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Barkley.....just cant get visions of Gilbert off my mind....lol

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We all have bad visions regardless of position ... willynilly


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Originally Posted By: Riley01
Barkley.....just cant get visions of Gilbert off my mind....lol


Ugh... Justin Gilbert was a name that'll now be with me until draft day. Appreciate it lol.

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How true brother...How true

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How true bro ...How true

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How true bro ....How true

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Barkley.....just cant get visions of Gilbert off my mind....lol


I can't get visions of Richardson off mine

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Barkley is going to dissapoint a lot of people ...




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Barkley is going to dissapoint a lot of people ...



imagine how people will feel about a 6' tall Air Raid QB out of Oklahoma getting drafted in the first round.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/4/21/11473382/jared-goff-nfl-draft-2016-cal-air-raid

Air raid QBs have bombed in the NFL. Can Jared Goff be the 1st to truly succeed?


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look, we all know defense wins championships. We all KNOW THIS.

BUT LET ME SAY THIS! We have watched inanimate, putrid, disgusting offenses for 19 years!!! At this point, I want to see some freakin touchdowns. Plain and simple, I want excitement. I want something to CHEER for. We literally HAVE NOTHING.

DRAFT BARKLEY. I don't care if its at 1 or 4, draft someone that I can say "hey, hes worth almost 4 hours of my Sunday to watch. cause over 19 years, we have not had a single reason too.

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Barkley is going to dissapoint a lot of people ...

??? How so,
So basically you are saying he will be a bust. Your obvious response is NO! Show me where I said that? Point blank somebody that big n strong, that fast...those hands, is going to disappoint, guess what? He's a bust.

How many 10+runs did Crowell have? Well on those runs he had a gaping hole where he did not get touched.
Well with Barkley he is going all the way or the threat of. Back to the question...how many runs of 10+ runs???The kid will be amazing. How many swing passes? Screens. The kid will be amazing or a bust. He wont disappoint. He's a stud wink


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No ... I didn’t say that at all ... theres a HUGE GAP between “dissapointing” people who think your the 2nd coming and being a BUST ...

Barkley is VERY GOOD .. theres a lot to like there ... hes a GREAT ATHELETE ... hes not a GREAT RUNNING BACK as far as i’m concerned ...

I’d much rather have a guy like Fournette .. u know .. a guy that doesn’t rely so heavily on his speed that he takes every run possible OUTSIDE AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE MOMENT ...

Thats my preference ... especially with Duke here ...

I’ve watched all but 2 of his games .. will get to those soon ... the TAPE does not show a good inside runner what so ever ... NO SIGNS OF THAT AT ALL ... granted they didn’t run him up the middle much ... when they did ... he did ZILCH for me when he didn’t cut it outside immediately ...

Hes a SPEED GUY in my opinion ... we’ll know more and see whose right in a few years ... thumbsup

I hope things went well sir ... any word yet?




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could I be more accurate...lol laugh

I just hope he's there at 4 wink


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I hope hes there at 5 ... wink ....




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do yourself a favor.
Watch the Iowa vs Penn State get tape of that game. Going on my memory. After watching this game I made sure I would as many as I could. It was his last game healthy, there were several runs where I swore he broke his leg n then there he was the next series back on the field. Great player.


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I watched it all ready ... for u ... i’ll go re-watch it ... i’ll get back to u after i do ...

I don’t see any semblance of an inside runner ... he broke everything outside asap ..




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
I hope hes there at 5 ... wink ....


Funniest post of the day.

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Hehehe...too easy.
You ever hear the expression running the ladder. Just where do you think the ladder leads to?

Btw whats the RBs best friend...hint its another saying "the sideline"

And just where does the fastest guy on the field should go to with the ball.

You guys are funny. lol:D


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The NFL isn’t college my friend ... it isn’t college ...

Whats the biggest adjustment from college to the pro’s .... wink

The ladder in the nfl leads to the sideline a yard or two upfield As opposed to in the end zone or 20 yards downfield ... thumbsup




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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Did u watch this years Super Bowl? .. or last years? ... the most glaring thing to me ...

all 4 of them had RB’s by committee ... all 4 teams put up HUGE OFFENSIVE NUMBERS w/o a STUD RB or not a SINGLE HIGH PICK SPENT ON A RB spent by them (to the best of my knowledge) ...

And OFFENSE WASN’T THE PROBLEM ... wink ...




Did you watch the Browns last season? Our running backs suck. Actually, they are worse than that, they suck AND blow! My dream back is a 15/15 guy. 1500 yards rushing and 15 touchdowns. Now that isn't usually attainable of course... But that should be the goal. Wasn't long ago that Beast Mode was pretty important to a Super Bowl team. If Seattle hands it to him one last time they would have two rings instead of one. I think Barkely is special. I could be wrong. It's happened before. But if he IS a special back and we pass, we will regret it. Likely a moot point he won't be there at #4. I wish we would trade up and take a QB AND Barkley. Rookie QB's best friend is a running game. Give our new OC a running back like Barkley and he will run the ball. That opens up the play action.


