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If you start a thank-you Hue thread I will
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There isn't any proof in the links you posted that Hue didn't have a voice on the quarterbacks. Oh and Hue said he didn't text Watson on draft day... so... and also Hue wanted Hooker and not Watson.
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There isn't any proof in the links you posted that Hue didn't have a voice on the quarterbacks. Oh and Hue said he didn't text Watson on draft day... so... and also Hue wanted Hooker and not Watson. who had final say on the roster? thats who to blame
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I like the way you presented that Diam  Thank you Sashi and thank you Diam
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Unfortunately, people do not want to hear or read the truth. They would rather come up with their own baseless opinions, even though articles and quotes are saying that Hue did not have alot of say in the war room. Sashi/Depodesta had more say and that got Sashi let go!!
Yes, Diam, Sashi made some cap room and draft pick moves that left the Browns in good shape for picking up talent. But his moves at QB got him fired. Now Dorsey and Hue gotta convince some FA that Cleveland is on the way up!! Then make some draft picks that make sense and are day 1 ready.
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It seems as if the narrative has changed over the last couple years. false..
Hue had no say... He wanted Wentz. I have never changed my take. Hue liked Wentz, didn't think he'd be a good pick at 2 (obviously he proved to be). He LOVED Goff... wanted him badly. No change. Since the report by ESPN's Adam Schefter on Tuesday that the Browns have "split opinions" on Garrett vs. Trubisky at No. 1 overall, I've seen it written several places that Jackson favors Trubisky -- but sources tell cleveland.com he's actually in the Garrett camp.
Folks assume he favors Trubisky because he's the quarterback expert, but he provided five clues at NFL meetings last month that he prefers the Texas A&M pass rusher at No. 1.
First and foremost, he wants a surefire game changer -- the clear-cut best player in the draft.
"Everybody is not the No. 1 pick in the draft,'' Jackson said. "There's maybe only one or two or three guys that can actually be that.
"When you draft a guy as the No. 1 pick in the National Football League, you want him to be a very dominant player, you want him to be a cornerstone player, you want him to be a generational player. That's got to be the focus as we continue to move forward.''
According to most draft experts, Garrett is the only player in this draft who fits that description. What's more, Jackson made it clear that none of the quarterbacks had separated himself from the others at that point. "I think he made that very clear,'' Jackson said on a conference call, via Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot. "If I texted him and said, 'Get ready,' or whatever it is that everybody is saying I said, it probably was 'Be ready for the draft,' and not to become (a Brown). I think he said that very clearly. I think we are making more of this than what it is." Still, this is interesting: Coach Hue Jackson told NFL Network’s Michael Silver which player he wanted the Browns to draft if they had stayed at No. 12. It was Ohio State safety Malik Hooker, who eventually went to the Indianapolis Colts at No. 15.
“To me, he has a chance to be another Ed Reed,” Jackson told Silver, who wrote a behind-the-scenes draft recap story for NFL.com after being embedded at Browns headquarters in Berea and spending time in their war room last week. “When I coached in Baltimore, I saw firsthand what kind of impact a great safety can have.” According to Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com, Jackson admitted that when the Browns took quarterback Cody Kessler with pick No. 93 in the third round, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott was discussed as well.
"We liked [Prescott]," Jackson said. "Obviously, he's shown to be really good. He was definitely a guy that was in consideration, but obviously we have the guy that we took and they have the guy that they took. Everybody has the right guy for them, and he fits for them." In fact, some experts had Kessler pegged as a late-round pick or a priority free agent and one had him ranked as the 17th-best quarterback. He was the sixth one off the board.
"You have to trust me on this one,'' Jackson said. In a recent meeting that included a number of team executives, Cleveland Browns coach Hue Jackson explained with wide eyes to those in attendance, including owner Jimmy Haslam and his wife, what he saw during a private workout from Robert Griffin III last week.
Jackson explained how, at one point when Griffin rolled out in a full sprint to throw a pass, "it felt like the Earth moved beneath my feet," according to team sources. He told them how Griffin's accuracy in passing drills was "freakish." It was surreal and special. It was everything you remember from 2012 -- and everything you have forgotten since.
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Unfortunately, people do not want to hear or read the truth. They would rather come up with their own baseless opinions, even though articles and quotes are saying that Hue did not have alot of say in the war room. It seems as if the narrative has changed over the last couple years. false..
