I spit straight facts and all you can do is go “can’t be taken seriously”
We know why cops don’t take facts seriously.
Nope, I never throw out the "typical angry black man" card.
I do take notice that you are still deflecting. And yes, you are deflecting because you still haven't stated just how the stuff you brought up is in any way, shape or form relevant to what I brought up.
You still haven't explained what me be a cop has to do with it either.
Look, if you're stalling because you are trying to learn more about it, that's cool. Don't be embarrassed. Just say hey, let me get back to you.
And if you don't want to have a discussion about it, simply say so. It's not whatever your thoughts on the subject that makes you not to be taken seriously, it's the behavior surrounding it.
"Hey, I'm a reasonable guy. But I've just experienced some very unreasonable things." -Jack Burton
-It looks like the Harvard Boys know what they are doing after all.
HRC is a horrible person, a bad politician and is certainly racist. I knew that long before your post this morning. I did not vote for her. Sanger, like most Americans of the time, was strongly into eugenics. That's despicable, horrible and disgraceful. She is not a hero of mine. However, she happened to make a lot of great points about women's rights, contraception, among other things. But nothing one couldn't get from reading her mentor Emma Goldman. Much in the same way that Thomas Jefferson was a great philosopher, but one could read Paine or Locke and learn just as much.
What? You’re arguing from a number without realizing that damn near half the country didn’t even bother showing up.
That’s completely throws a wrench into what could be considered as “overwhelming”, regardless of how hard you try to ignore it.
For the people that DID vote, you further leave out stats trying to support your flawed ass opinion.
You mention that only 56% of whites voted for trump. It’s actually 58%.
What you continue to FAIL to mention is the fact that white people voted for trump 58% to Hillary’s 37%
That’s an Important stat that you either ignored, or didn’t post because you know it would screw up your argument.
Further more, while blacks did vote for Hillary, she didn’t overwhelming win blacks like obama, or even bill, did when they ran. She had much lower turnout amongst minorities.
But for the minorities that did show up, are you surprised they rather vote for Hillary than trump?
Like seriously, are you really that unaware as to the reasons why? Why in God’s name would they vote for somebody who has alt right and white supremacist motivated as all hell?
Minorities voted for Clinton simply because the alternative was much much worse.
And that has already proven to be completely true.
You're right that Trump won 58% of the white vote, not 56%. My bad-- honest mistake.
You say that the alternative was much worse and that has been proven to be true: what are you talking about? How have things gotten worse for African-Americans under Trump?
If I didn't want to know your thoughts on Hillary and Margaret I wouldn't have brought it up!
As for everything else you brought up, I don't care because it has nothing to do with what I originally brought up. Your massive deflection is what was a waste of your time. Separate talking points, separate conversation.
If you don't have an answer for it, then say you don't. That's fine! I wasn't posting to pick a fight and I wasn't making that post trying to get a "Win".
you know why i go after you so damn hard? cause we're boys. how many times have we chopped it up in PMs, talking about real world stuff and families, into the same anime and comics and stuff?
we're tight, but i have to school your ass that way you get it.
just like now. you want me to comment on Sanger so bad? happy birthday.
lets start with your original post:
Originally Posted By: DevilDawg2847
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Who is Hillary? Among many other things, she is someone who looked up to and was influenced by Margaret Sanger. Margaret Sanger is a feminist icon and liberal progressive hero for her work in pushing abortion as a "right to choose" and a way to empower women.
But Margaret Sanger is also the one who pushed abortion as a means of a pseudo-genocide of blacks, and as a means to control their population. She also talked about co-opting the leaders of black communities in order to keep those communities "in check". Though I'm not sure if she spoke about those things before, during, or after her photo shoots with the guys wearing white hoods.
Sanger was only logistics and a hair more sadistic shy of being the next Hitler.
I guess what I'm saying is, it's difficult for me to care about the occasional off color statement made by Trump or anyone else for that matter, when a group of people who complain about being oppressed, repressed, and treated as second class citizens throw the full weight of their political influence (which in spite of being oppressed is quite sizable) behind a woman who was greatly influenced by someone who wanted to see them wiped from the face of the earth.
did you get your nonsense from conservative talking points? did you get your views from Ted cruz and carson?
