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I'm also not ready to give up on Peppers. But at least to this point I believe Peppers is evidence of what I have believed for a very long time. Being an eye popping athlete does not make you a great football player. There are great athletes and there are great football players. Numbers, drills and 40 times can muddy the waters and confuse people on the difference between someone being a player and being an athlete.

There are times when a player can be both. They're often not mutually exclusive. But if the film isn't there on the player, the numbers won't change that.

He lived up to what I expected. Showed next to nothing for that pick. May get better. That stupid defensive alignment wasn't the only problem with his game.

This points to a problem we have had, drafting for skill set and not using those strengths. Like picking Danny Shelton for his pass coverage skills. Stop the overthought nonsense and play some hardcore mainstream football. I would not keep Peppers if this year is a mirror of last season.

Coming out all I saw in the guy was a nickle safety, that’s still kinda where I am right now. I was hoping for Obi Melinfonwu because of the potential down the raid, knew he wasn’t ready to contribute right away. Peppers can be a decent player, in the right role, which IMO is staying close to the line as a third safety, big nickle defense. He’s not quite good enough to be the slot safety all the time but in some sub packages he’d be ok. Thought he’d be a whole better in the return game then he showed. Very disappointed there. Heck maybe move him to offense, RB/slot guy, lol

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Ya'll writing Peppers off WAYYY too soon. Kid was brilliant in the final game after showing continued progress throughout the season. He's a rookie. Some of ya'll seem to want them to be utterly flawless or else you're done with them after a week.

Ultimately irrelevant, however. Gregg Williams:



Hate him or love him, expect him to play a large role in what Gregg Williams does in 2018/19.

I'm excited to see what Peppers does next year. Particularly if we can get a true FS like Joyner or Fitzpatrick. Peppers is a SS with great potential up in the box. He needs to be there.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to sound like I was writing him off, I think he’s got a long way left to go is all. I think he could be a starter at some point, just not yet. I don’t know if he’ll ever have star potential, though. That’s just my opinion on him, it’s the same as when he was drafted, but Greg Williams knows more then I do, so I’ll wait to see what he does in year two.

You're not wrong. He does have a long way to go. But we've seen him make strides in what should be the worst of him, so there is reason enough to assume that his experiences can help him take a leap moving forward.

Grossi (LOL) reported this week that he's been told Peppers will be moving in to the box. That's a positive step in the right direction, albeit one we already knew was likely.

That's where the kid can thrive. Where we're seen him thrive. The disappointment is understandable, but largely unwarranted.

I blame a lot of it on Williams. The angel defense was a killer. He didn't have a chance to impact most plays, and it was brutal on his tackle attempts (It's hard enough to make an open field tackle on elite players, it's harder to do when they're getting the ball with more open space than normal.)

It didn't help that we lacked pass rush (Ogbah and Garrett never really got on the field at the same time with both healthy) and we struggled at corner - be it honestly, or Williams overreacting, or both.

That's not to absolve Peppers of his struggles, but his environment certainly contributed to it. We're likely to address that this offseason via natural growth (Hyped to see Garrett, Ogbah and Ogunjobi next year) or draft/free agency.

It should all bode well for Peppers - who, by all accounts, is a damn hard worker who should be poise for a big 2018.

Not saying you're wrong, just saying it's way too soon to draw any conclusions for a player who was/is trending upwards.

I'm gonna ask this because I'm curious.

Minkah-Fitzpatrick? Why are you so sure he's a True FS in the NFL?

I've watched a TON of Bama football.

He's even said it himself that he's MOST comfortable in the Slot.

Firstly, he said he was most comfortable in the slot because Saban moved him back to the slot. He'd have been more comfortable at waterboy if that's what Saban wanted. That's the kind of kid he is.

Secondly, the context of what he said was that he was more comfortable in the slot because his move to safety was mid-season and he had to learn all the calls to direct the defense. At corner, he only had to worry about covering his man. It wasn't a lack of ability, merely an unfamiliarity.

Thirdly, I don't care what he says. If you've watched a lot of Alabama Football, then surely you know he's much too talented to simply be used as a slot corner. That's a waste of his ability and it isn't going to happen in the NFL. There isn't a single NFL team that will exclusively use him in the slot. It just won't happen.

