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Here's mine:

Free Agency, Sign:

CB Trumaine Johnson Rams
DL Tyrunn Walker Rams
QB Case Keenum Vikings
WR Paul Richardson Seahawks

Draft:

1. QB Sam Darnold
6: DB Minkah Fitzpatrick (trade with Jets, adding their 3rd round pick)
32: WR Courtland Sutton
34: RB Sony Michel
65: OL Kolton Miller
72: WR Equanimeous St. Brown

I suspect that we'll make some trades for future picks, or trades for veterans with some of our 4-7 round picks. I am not going to dig that far in, because I think that we'll have great impact with these top 6 picks.

We would strengthen our QBs, WRs, RBs, Secondary, OL, and add an interesting guy in Walker from the Rams.

What's your plan?

Darnold @ 1
Rosen @ 4

I like your plan for free agency but not the draft. I don't want to trade down from 4 and hope we can get Fitz. Take him at 4. We need to make sure we get as many impact players as possible without trading down. I'm all for trading up and trading picks for proven veterans that can play at a high level plus add leadership to the team. We are too young now. We need to add a few QUALITY picks in this draft plus some QUALITY vets.

I don't believe that we can have any "plans" that are set in stone. I have been thinking of starting a thread about " your acceptable options".

I've seen many posters say that they would take Darnold because of the concussion concerns about Rosen. So it appears that if Rosen passed all tests that addressed those concerns they would be happy with either one. Some would be happy with Cousins or Darnold/Rosen.

Far too often people can get set in stone about their opinions as to the perfect scenario. Yet many people can see a variety of options as viable plans. Since we don't actually know how the draft will unfold, projecting who would be selected at what picks anywhere beyond the top 10 in the draft is a moot point because we have no idea if they will be available at that pick.

Who we sign in the FA market can drastically change your needs in the draft so this too will influence the picks.

With all that being said, I don't have a specific plan. As it stands right now I prefer Rosen at #1 IF he can pass the all the concussion questions and is seen by our FO as the type of leader this team needs at the QB position. I would prefer Fitz at #4. Yet if they sign Cousins or draft Darnold I could see that as a viable plan moving forward.

The biggest red flag I see is Mayfield because of his actions on and off the field. Just too many incidents to call them as isolated incidents. I'm not saying he'll fail I just see it as an unnecessary risk given all of the talent at the position.

I agree with Glw. I like Ytown's general plan, but would rather use the late round picks as move up chips than moving down at all. I also prefer Johnson to Michel but in the same slot. And last, while Sutton is a good choice, I believe there will be a player who, by talent, should have gone in the early to mid 1st still on the board at #33. That is the one spot in the draft where I think we should not give a hoot about positional needs, take the BPA!

Miraculously schmooze Cousins enough to sign here. Sign some vet leadership.

Draft Chubb and Fitz, a RB and Receiver.

I'll now wish in one hand...

My plan:

1. Never indulge in crazy free agent spending that many ALWAYS want.
2. Give extensions to Duke Johnson and Danny Shelton.
3. Allocate future spending on players like Ogbah, Shobert,etc. Even BBC (lol) maybe?
4. Draft well. That includes picks and trades. (RIP Sashi)
5. Prioritize keeping "home-grown" players that are worth it.

This isn't hard.

I have two scenarios

Both we sign T. Johnson...

1. We pay up and sign Kirk Cousin/Brees. We take Minkah and Barkley with our picks.

2. We sign AJ, Keenum or some other non bank breaking vet QB. We take Darnold and Minkah. Darnold learns on the bench and doesn't sweat needing to play right away.

... Either scenarios are banking on both sides of the ball improving. Greg gets the back to hold up and his pressures become more dangerous. All signs seem to be pointing we'll have Gordon back. This opens up a lot and now an OC dedicated to the offense. Hopefully we can get a run game going. Even if we drop lower to grab a rb in the draft. Hue refused it, but it would help any QB we have back there.

You play to win the game!!!

