at this point.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC SportsFeb 20 - 10:08 PM If they don't want him and tagged him solely for the compensation, I'd love to see the other teams stay away and force them to eat his salary. I think it's BS when a team wants to subvert the intention of the tags & FA simply out of greed. More than likely though someone ponies up picks because he's a shiny new toy, but it's not fair to the players and basically screws them out of the opportunities they worked for.
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What would a team have to give up to get a tagged Jarvis Landry in a trade (assuming you are also able to sign him to an extension)?
I would give up a third round pick without blinking and could probably be talked into giving up our third second round pick.
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Depends on what they negotiate, right? Maybe they want a first, or a second, maybe a second and a fifth, who knows? Whatever the price, what it definitely does is limit where he will go.
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Anything is possible, but I doubt a third would do the trick. Let's say it does do the trick, what sort of contract/extension/discussed agreement with him would entail? I'm sure he'll be aiming for the stars and expecting as much.
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If they don't want him and tagged him solely for the compensation, I'd love to see the other teams stay away and force them to eat his salary. I think it's BS when a team wants to subvert the intention of the tags & FA simply out of greed. More than likely though someone ponies up picks because he's a shiny new toy, but it's not fair to the players and basically screws them out of the opportunities they worked for. Yeah, it's legal but it is also dirty and classless.
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He just needs to rush and sign it so they can't pull it. They lose a lot of bargaining power when that happens because they really can't afford him.
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Would the Browns consider bringing Taylor Gabriel back to town? https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/02/19/cleveland-browns-gabriel-home/The Cleveland Browns could use help at wide receiver. If he hits free agency, would the team look to bring Taylor Gabriel “home” to Cleveland? The Cleveland Browns are expected to add at least one, if not two, wide receivers during the offseason. That search could lead the team to bring home one of its former players in Taylor Gabriel. The Browns originally signed Gabriel as an undrafted free agent out of Abilene Christian in 2014. In two seasons in Cleveland, Gabriel caught 64 passes for 862 yards and a touchdown, while appearing in 29 games and making six starts. Nice numbers, certainly, but the type of production that should have resulted in the outcry from certain corners of Browns Nation when the club released Taylor prior to the 2016 regular season. Gabriel ended up following offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to the Atlanta Falcons, where he had a nice first season with the eventual NFC Champions. On the way to the Super Bowl, Gabriel had 35 receptions for 579 yards and six touchdowns (plus a rushing touchdown). His production fell off this past season however, as he dealt with an offseason leg injury. Despite appearing in 16 games for the first time since his rookie season, Gabriel’s numbers fell across the board as he finished with 33 receptions for 378 yards and just one touchdown. Now, according to ESPN’s Vaughn McClure, the Falcons may be ready to move on from Gabriel, who is looking at the possibility of hitting the open market as a positive: “The last time I was cut, but this time I’m a free agent, so I don’t know if I have a choice to, I guess, pick a team now. I’m really not sure how it’s all going to work. But I will say that I’m just grateful I was able to play with the Falcons and grateful to go to a Super Bowl.” So would the Browns be open to bringing Gabriel back to town? The Browns are set with their top two wide receivers — at least if they pick up a little bit of luck. They just need Corey Coleman to be available for a full 16 games, something that has not happened so far as he has missed parts of his first two seasons with a broken hand; and for Josh Gordon to stay on the field for a full season, something has not done since entering the league in 2012. With Coleman and Gordon lining up on the outside, Gabriel could be an enticing option for the slot receiver role. Gabriel is also more productive than Terrelle Pryor, another former Browns wide receiver that people will link to the team in free agency. So the Browns would likely be interesting in Gabriel. But would he be interested in them? Gabriel’s best season came with Shanahan calling the plays in Atlanta in 2016. Shanahan is now with the San Francisco 49ers and is in need of playmakers for recently signed quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo, so a reunion on the West Coast would seem more likely than one on the North Coast if Gabriel does hit the free agent market. The Browns can counter Shanahan with offensive coordinator Todd Haley, however, who showed in Pittsburgh that he knows how to build an effective passing game. It may be a bit of a long shot, but if Gabriel does become a free agent, general manager John Dorsey could do a lot worse than to give Gabriel a call.
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It was dumb to cut Taylor Gabriel in the first place. I would love to have him back.
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I’m surprised there’s no mention of any defensive players from free agency on here, can’t the “D” get some attention? Lol
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More than happy to bring Taylor back.