First, Sanger was ASKED by a black leader in Harlem to open up a clinic in Harlem.
ASKED. not that she took initiative to do it, she was requested by the black community to work amongst them. MLK even praised her when he accepted the Sanger award!
you mentioned essentially her eugenics beliefs, which is highly misinterepreted by pro-rights people and politicians, eseentially trying to make the claim that she wanted specifically black people controlled.
she believed in POPULATION control. you know who also believed those things:
Winston Churchill, Herbert Hoover, Theodore Roosevelt, George Bernard Shaw and H. G. Wells all supported the movement. African-American leader W. E. B. Du Bois backed many of its principles as well.
Du Bois. thats a black guy. did you know that? probably not.
so thats why i didn't waste my time answering your BS. because you literally just lied and spreaded misinformation on the board.
which is a very common theme amongst you conservatives. fake news.
so lets recap:
1. you don't know what you're talking about 2. you allowed conservative politicians who don't know what they're talking about influence your beliefs on a subject that you clearly don't understand the facts 3. you attempted to equate Sanger's beliefs, which you falsely (unintentional or not) tried to equate with Clinton supporting her beliefs and ideas on abortion, and 4. refuse to answer MY questions and comments about things that i actually used REAL facts for.
you tried to use fake news and misrepresentation of the facts in order to justify your belief that clinton was a racist simply because of her support of Sanger. while clinton certainly has credibility problems with regards to relations with minorities, the fact remains that you used a false narrative in order to try and question my crebility on who i voted for, while simutalenously ignoring the FACTS i used to question YOUR credibility for voting for Trump
and THATS THE BOTTOM LINE, CAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
I spit straight facts and all you can do is go “can’t be taken seriously”
We know why cops don’t take facts seriously.
Nope, I never throw out the "typical angry black man" card.
I do take notice that you are still deflecting. And yes, you are deflecting because you still haven't stated just how the stuff you brought up is in any way, shape or form relevant to what I brought up.
You still haven't explained what me be a cop has to do with it either.
Look, if you're stalling because you are trying to learn more about it, that's cool. Don't be embarrassed. Just say hey, let me get back to you.
And if you don't want to have a discussion about it, simply say so. It's not whatever your thoughts on the subject that makes you not to be taken seriously, it's the behavior surrounding it.
kick rocks, i just schooled your ass.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
What? You’re arguing from a number without realizing that damn near half the country didn’t even bother showing up.
That’s completely throws a wrench into what could be considered as “overwhelming”, regardless of how hard you try to ignore it.
For the people that DID vote, you further leave out stats trying to support your flawed ass opinion.
You mention that only 56% of whites voted for trump. It’s actually 58%.
What you continue to FAIL to mention is the fact that white people voted for trump 58% to Hillary’s 37%
That’s an Important stat that you either ignored, or didn’t post because you know it would screw up your argument.
Further more, while blacks did vote for Hillary, she didn’t overwhelming win blacks like obama, or even bill, did when they ran. She had much lower turnout amongst minorities.
But for the minorities that did show up, are you surprised they rather vote for Hillary than trump?
Like seriously, are you really that unaware as to the reasons why? Why in God’s name would they vote for somebody who has alt right and white supremacist motivated as all hell?
Minorities voted for Clinton simply because the alternative was much much worse.
And that has already proven to be completely true.
You're right that Trump won 58% of the white vote, not 56%. My bad-- honest mistake.
You say that the alternative was much worse and that has been proven to be true: what are you talking about? How have things gotten worse for African-Americans under Trump?
hate crimes has gone up, we have worse race relations in this country under him, the way he handled charlottesville is a disaster, and now crazy racist candidates are front runners of the GOP.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
What? You’re arguing from a number without realizing that damn near half the country didn’t even bother showing up.
That’s completely throws a wrench into what could be considered as “overwhelming”, regardless of how hard you try to ignore it.
For the people that DID vote, you further leave out stats trying to support your flawed ass opinion.
You mention that only 56% of whites voted for trump. It’s actually 58%.
What you continue to FAIL to mention is the fact that white people voted for trump 58% to Hillary’s 37%
That’s an Important stat that you either ignored, or didn’t post because you know it would screw up your argument.