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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
I hope hes there at 5 ... wink ....


I don't think he will be there at 2...

And probably not a Brown, but I hope he will...

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Quan vs Iowa was sick.

RE: Inside runs

Handful of inside the runs. Some start inside then he breaks outside after ~4-7 yards. Some inside runs he breaks outside after making an defender miss in the hole. Either way inside, outside, makes dudes look silly, jumps over dudes, catches passes.


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Hehehe...too easy.
You ever hear the expression running the ladder. Just where do you think the ladder leads to?

Btw whats the RBs best friend...hint its another saying "the sideline"

And just where does the fastest guy on the field should go to with the ball.

You guys are funny. lol:D


I thought the sideline was a DB's best friend.

An RB's best friend is his OL.

I'm not worried about Barkley on 1st and 10. I'm a little worried about 3rd and 1.

Does anyone know if they have situational stats like that for RBs somewhere?

They had the vs. stacked boxes stats which are similar, and other RBs performed better there.


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Cause our safeties and CB’s ar so AWESOME .... rolleyes ...




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How many of Iowa’s defenders are going to the NFL? ..

How many of OSU’s defenders are going to the NFL? ..

How was Quan against OSU? ...

He will be no where’s near as affective in the NFL as he is in college .. SPEED OF THE GAME ... and thats a lot of his game ... if he becomes the stud u guys think he will be ... he will have to LEARN HOW TO RUN INSIDE .... cause he doesn’t do it now ...




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Quan vs Iowa was sick.

RE: Inside runs

Handful of inside the runs. Some start inside then he breaks outside after ~4-7 yards. Some inside runs he breaks outside after making an defender miss in the hole. Either way inside, outside, makes dudes look silly, jumps over dudes, catches passes.




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I didnt know the nfl want lik college. Thanks. And yet its the easiest transision.

The outside is a big tool for speed fact is he has the speed and he worked it outside. Just because he is big but he is usually the fastest guy on the field. And guess what my friend that aint changing when he goes into the NFL. You act like this is a bad thing...oh look he constantly goes outside and you make it as if its a bad habit...lol laugh no he is going outside BECAUSE HE CAN.
Look at the nfl not college. The fastest RBs all go outside doctors working on leg...bye


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Agree, I'd take Barkley over Fitz....might take him at Number ONE, we need to score points...IF the football brain trust thinks there is NO clear winner at QB...I could easily be all in on Bark....GO Browns!!!


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Could not disagree with you more.

Barkley will be a force. As a runner, receiver, and returner.

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Bye ...
sorry didnt mean to offend you by proving my opinion.
Now ask me if we should take Barkley #1. No we should not...QB is our priority. If there at #4 I repeat we run up there.


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Totally correct.

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U didn’t offend me with your opinion ... u have yours, i have mine ....

U stated yours and I stated mine .... were not changing each other’s minds repeating the same things over and over and over again ..

Your opinion is Quan at 4 .... mine is Fitz at 4 .... we STATED OUR REASONS ...

Nothing left to say ... i thought the convo was over ... it is for me ... not to be rude .... there’s nothing left to say .... like i said ... we’ll know in a couple years ... if we draft him ... i hope your right ... thumbsup




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Nice bench and 40 from Barkley. He's a top five pick imo if rb position is a need.

I still want Minkah and think in an overall manner, he'd help the holes that need filled better.

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Originally Posted By: bonefish
Could not disagree with you more.

Barkley will be a force. As a runner, receiver, and returner.




Not sure anybody can be a force as a returner anymore, and I don't want my starting back returning kicks of any kind.


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Quote:
Last few days of talking to people and hearing Minkah Fitzpatrick is going too early in these media mock drafts, and Harold Landry is going too late.


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To be honest I think we are down to Barkley/Chubb/Ward/Trade at #4 ... JMHO

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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
U didn’t offend me with your opinion ... u have yours, i have mine ....

U stated yours and I stated mine .... were not changing each other’s minds repeating the same things over and over and over again ..

Your opinion is Quan at 4 .... mine is Fitz at 4 .... we STATED OUR REASONS ...

Nothing left to say ... i thought the convo was over ... it is for me ... not to be rude .... there’s nothing left to say .... like i said ... we’ll know in a couple years ... if we draft him ... i hope your right ... thumbsup


tough to communicate on a message board, the one word "BYE" threw me for a loop...lol laugh

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I will be very surprised if we take Barkley @ 4. If QBs go 1-2-3, which I'm assuming at this point, then I think we will go Chubb or trade.

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