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I’m surprised there’s no mention of any defensive players from free agency on here, can’t the “D” get some attention? Lol All the good ones will probably be tagged. 
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The honey badger is rumored to be on the trading block and would be a good fit.
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I would t mind seeing us sign a corner and safety, at least as depth if not a starter type of player. Could also see depth on the Dline being added. And at linebacker. Probably no starters there but depth.
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Deep draft at D-line, IMO, & CB & WR. I wouldn't mind signing a back up FS and a vet WR, but I think WR will be thin in FA. Also, I think we'll see added value from Larry O & Brantley this year. If we weren't so desperate at CB/WR/FS I'd be praying hard for a complimentary DE.
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What would a team have to give up to get a tagged Jarvis Landry in a trade (assuming you are also able to sign him to an extension)?
I would give up a third round pick without blinking and could probably be talked into giving up our third second round pick. I'd absolutely give up the third second for him and begin working on a long-term deal. He's young, a proven talent and can move the chains. We have plenty of cap space to work out a suitable long-term deal. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out and where he ends up.
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I’m surprised there’s no mention of any defensive players from free agency on here, can’t the “D” get some attention? Lol All the good ones will probably be tagged. Trumaine will be a Brown. Mark it down. And I'd bet anything that Thomas plays ONE more year.
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What would a team have to give up to get a tagged Jarvis Landry in a trade (assuming you are also able to sign him to an extension)?
I would give up a third round pick without blinking and could probably be talked into giving up our third second round pick. Lol. This a 400 Catch in 4 Years WR. This dude is a STUD wherever you line him up. #1 or #4? No way in hell. But 33 or 35? ALL DAY.
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What would a team have to give up to get a tagged Jarvis Landry in a trade (assuming you are also able to sign him to an extension)?
I would give up a third round pick without blinking and could probably be talked into giving up our third second round pick. Lol. This a 400 Catch in 4 Years WR. This dude is a STUD wherever you line him up. #1 or #4? No way in hell. But 33 or 35? ALL DAY. He also doesn't have a contract.
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What would a team have to give up to get a tagged Jarvis Landry in a trade (assuming you are also able to sign him to an extension)?
I would give up a third round pick without blinking and could probably be talked into giving up our third second round pick. Lol. This a 400 Catch in 4 Years WR. This dude is a STUD wherever you line him up. #1 or #4? No way in hell. But 33 or 35? ALL DAY. He also doesn't have a contract. No kidding. It comes with the trade. You sign this Kat long term. To his Market Value.
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The honey badger is rumored to be on the trading block and would be a good fit. I'd love that, but at the same time, I just want Minkah Fitzpatrick. Reading about his leadership and work ethic is mind blowing. The kid has everything. He's a legitimately elite prospect with the versatility that Williams covets and the skill set to succeed across multiple roles. Mathieu is amazing, but the cost and injuries are a concern. His contract is about to balloon out as his $62M deal was back-ended, and he's missed a lot of time in his career. With that said, he's an incredible player who is the very definition of the versatility that Williams seeks. The kid is a lot of fun to watch. Good thing we didn't select him in the draft - Leon McFadden worked out so well! Thanks, Joe Banner! I wonder what Mathieu would cost. Could be part of a drop from #4 to #15. We've heard rumors that the Browns could be interested in dropping back. It would take more than just Mathieu to make that move, however, but who knows how much more Arizona would be willing to part with.
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The honey badger is rumored to be on the trading block and would be a good fit. I'd love that, but at the same time, I just want Minkah Fitzpatrick. Reading about his leadership and work ethic is mind blowing. The kid has everything. He's a legitimately elite prospect with the versatility that Williams covets and the skill set to succeed across multiple roles. Mathieu is amazing, but the cost and injuries are a concern. His contract is about to balloon out as his $62M deal was back-ended, and he's missed a lot of time in his career. With that said, he's an incredible player who is the very definition of the versatility that Williams seeks. The kid is a lot of fun to watch. Good thing we didn't select him in the draft - Leon McFadden worked out so well! Thanks, Joe Banner! I wonder what Mathieu would cost. Could be part of a drop from #4 to #15. We've heard rumors that the Browns could be interested in dropping back. It would take more than just Mathieu to make that move, however, but who knows how much more Arizona would be willing to part with. What makes you think Williams wants versatility? That's interesting? Would Trumaine help? Joyner? Boston? Minkah-Fitzpatrick? What in your mind would eliminate this Safety 30 yard deep BS??