Further more, while blacks did vote for Hillary, she didn’t overwhelming win blacks like obama, or even bill, did when they ran. She had much lower turnout amongst minorities.
But for the minorities that did show up, are you surprised they rather vote for Hillary than trump?
Like seriously, are you really that unaware as to the reasons why? Why in God’s name would they vote for somebody who has alt right and white supremacist motivated as all hell?
Minorities voted for Clinton simply because the alternative was much much worse.
And that has already proven to be completely true.
You're right that Trump won 58% of the white vote, not 56%. My bad-- honest mistake.
You say that the alternative was much worse and that has been proven to be true: what are you talking about? How have things gotten worse for African-Americans under Trump?
hate crimes has gone up, we have worse race relations in this country under him, the way he handled charlottesville is a disaster, and now crazy racist candidates are front runners of the GOP.
Have hate crimes really gone up? I haven't followed that trend. I do know that some of the more high-profile hate crimes later turned out to be hoaxes. However, few hear about the followup-- one of those, "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on" kind of things.
That said, I can also see how the current atmosphere could make extremists more emboldened. How much that has to do with Trump and how much it's the hostile and politically charged atmosphere in general is debatable though.
That said, I can also see how the current atmosphere could make extremists more emboldened. How much that has to do with Trump and how much it's the hostile and politically charged atmosphere in general is debatable though.
So when Trump tweets out racist lies from a website dedicated solely to white supremacy, you don't think that has any effect on extremists? You don't think they hear the call?
Also, race relations arguably got much worse under Obama than they have under Trump.
white people marching in the streets saying he's a foreign born muslim had a lot to do with that.
actually, it was the main thing, other than the fact that yall was ticked off a black guy was in the oval to begin with.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
Also, race relations arguably got much worse under Obama than they have under Trump.
Yeah, I remember when he got elected, there was this insane guy who kept saying that Obama was born in Africa. He invented this weird delusional story about how he sent investigators to Hawaii to prove it, and then would call into "Fox & Friends" every week for like 5 years lying about the "amazing" things his made up investigators were finding about Obama's birth in Africa.
It couldn't have been the deplorable way he handled Ferguson and other cities' race-related riots, forcing Section 8 housing on communities that did not want it or any number of other things he did. Must have been some group marching in the streets, that got so much media attention that I literally don't even know what group you are talking about (though I have little doubt it happened somewhere, at some time.)
It couldn't have been the deplorable way he handled Ferguson and other cities' race-related riots, forcing Section 8 housing on communities that did not want it or any number of other things he did. Must have been some group marching in the streets, that got so much media attention that I literally don't even know what group you are talking about (though I have little doubt it happened somewhere, at some time.)
did you really just downplay the significance of that birther movement? it was so big it was international news. tea party candidates got elected in with the momentum of the birth movement.
this is why i can't take guys like you and Devil seriously. yall constantly try to downplay REAL racism, and you voted for the guy who constantly stated that obama wasn't born in this country.
you conservatives give me zero reason to ever be nice to you.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
It couldn't have been the deplorable way he handled Ferguson and other cities' race-related riots, forcing Section 8 housing on communities that did not want it or any number of other things he did. Must have been some group marching in the streets, that got so much media attention that I literally don't even know what group you are talking about (though I have little doubt it happened somewhere, at some time.)
did you really just downplay the significance of that birther movement? it was so big it was international news. tea party candidates got elected in with the momentum of the birth movement.
this is why i can't take guys like you and Devil seriously. yall constantly try to downplay REAL racism, and you voted for the guy who constantly stated that obama wasn't born in this country.
you conservatives give me zero reason to ever be nice to you.
You've also gone in rants where you made thinly veiled references that you were going to kill cops. It got so bad that Papa Clem had to talk you down in private. I'm sure Devil is thrilled at the prospect of being nice and reasonable with you. And yet, credit to him, he actually is (though I don't know why.)