I would start the FA period by going all in on Cousins. but under the assumption we can't land him:

Sign AJ or another bridge QB like Tyrod to a two year contract.

Resign or let Crow walk, depending on his desire is in FA and what he wants. but i'm also assuming he walks as well.

Sign CB Johnson from the Rams to a 4 year deal.

sign two depth LB's, veterans of course.

Cut Taylor, sign a veteran CB for depth and/or to compete with Wilson for a slot spot.

Hire Kevin Costner to protect Gordon during the offseason like he protected Whitney Houston in the Bodyguard.

with that going into the draft, assuming we have a bridge QB:

#1 Barkely
#4 Fitzpatrick
trade up in the teens to draft Lamar Jackson.

Assuming we have Cousins:

#1 barkley
#4 Fitz.
Trade up to the teens to grab the best WR on the board.

Free agency Aj McCarron
Trey Burton
Chris Ivory
Donte Moncrief
Vontae Davis
Kenny Vaccaro


Trade for Martavis Bryant

Draft 1..Saquan Barkley
4. Orlando Brown
32.Mike White

FA:
1. Trumaine Johnson - CB
2. Dontari Poe - DT
3. Albert Wilson - WR
4. Josh MCCown - QB

Draft:
1. Sam Darnold - QB
2. Minka Fitzpatrick - FS
3. Michael Hughes - CB
4. Kerryon Johnson - RB
5. D.J. Moore - WR
6. M. Rankins - OT

Plan A

Free Agency
QB Cousins
DE Clayborn
LB Bradham
CB Fuller/Johnson

Trade
WR Landry for our #64 pick plus a late pick

Draft
1(1) RB Barkley
1(4) FS Fitzpatrick
2(33) CB Hughes
2(35) DT Phillips
3(65) QB White

Plan B (if no Cousins)

Free Agency
QB McCarron or Keenum

Draft
1(1) QB Darnold
1(4) FS Fitzpatrick
2(33) CB Hughes
2(35) RB Johnson
3(65) BPA

FA-
Look at Joyner, Johnson, and Eric Reid, but don't overpay.
Try to convince McCown to return.

Draft-
Auction off 1-1 to the highest bidder between NYG, DEN, and NYJ (Unless someone else blows us away with a crazy offer)

Draft Fitzpatrick

Draft Marcus Davenport- watch him vs. Temple and Baylor. Reminds me of a trimmer, bendier JJ Watt. Wrecks plays all game. Needs to refine technique, but already a handful.

Draft a RB- RoJo, Kerryon, or Sony.

Draft a CB/DB- Alexander, Meeks, Reid, Toliver (Sutton another option if still available.)

Draft Anthony Miller, WR, Memphis.

BPA, with an eye on OTs.

You're right, it's not. Your point #1 is often virtually ignored, but it's vital to our long-term competitiveness. Well done, Memphis...

When do we ever overspend on free agents?

When?

Owners afraid of opening the pocketbook.

They let too many guys walk than pay them.

This team could totally take a lesson from Dan Gilbert.

j/c

I think my head would explode if we drafted any RB #1 overall in this draft. If we are somehow set at QB (meaning we don't need a QB #1 overall), that #1 pick will be worth way more than any RB in the history of the modern game.

Think about it...would you rather have a RB at #1 in a very deep RB class? OR likely some combo of four first and second Rd picks and a terrific RB at #33...or even #4?

If WE don't take a QB at #1 overall, we'd be nuts to not trade that pick to someone who WILL draft a QB #1 overall...and pay dearly to do so.

At this point...

FA:
QB Kirk Cousins, skins
CB Trumaine Johnson, rams
WR Dontrelle Inman, bears
LT, Nate Solder, pats (assuming Thomas retires)


Draft:

1. trade with Denver (#5, #71, 2019 1st rounder)
(Denver takes Rosen, NYG takes Darnold, IND takes Chubb)
4: Saquon Barkley, RB
5: Minkah Fitzpatrick, FS
33: Jaire Alexander, CB
35: Marcus Davenport, Edge
64: Michael Gallup, WR
65: Leighton Vander Esch, MLB
71 (from Den): Jamarco Jones, OT

Ask me after free agency , it's too complicated at the moment.