Fourth, he's not going to be a true FS. Not really. He'll likely be used just as Tyrann Mathieu has been used - plenty of slot corner, plenty of FS. Versatility. Moved around where required. Gregg Williams loves it, and the combination of Fitzpatrick/Peppers is endless fun with two of the most versatile DBs to enter the league in years. Speaking of which, Williams will trust Peppers, Schobert, Kirksey and Collins to make calls. They did last year, and his confidence in them will only grow. That won't be an issue for Fitzpatrick. He'll be eased in on that front.

As for my confidence in him playing a true FS role as a player, just watch him. The guy is a baller who is built to play FS, imho. Someone could put him at corner, but I'd consider that a restriction of his talent, and I'm sure not the only person who envisions him as a FS.

To each his own. I love the kid and think he'll be a stud.

Chiefs net 2nd, 4th-round picks for Marcus Peters

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...r-marcus-peters

Pretty good value for the Rams. I'd have traded that for Marcus Peters for sure. I think this says more about what teams think about Peters' character than anything else.

Yes, exactly. I'm sure the Chiefs are happy to get rid of him.

Saw Peters getting interviewed yesterday. After about 3 seconds he was already starting irritate me.

Great reference, tab!

Hope you are doing well.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/969394529370558465

Jarvis Landry - WR - Dolphins

The Miami Herald reports the Bears have emerged as a trade "possibility" for franchise tagged WR Jarvis Landry.

Reporter Barry Jackson also passes along that Landry will soon sign the tag, a necessary precursor to any deal. Per Jackson, Chicago is one of multiple teams that has emerged as a possible suitor. The Dolphins have told Landry they will not be making a long-term offer "at this time," but that they would be comfortable with him playing under the $16 million tag in 2018. That's hard to believe for a cap-strapped team that has indicated time and again it was ready for Landry to walk. The Dolphins have granted Landry permission to seek a trade, meaning both sides are working on a potential move out of town.

Related: Bears

Source: Miami HeraldMar 1 - 10:11 PM

I like Jarvis Landry and think he is a good player, but I don't know if I like the idea of paying what he's going to get for what he brings to the table. I'd much rather have someone like Taylor Gabriel who is also very good and will likely be much cheaper.

Gabriel might be an option .. it might also depend on what type of WR we are targeting in teh draft

I don't think Landry is worth hefty FA contract whatsoever.

Robert Quinn - DL - Dolphins

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Dolphins have acquired DE Robert Quinn from the Rams.
Related: Rams

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitte

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/969697628710678528



https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/969698937413210112

Born: May 18, 1990 (age 27) He turns 28 in May I thought he was much older ...

WOW ... didn’t see this coming ... i wonder what they got for him ...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-miami-dolphins

L.A. Rams to trade Robert Quinn to Miami Dolphins

The Los Angeles Rams are parting ways with defensive end Robert Quinn.

The Rams have agreed to trade Quinn to the Miami Dolphins, a source informed of the situation told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport. The trade cannot become official until the NFL new league year begins March 14.

Compensation the Rams would receive for Quinn was not immedately available. Quinn was notified of the trade during a conference call with the Dolphins, Rapoport reported.

Quinn's exit from Los Angeles marks the second high-profile move by Rams general manager Les Snead this offseason. Last week, the Rams acquired two-time Pro Bowl cornerback Marcus Peters in a trade with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Around The NFL will have more on Quinn leaving for the Dolphins soon.

Here’s why ....

Robert Quinn - DL - Dolphins

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Dolphins have acquired DE Robert Quinn from the Rams.
No word yet on what's heading back to Los Angeles, but we'd imagine it's draft-pick compensation after the Rams gave up a second- and fourth-rounder in exchange for CB Marcus Peters last week. Quinn was a first-team All-Pro in 2013 and amassed a whopping 40 sacks between 2012-2014. He missed 15 games in 2015 and 2016 but played in all 16 last season, notching 8.5 sacks as a stand-up 3-4 linebacker. He'll go back to his traditional 4-3 end spot in Miami, joining Cameron Wake and 2017 first-rounder Charles Harris. Quinn, 28 in May, is signed through 2019. The move saves the Rams a much-needed $11.4 million against the cap but creates a gaping edge-rusher hole.

Related: Rams

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Mar 2 - 5:12 PM

Looks like the Rams are clearing space to make sure Lamarcus Joyner doesn't get away.