Hue had no say... He wanted Wentz. I have never changed my take. Hue liked Wentz, didn't think he'd be a good pick at 2 (obviously he proved to be). He LOVED Goff... wanted him badly. No change. Since the report by ESPN's Adam Schefter on Tuesday that the Browns have "split opinions" on Garrett vs. Trubisky at No. 1 overall, I've seen it written several places that Jackson favors Trubisky -- but sources tell cleveland.com he's actually in the Garrett camp.
Folks assume he favors Trubisky because he's the quarterback expert, but he provided five clues at NFL meetings last month that he prefers the Texas A&M pass rusher at No. 1.
First and foremost, he wants a surefire game changer -- the clear-cut best player in the draft.
"Everybody is not the No. 1 pick in the draft,'' Jackson said. "There's maybe only one or two or three guys that can actually be that.
"When you draft a guy as the No. 1 pick in the National Football League, you want him to be a very dominant player, you want him to be a cornerstone player, you want him to be a generational player. That's got to be the focus as we continue to move forward.''
According to most draft experts, Garrett is the only player in this draft who fits that description. What's more, Jackson made it clear that none of the quarterbacks had separated himself from the others at that point. "I think he made that very clear,'' Jackson said on a conference call, via Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot. "If I texted him and said, 'Get ready,' or whatever it is that everybody is saying I said, it probably was 'Be ready for the draft,' and not to become (a Brown). I think he said that very clearly. I think we are making more of this than what it is." Still, this is interesting: Coach Hue Jackson told NFL Network’s Michael Silver which player he wanted the Browns to draft if they had stayed at No. 12. It was Ohio State safety Malik Hooker, who eventually went to the Indianapolis Colts at No. 15.
“To me, he has a chance to be another Ed Reed,” Jackson told Silver, who wrote a behind-the-scenes draft recap story for NFL.com after being embedded at Browns headquarters in Berea and spending time in their war room last week. “When I coached in Baltimore, I saw firsthand what kind of impact a great safety can have.” According to Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com, Jackson admitted that when the Browns took quarterback Cody Kessler with pick No. 93 in the third round, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott was discussed as well.
"We liked [Prescott]," Jackson said. "Obviously, he's shown to be really good. He was definitely a guy that was in consideration, but obviously we have the guy that we took and they have the guy that they took. Everybody has the right guy for them, and he fits for them." In fact, some experts had Kessler pegged as a late-round pick or a priority free agent and one had him ranked as the 17th-best quarterback. He was the sixth one off the board.
"You have to trust me on this one,'' Jackson said. In a recent meeting that included a number of team executives, Cleveland Browns coach Hue Jackson explained with wide eyes to those in attendance, including owner Jimmy Haslam and his wife, what he saw during a private workout from Robert Griffin III last week.
Jackson explained how, at one point when Griffin rolled out in a full sprint to throw a pass, "it felt like the Earth moved beneath my feet," according to team sources. He told them how Griffin's accuracy in passing drills was "freakish." It was surreal and special. It was everything you remember from 2012 -- and everything you have forgotten since.
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It seems as if the narrative has changed over the last couple years. false..
Hue had no say... He wanted Wentz. I have never changed my take. Hue liked Wentz, didn't think he'd be a good pick at 2 (obviously he proved to be). He LOVED Goff... wanted him badly. No change. Since the report by ESPN's Adam Schefter on Tuesday that the Browns have "split opinions" on Garrett vs. Trubisky at No. 1 overall, I've seen it written several places that Jackson favors Trubisky -- but sources tell cleveland.com he's actually in the Garrett camp.
Folks assume he favors Trubisky because he's the quarterback expert, but he provided five clues at NFL meetings last month that he prefers the Texas A&M pass rusher at No. 1.
First and foremost, he wants a surefire game changer -- the clear-cut best player in the draft.
"Everybody is not the No. 1 pick in the draft,'' Jackson said. "There's maybe only one or two or three guys that can actually be that.
"When you draft a guy as the No. 1 pick in the National Football League, you want him to be a very dominant player, you want him to be a cornerstone player, you want him to be a generational player. That's got to be the focus as we continue to move forward.''
According to most draft experts, Garrett is the only player in this draft who fits that description. What's more, Jackson made it clear that none of the quarterbacks had separated himself from the others at that point. "I think he made that very clear,'' Jackson said on a conference call, via Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot. "If I texted him and said, 'Get ready,' or whatever it is that everybody is saying I said, it probably was 'Be ready for the draft,' and not to become (a Brown). I think he said that very clearly. I think we are making more of this than what it is." Still, this is interesting: Coach Hue Jackson told NFL Network’s Michael Silver which player he wanted the Browns to draft if they had stayed at No. 12. It was Ohio State safety Malik Hooker, who eventually went to the Indianapolis Colts at No. 15.