Sign a vet QB, draft Rosen .
Get secondary help in free agency.
nail the draft. Minkah or Barkley, take one at least ,

S

Retire before forty.

j/c:

This isn't hard, but he last guy's plan resulted in 1 and 31 and all of our plans since our rebirth have resulted in 0 playoff wins and only one playoff appearance.

It's so freaking easy....

I agree Vers, we just have to fire that 1-31 Head Coach that keeps getting in the way of winning.

I like this scenario a lot, but I seriously doubt Davenport is available at 35.

I simply can't get past thinking about TRichardson...

For free agency I'd try and fill in the fringes of the team with reasonable contracts.

After earlier saying I would give the Mike Glennon contract to A.J. McCarron, I talked myself out of doing that in a different post. I'd sign a veteran QB that would come cheaper. Someone like Sam Bradford makes a lot of sense, but I think I would probably end up with someone like Chase Daniel, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Josh McCown, or Mark Sanchez.

I think it is obvious that the secondary needs help. I think Trumaine Johnson could be a good option, especially because he has gotten paid over the last couple years (over $30 million the last two seasons). He might come more cheaply because of that. If he is too expensive I wouldn't sign him, I don't know how good he is. Paying players more than they are worth gets teams in a lot of trouble (hello Kenny Britt!). The team already met with Vontae Davis, that seems like a pretty good option.

The main thing I'd be trying to do this off-season is trade for young players who are still on their rookie deals (for example: Marcus Peters). I view the trade market as an inefficiency. There are no other avenues to acquire young, proven, cheap players other than by trade.

As far as the draft, I'd take Josh Rosen with the first pick and then trade down if I could with the fourth pick (with the goal of acquiring a 2019 first round pick).

As of right now, I'm doing 2 things in FA.

Finding that Vet QB
Giving Williams what he needs to tighten up the Defense.

It's going to cost about 70M in Cap Space. Guessing.

1) Extend Duke Johnson NOW.
2) Sign Bradford, Daniels, McCown or Moore to a 2 year deal.
3) Ink Trumaine Johnson CB
4) Ink Joyner, Boston or Reid FS
5) ink Robinson or Wilson WR
6) Ink Pryor WR Mid Tier Signing
7) Ink a VET LB Mid Tier Signing

Draft.

1) Sam Darnold QB (NOT 4 Sale)
4) Minkah-Fitzpatrick CB (NOT 4 Sale)
33) Guice RB if there (1st Round Talent)
35) Defensive Tackle (1st Round Rated on OUR Board)
64) BPA Regardless of Position
65) BPA Regardless of Position

Sign as many good free agents as we can. Concentrating on DB's and receivers.

If we can't get Cousins, I go

1. Bradley Chubb
4. Whoever is left between Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield.
In the 2nd, the best back on the board

The plan?

Well this is a 1 win 31 loss team.... It's obvious that we need a total rebuild... Got to tear it down to the studs and let Dorsey start fresh... It's the only thing to do...

... . We've already got a solid foundation in place. It simply needs to be finished off, not torn down.

It's all opinion, but I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

We've already torn it down, thus there is no need to do so again. I also really don't see a great foundation. Many of the starters will be upgraded.

The good news is that we have a lot of cap space and draft picks to help build that foundation and perhaps even build a very strong team.

It is imperative that we hit on these draft choices and spend wisely. We can't have more Kenny Britt's or Dwayne Bowe or draft guys like TRich, Weeden, Mingo, Coleman, Peppers, etc.

We have a lot of work to do and I hope we finally have the right guys in place to accomplish the task. I don't think it is easy, but there is some hope.

I'm sorry, this makes no sense to me. We have assembled an all-star talent evaluation team. Their primary job is to fix the team. Looking at what they have to fix, QB is one of the, if not the, biggest weakness. They are in a position to take the measure of the entire QB class, decide which one is the best fit for this team, and to take that player before any other team has the chance to take him. Meanwhile, one of the strongest positions on this team is DE.