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Well they are looking for a QB. What about Peterson and Mathieu to swap spots?
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Well they are looking for a QB. What about Peterson and Mathieu to swap spots? What spots? Where's Zona? 15? I'll take BOTH for 4 and 15 swap. TODAY
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Well they are looking for a QB. What about Peterson and Mathieu to swap spots? Doubt it. Maybe if we offered #1 but two elite players, both of whom are fan favourites, wouldn't be offered. I'm also wary that Patrick Peterson is about to turn 28. He's still on the top of his elite game, but that's a little older than I'd like. Using the draft pick value chart, #4 is worth 1,800 points while #15 is worth 1,050. #47 is worth 430. So #14, #47 and Mathieu would work for me. That's maybe too much value our way, but picks are always worth more when you're trading up for a QB and the other team knows it. We've certainly seen a lot of value when it comes to teams like LA and Philly moving up.
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Well they are looking for a QB. What about Peterson and Mathieu to swap spots? This is straight up ridiculous.
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What makes you think Williams wants versatility? That's interesting?
Would Trumaine help? Joyner? Boston? Minkah-Fitzpatrick?
What in your mind would eliminate this Safety 30 yard deep BS?? Williams talks about versatility all the time when it comes to his safeties. I'd say Williams was a large part of the Browns selecting Peppers, for that very reason. Joyner is weird. He was fantastic with Williams while playing a versatile role between FS, SS and NCB. However, he played more pure FS with the Rams this year past, and he was breathtaking. PFF graded him their #3 safety. So, while I'd love to have him, perhaps Williams would need to allow him to play a much more natural, pure FS role - but I don't know if Williams would go for it. From what we've heard, Williams will be more willing to play his safeties closer when he feels like he can play press man with his corners. He mentioned playing more zone and off-press this year than he has previously. He wasn't a big fan of our corners, it seems. Trumaine Johnson will likely be someone we target for that very reason (I honestly think the Browns will go after both Joyner and Johnson, assuming the Rams don't franchise either) and spend a draft selection there. Plus, the return of Howard Wilson could be interesting. McCourty and BBC are, in my mind, our only real locks at corner. It seems it all starts a corner, for Williams. If he gets corners he's confident with, he'll be a little more wild with his safeties. I wonder if the Browns will trade Derrick Kindred. He's awesome, but Peppers was lights out at the end of the year playing SS and Williams seems to LOVE Peppers. Off topic, but the value is currently there, so we might make a move. That could be one hell of a secondary. Peppers and Joyner + Johnson, BBC, McCourty, a rookie and Wilson all fighting it out at corner. That's expensive, but screw it, it ain't my money lol.
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I agree w/you about getting the two corners. That would be huge.
I disagree w/you on Peppers was "lights out" at the end of the season. I know you are going to throw a couple of stats at me, such as the sack where the qb fell down...LOL.......but Peppers was awful last year.
He better watch his ass because the new regime did not draft him.
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Well they are looking for a QB. What about Peterson and Mathieu to swap spots? This is straight up ridiculous. Don't burst my bubble. I'm a Browns fan and the offseason is my Superbowl.
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I really never joined in the Landry conversation a lot because as much as I like him as a player, I thought the competition for his services would drive the price much higher than I would be willing to pay. So since he's now pretty much off the market for anything close to reasonable compensation, I can pimp who I've wanted all along.
Danny Amendola.
I actually feel he will stay with the Patriots but I hope he hits the open market. He's always been a team player and has filled whatever role they've asked from him. He's actually taken pay cuts to stay with the Patriots before. He's just a quality WR with good route running and good hands. A combination of talent we have seemed to lack a lot when placing WR's on the field.
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I too don't think Danny will be available, but I would take him in a split second. With JD blowing off the Colts to stick around, his ties there and etc - I bet Pats sign him and he again takes again on the lower side contract.
Pats could choose not to resign though given they have depth at the slot.
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Doubt he and Olivia are leaving NE. He will resign with the Pats, bank on it.
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I would be OK with a killer speed WR who can help Coleman. The Trips we could put to there would be a matchup nightmare. I think the new OC could use him OK.
Price is acceptable, I hope. We can pay for some known commodities.
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I’m anxious to see if Haley can help Coleman make some sort of jump in production.
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