“To me, he has a chance to be another Ed Reed,” Jackson told Silver, who wrote a behind-the-scenes draft recap story for NFL.com after being embedded at Browns headquarters in Berea and spending time in their war room last week. “When I coached in Baltimore, I saw firsthand what kind of impact a great safety can have.” According to Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com, Jackson admitted that when the Browns took quarterback Cody Kessler with pick No. 93 in the third round, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott was discussed as well.
"We liked [Prescott]," Jackson said. "Obviously, he's shown to be really good. He was definitely a guy that was in consideration, but obviously we have the guy that we took and they have the guy that they took. Everybody has the right guy for them, and he fits for them." In fact, some experts had Kessler pegged as a late-round pick or a priority free agent and one had him ranked as the 17th-best quarterback. He was the sixth one off the board.
"You have to trust me on this one,'' Jackson said. In a recent meeting that included a number of team executives, Cleveland Browns coach Hue Jackson explained with wide eyes to those in attendance, including owner Jimmy Haslam and his wife, what he saw during a private workout from Robert Griffin III last week.
Jackson explained how, at one point when Griffin rolled out in a full sprint to throw a pass, "it felt like the Earth moved beneath my feet," according to team sources. He told them how Griffin's accuracy in passing drills was "freakish." It was surreal and special. It was everything you remember from 2012 -- and everything you have forgotten since. I just might print this out and frame it somewhere at home.
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I just might print this out and frame it somewhere at home. maybe you could put it next to the pic of heckert?
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It seems as if the narrative has changed over the last couple years. false..
Hue had no say... He wanted Wentz. I have never changed my take. Hue liked Wentz, didn't think he'd be a good pick at 2 (obviously he proved to be). He LOVED Goff... wanted him badly. No change. Since the report by ESPN's Adam Schefter on Tuesday that the Browns have "split opinions" on Garrett vs. Trubisky at No. 1 overall, I've seen it written several places that Jackson favors Trubisky -- but sources tell cleveland.com he's actually in the Garrett camp.
Folks assume he favors Trubisky because he's the quarterback expert, but he provided five clues at NFL meetings last month that he prefers the Texas A&M pass rusher at No. 1.
First and foremost, he wants a surefire game changer -- the clear-cut best player in the draft.
"Everybody is not the No. 1 pick in the draft,'' Jackson said. "There's maybe only one or two or three guys that can actually be that.
"When you draft a guy as the No. 1 pick in the National Football League, you want him to be a very dominant player, you want him to be a cornerstone player, you want him to be a generational player. That's got to be the focus as we continue to move forward.''
According to most draft experts, Garrett is the only player in this draft who fits that description. What's more, Jackson made it clear that none of the quarterbacks had separated himself from the others at that point. "I think he made that very clear,'' Jackson said on a conference call, via Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot. "If I texted him and said, 'Get ready,' or whatever it is that everybody is saying I said, it probably was 'Be ready for the draft,' and not to become (a Brown). I think he said that very clearly. I think we are making more of this than what it is." Still, this is interesting: Coach Hue Jackson told NFL Network’s Michael Silver which player he wanted the Browns to draft if they had stayed at No. 12. It was Ohio State safety Malik Hooker, who eventually went to the Indianapolis Colts at No. 15.
“To me, he has a chance to be another Ed Reed,” Jackson told Silver, who wrote a behind-the-scenes draft recap story for NFL.com after being embedded at Browns headquarters in Berea and spending time in their war room last week. “When I coached in Baltimore, I saw firsthand what kind of impact a great safety can have.” According to Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com, Jackson admitted that when the Browns took quarterback Cody Kessler with pick No. 93 in the third round, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott was discussed as well.
"We liked [Prescott]," Jackson said. "Obviously, he's shown to be really good. He was definitely a guy that was in consideration, but obviously we have the guy that we took and they have the guy that they took. Everybody has the right guy for them, and he fits for them." In fact, some experts had Kessler pegged as a late-round pick or a priority free agent and one had him ranked as the 17th-best quarterback. He was the sixth one off the board.
"You have to trust me on this one,'' Jackson said. In a recent meeting that included a number of team executives, Cleveland Browns coach Hue Jackson explained with wide eyes to those in attendance, including owner Jimmy Haslam and his wife, what he saw during a private workout from Robert Griffin III last week.