What you are suggesting is that we take the most valuable asset we have, invest it into what is already one of our strongest position groups, while at the same time forfeiting the advantage we have at strengthening our weakest position and let fate decide which QB we end up with?

NO. Take this rare opportunity to take the best of a strong QB class, trusting the evaluation team you have assembled to make the right choice. Don't let other teams decide whether the guy you like the most is still there at #4. If you really want Chubb, you gamble that he's still there at #4. But I would rather invest that asset into one of the equally talented players at another position of need, RB or DB.

Maybe so.

I think the 3 QBs are about the same. The combine and private workouts might change that.

I have Chubb as the 2nd highest ranked player behind Barkley.

Elite edge rushers are rare. Good backs are not. Matching Chubb with Garrett and Ogbah would give us a dynamic rotation to throw at teams. Those guys can become game plan wreckers.

trade/sign Jarvis Landry
sign Trumaine Johnson
draft the QB who we deem the best (I'd go with Darnold)
draft Fitzpatrick



thats a good start

Solving the QB problem, getting play makers, getting veteran leaders. Those are the biggest needs for the Browns.
The Browns need to start winning as soon as possible. We need to get rid of this losing cloud that has been over the team for years. It has had an effect on every player and coach that has come to the Browns. We cannot go through another rebuild. We need to add pieces that can help us win now. That is why I want a good veteran QB brought in. That is why I was glad we kept Hue. I do not think Hue has done a good job but to replace him would mean new coaches and another rebuild. I am anxious to see what Hue and his staff can do when we get some better talent and leadership amongest the players.

My plan:

As I have said before, the defense is not great but it is serviceable.The offense on the other hand was putrid. So my number one priority is improving the offense.

1, first and foremost we need to fix the Qb position
Sign a smart solid veteran in free agency
Use the #1 overall pick

2, Draft a Rb
I want a guy who can be a power workhorse back

3, Wr - we need at least one if not 2
Draft a Wr
Sign a vet in FA who is a smart hard worker - he doesn't need to be great just solid and good enough to get significant playing time but just as important an example to the young guys

4, O-line - I think that we are pretty solid but we need a replacement for JT

5, The defense
I think we need a true FS and a Cb
Hopefully at least one in free agency

As for the draft, I only take defense if they are clearly the best player available - regardless of position
I think that our d-line is is good when healthy but you can never have enough pass rushers
We can use an upgrade at Lb as well. I know Schobert made the pro bowl but man is he uninspiring.
All are uninspiring except perhaps Collins. Kirksey was okay

Bowe & Britt, the epidamy of "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." It's no wonder fans (and possibly the FO) are gun shy in FA.

That's not how the saying goes. Ask W.

They need to leave the front 7 alone, and let them develop and keep their roles.

That could be said for the offensive line also.

I really think they had some talent at Wr last year, (save that one Hue brought in mid year and gave all that playing time, I forget his name, I'd like to forget he was even here.)
And if they could bring everybody back, which they already aren't,
because Britt, and articles about Coleman,

If they could just bring everybody back, and let them continue to grow together, and get better coaching/gameplanning,
plus add a couple, 2-3, maybe 4 or 5 (they do have extra early round picks this year)
pieces to the puzzle and they might actually have something competitive going forward.

The problem is if they keep doing the wrong things they're going to continue being in last place start to finish.

The Rb position has Got to have an investment this year, and a real threat to start too, not some 7th round token addressing.

The last 4 times the Browns were in the playoffs, the Rb's were better than what the Browns have had at Rb for most of the last several years.

I'm really against drafting Minkah Fitzpatrick and passing on your choice of the best RB at the #4 position,

Hey if the Browns are going to be 0 for 30 I might as well stop following what other people tell me to think and give my own opinions, because in the past I'd be watching and see something and feel like, "I knew I was right."