You've said that groups of blonde haired people look like Klan rallies. You go on and on about conservative white people, you just recently said Trump supporters are the nation's biggest terrorist group. Don't lecture me about racism.
notice how you made sure to make the distinction of conservative white people.
that just ruined whatever you were trying to go with it.
oh and guess what haus? you voted for the guy who rallied the klan members. you attempted to argue and/or imply that blacks were inherently racist.
so yea, i can lecture you about whatever i damn well please.
because at the end of the day, i didn't support the guy who claimed that there were good people amongst neo nazis.
you did.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
You rant about white people on here constantly, both explicitly and implicitly. Others have noticed it too.
you mean a minority is defending minorities on a white dominate board?
shocking.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
TRUMP: Get all the black people off my casino floor.
Haus: I like this guy. Don't lecture me about racism.
The exchange between Swish and me was not about Trump and most of what I talked about was when you were on a hiatus from the board. I'm not sure you even know what I'm referring to.
You rant about white people on here constantly, both explicitly and implicitly. Others have noticed too.
How about all the white guys that bash mexicans, illegals, ghetto queens, transgenders, gays, etc... both explicitly and implicitly! Others have noticed too. MANY OTHERS.
You rant about white people on here constantly, both explicitly and implicitly. Others have noticed too.
How about all the white guys that bash mexicans, illegals, ghetto queens, transgenders, gays, etc... both explicitly and implicitly! Others have noticed too. MANY OTHERS.
What about the black people who bash all of those same people?
TRUMP: Get all the black people off my casino floor.
Haus: I like this guy. Don't lecture me about racism.
The exchange between Swish and me was not about Trump and most of what I talked about was when you were on a hiatus from the board. I'm not sure you even know what I'm referring to.
I was just pointing out the irony of a Trump supporter saying "don't lecture me about racism". It's kind of like a teenager getting his stomach pumped saying "don't lecture me about alcohol poisoning".
You rant about white people on here constantly, both explicitly and implicitly. Others have noticed too.
How about all the white guys that bash mexicans, illegals, ghetto queens, transgenders, gays, etc... both explicitly and implicitly! Others have noticed too. MANY OTHERS.
I've seen quite a bit of outrage directed at criminal aliens, and rightly so. Some of it can be over the top but I understand where the passion comes from.
Where's all this gay bashing you speak of? At most, people just don't want it shoved in their face constantly and I suppose there's the occasional religious person who chimes in as well.
Transgender stuff is usually reserved for not wanting adult men to be able to choose which dressing room they want to use, as well as being against forcing this lifestyle on children. Or maybe you think it is a good idea to cut a boy's d#$& off and pump him full of estrogen?
My urban terminology is a bit outdated so I'm going to avoid the ghetto queen thing. Can you describe what that is and who has ranted about that?
The number of reported hate crimes in the United States has risen for the second straight year in 2016, according to statistics released by the FBI.
The number of hate crimes in 2016 was 6,121 - about a 5% jump from 2015. About half of those incidents were motivated by race, the agency says.
The latest statistics are based on voluntary reporting from nearly 16,000 US law enforcement agencies.
The FBI did not give a reason for a rise in reported hate crimes.
"No person should have to fear being violently attacked because of who they are, what they believe, of how they worship," Attorney General Jeff Sessions said in a statement on Monday.
'I fear my neighbour' - the story behind US hate crimes He shot at a mosque - and his life changed Mr Sessions added that he would await a Department of Justice Crime Reduction and Public Safety task force report to determine what actions should be taken to address the increase.
According to the FBI, hate crimes can range from property vandalism to violence and murder.
'Trump effect' led to hate crime surge, report finds Are hate crimes spiking after Trump's victory? In incidents where the perpetrators were identified, the FBI found that about 58% of crimes were motivated by the victims' race, ethnicity or ancestry.
Meanwhile, 21% of crimes were motivated by religion and nearly 18% by a victim's sexual orientation.
About half the 1,273 incidents involving religion were against Jews while Muslims were targeted in 307 religion-based crimes.
The FBI's report was consistent with a report released earlier this year by a civil rights group that found an apparent increase in the number of anti-Muslim hate groups this past year.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit which tracks hate groups, attributed the bump to the 2016 presidential election, in which Donald Trump assailed Muslims and Hispanics as extremists and illegal immigrants. However, no link has been proven between the election and the increase.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
WASHINGTON — The number of hate crimes in major U.S. cities rose for the third consecutive year last year, driven by attacks on Jews, Muslims, blacks and LGBT people, preliminary police data exclusively provided to VOA show.