Makes sense, I know they have that ongoing situation with Joyner, Sammy Watkins, and Trumaine all set to hit FA

Jarvis Landry - WR - Dolphins

Joe Schad of the Palm Beach Post listed the Bears, Browns, Ravens and 49ers as teams interested in acquiring Jarvis Landry.

The Bears and Ravens had previously been linked to Landry while the Browns and 49ers are new suitors. Cleveland should have more than enough cap space to accommodate Landry at his $16.2 million salary while the Niners would be wise to add a pass-catcher for Jimmy Garoppolo. The Dolphins were already over the cap when they acquired Robert Quinn from the Rams on Friday and will be in dire straits if they don't move Landry before the start of free agency. Miami probably regrets tagging Landry and may rescind the tag if his trade market dries up.

Related: Ravens, Bears, Browns, 49ers

Source: Joe Schad on TwitterMar 2 - 8:26 PM

i probably would have given up a 3rd and the money for Quinn ... add him to our rotation at Edge/OLB would look nice

According to Chad Forbes, the Denver Broncos have reportedly engaged in trade talks with the Cleveland Browns for the 1st overall pick in the 2018 NFL Draft. Forbes indicates that this is all highly dependent on where impending free agent Kirk Cousins lands in free agency.


Chad Forbes
@NFLDraftBites
#BROWNS & #Broncos Have engaged in trade talks of 1st overall pick highly dependent on where Kirk Cousins lands. But there’s a line of communication very open.

This is just a rumor for now, but something that makes a ton of sense. Reports out there state that the Broncos are going “all in” on quarterback Kirk Cousins. This shows that Broncos General Manager John Elway will be aggressive and if he misses out on Cousins, he will turn his aggressiveness to the draft.

Cleveland Browns General Manager John Dorsey indicated that he is open to talking to other GM’s about trading for the number one overall pick as well.

“Any good GM wants to field calls from his peers, so why wouldn’t I? That’s why I say, ‘Guys, just give me a call. See what’s up.’”

The Broncos attention is fully on Kirk Cousins right now, but if he ends up in Minnesota or New York, the Broncos have to regroup and look at their option. My best guess is that their target in this rumored trade would be UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen. USC’s Sam Darnold is considered the top overall pick right now, but I believe that the Broncos prefer Rosen over Darnold. There have been plenty of whispers out there about the Broncos liking Rosen as well, so my gut tells me that would be the target.

I am not worried about the price. If Elway and his peers feel like Rosen or Darnold is their next quarterback of the future, give up whatever you need.

In the end, It is going to be a fun few weeks for us as John Elway and the Broncos work towards fixing their quarterback position for the foreseeable future.


https://www.milehighreport.com/2018/3/3/...st-overall-pick

I will inquire my Denver friend about this. But oh hell no. I don't see this happening.

Lol

Agreed. The number 4 spot might be open though. Especially if the Cardinals or Vikings get Cousins. Then the Jets and Broncos can duel it out. If no offer is good enough, we get one of Barkley, Fitz, and Chubb. One will be there, maybe two.

Either way, we can't go wrong. I really like this number 4 pick. Worth much more than the number 5, that's for sure

Can't go Barkley at 1. A runningback this year isn't worth the number 1 pick. I think, even if we got Cousins, we'd trade down out of the number 1 pick.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Giants and/or Colts trade down too.


QB is too important in the NFL. How many superbowls did Barry Sanders, Adrian Peterson, Ladanian Tomilinson go to? And today, it's even more important.

You can win a superbowl with Nick Foles, but it's unusual, and you won't have the consistency of success that the teams with top QBs do. Much easier to find a great QB than to keep a great team together.


So, me, I don't think we'll draft Barkley at number 1 no matter what. He might be the best player in the draft, but because of the position, it's just not justifiable. Same with that Nelson from Notre Dame

So many people complained that we did not run the ball enough. Crow could not do the job. Yes he had a good Average, but a 30 yard gain and nine 1 yard gains = 3.9 ypc. We need a consistent back and that is what Barkley appears to be.

I agree. If teams are willing to give up a haul for the first overall pick, that means they really think there is a great qb available. We don't have a qb, so why in the hell would be stupid enough to give them a stud qb so we can acquire more draft picks when we already have them coming out of ass?

Sorry, I don't see us trading out of #1.