At least 1,056 hate crimes were committed in nine of nation’s largest cities in 2017, an increase of 18 percent from 2016 levels, according to police data compiled by the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University at San Bernardino.
Several major metropolitan areas, such as Washington, Philadelphia, Seattle and Phoenix, reported double-digit increases in hate-based crimes, extending a trend that started in 2015 and accelerated during the contentious presidential election campaign in 2016.
Among the nation’s five largest cities, the overall increase in hate crimes was smaller; however, the number of reported incidents rose to 719 from 664, an uptick of 8 percent.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Librarians at Simmons College have published several online guides surrounding social-justice issues, include a recent one that warns against "transmisic microaggressions."
According to the school's librarians, "transmisia" is a state that leads to "cis fragility" among non-transgender people, who allegedly want to "restore and reproduce cisnormativity."
Simmons College librarians are warning against “transmisic microaggressions” in a new guide arguing that cisgender people are “fragile” and “defensive.”
The “Anti-Transmisia” guide seeks to resist the “systemized discrimination or antagonism directed against transgender/nonbinary/genderqueer/agender persons,” explaining that it is a form of hatred “rooted in a desire to maintain the gender binary.”
The gender binary, the librarians argue, is a social construction that causes so-called transmisia and “obscures the reality of the spectrum and fluidity of gender and marginalizes the identities and experiences of persons whose gender does not align with their birth-assigned sex.”
To that end, the librarians worry that people will intentionally or unintentionally commit “transmisic microaggressions,” which they suggest “communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative slights and insults in relation to gender, gender identity, and/or gender expression.”
“They are structurally based and invoke oppressive systems of a (cis)gender hierarchy. Transmisic Microinvalidations, Microinsults, [and] Microassaults are specific types of microaggressions,” they add.
The guide also links transmisia to the “cis fragility” of people who aren’t transgender, meaning transmisia causes “cis fragility.”
“Cis fragility...is rooted in a desire to restore and reproduce cisnormativity,” the guide explains, adding that this results in non-trans people developing a “lack of stamina” that leads to a tendency to become angry and defensive during conversations about transgender issues.
“Cis people therefore can exhibit a low tolerance for that which challenges their gender identities and their conceptions of gender more broadly,” the librarians contend.
[RELATED: Librarians learn to create ‘safe spaces,’ fight ‘privilege’]
The guide was collectively created by staff librarians, according to Jason Wood, the deputy director of the Simmons College library.
Notably, the college’s librarians have conducted similar work over the years, creating guides for professors on topics such as using trigger warnings in the classroom, privilege and intersectionality, and social justice allyship.
The number of reported hate crimes in the United States has risen for the second straight year in 2016, according to statistics released by the FBI.
The number of hate crimes in 2016 was 6,121 - about a 5% jump from 2015. About half of those incidents were motivated by race, the agency says.
The latest statistics are based on voluntary reporting from nearly 16,000 US law enforcement agencies.
I wonder if a part of that rise might be the lens we use to view what is a hate crime... Since it's based on local self-reporting, seems to me that it is up to local jurisdictions to determine what constitutes a hate crime.. I'm not downplaying your statistics or the trend, just stating it's something very fluid and hard to get an actual count, since what you are counting isn't crime, it's motive for crime...
Here's how simple this all is. Since Hillary lost, we ended up with a terrible president in Trump. Had Trump lost, we would have ended up with a terrible president in Hillary. Either way America was going to lose.
That is the fault of both of our major political parties. If saying that makes me a fence sitter because neither party can come up with a legitimate candidate, so be it.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
But America is winning again after years of stagnation.
-Strengthening Economy. -Money in our pockets. -North Korea at the negotiating table. -Businesses and Corporations once again able to compete on the world market. -on and on under Trump.
But America is losing again after years of thriving.
-Destruction of small internet businesses, under the repeal of net neutrality for the sake of propping up media companies. -Ignoring the healthcare issue in the country and loss of insurance for millions -A tax plan that does nothing for small business and lines the pockets of large corporations. -on and on under Trump.