Jackson explained how, at one point when Griffin rolled out in a full sprint to throw a pass, "it felt like the Earth moved beneath my feet," according to team sources. He told them how Griffin's accuracy in passing drills was "freakish." It was surreal and special. It was everything you remember from 2012 -- and everything you have forgotten since. I just might print this out and frame it somewhere at home. Thank you for this. It further proves my point. Hue is a Team guy.... He is going to pimp whomever is on the team especially at the QB position. Hell, we could sign Uncle Rico and he would probably pimp him. There are plenty of times his initial action (texting Watson) was in one direction and he had to pivot quickly (trading with Houston) and he ended up taking egg to his face and spin it for the betterment of the team. IMO that's the true sign of a coach and a team player.
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Saying he "wonders if Kizer will ever get it" doesn't sound like he's really pimping him the way a true great head would in your opinion.
I see this all the time around here where people cherry pick information to fit their narrative.
This is why there are still some people who believe Baker Mayfield is still the next Johnny, they don't look at the whole picture, they only look at what they want to see.
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Sometimes mirrors can be a helpful tool.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Well, if you can show me a post I've made where I've lied or been deceitful (as you and your friend continually accuse) I'll buy you a watermelon...
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I really like watermelon! lol
That's actually not what I was trying to say. What I'm trying to say is I believe that most every poster is similar to one degree or another in one regard. So it's not about you specifically.
I believe that almost everyone makes their mind up about certain topics. Once their mind is made up they stick to their guns. They buy into anything and everything that supports what they believe and dismiss anything and everything reported that they don't believe.
They will dog MKC and LaCanfora when they write something they disagree with and turn around and quote them when they write something they agree with.
It's nothing new and it isn't isolated to you. We draw our lines in the sand and act accordingly. So I don't see it as being deceitful at all. I just perceive it as we all see what we want to see.
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Sometimes mirrors can be a helpful tool. Sure wish you owned one.
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Reading is fundamental. Try reading my follow up post for an explanation.
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Thank you for this. It further proves my point.
Hue is a Team guy.... He is going to pimp whomever is on the team especially at the QB position.
Hell, we could sign Uncle Rico and he would probably pimp him.
There are plenty of times his initial action (texting Watson) was in one direction and he had to pivot quickly (trading with Houston) and he ended up taking egg to his face and spin it for the betterment of the team.
IMO that's the true sign of a coach and a team player. prob a little of both but yea... hue fell on the sashi knife quit a bit
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I did read it, but expecting you to understand the irony is just asking too much of you.
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Well then I'm sorry I took your post personally. I get enough personal bs from posters... Your post is right, but I highly doubt I'll ever quote MKC. Or Grossi.  I also don't mind the friendly jag from people. It's all fun and I try not to take anything too seriously... carry on
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See, I think Sashi did exactly what he said he was going to do... and either some just changed their mind or didn't really understand.
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j/c: "Gaze up at the tall, green tower of a bar that is Cleveland's 2018 draft commodity. Envision Sashi Brown standing atop the high tower, his cape flapping in the breeze, looking down on the rest of the NFL. Like the Dark Knight himself." Having issues posting the graph. If someone want to do it, have at it.
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j/c: "Gaze up at the tall, green tower of a bar that is Cleveland's 2018 draft commodity. Envision Sashi Brown standing atop the high tower, his cape flapping in the breeze, looking down on the rest of the NFL. Like the Dark Knight himself." Having issues posting the graph. If someone want to do it, have at it. 
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It's almost like. . . this was the plan.
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It's almost like. . . this was the plan. Poor Sashi, if he just took Prescott instead of Kessler or a QB earlier he may have gone on to be the best GM of all time.
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CFRs,
Please show me the quote where Sashi/Depodenta say we got the pick that the organization OR Hue wanted??
We got alot of quotes of Hue saying things after the fact but NONE were sashi/depodesta saying, we got what we wanted or what the coach/team needed..etc.
Yes, Sashi made some good moves to stockpile picks but remember, some of that is due to the Browns losing. And coupled with the youngest team in the NFL AND only building through the draft, we had a team that lost alot BUT was planning for stockpiling picks for a few years.
SO as my original quote said, yes, we can thank Sashi for some of this stockpiling BUT also he gets to share the blame for the losing.
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Please show me the quote where Sashi/Depodenta say we got the pick that the organization OR Hue wanted??
We got alot of quotes of Hue saying things after the fact but NONE were sashi/depodesta saying, we got what we wanted or what the coach/team needed..etc. So you don't believe Hue Jackson? Yes, Sashi made some good moves to stockpile picks but remember, some of that is due to the Browns losing. And coupled with the youngest team in the NFL AND only building through the draft, we had a team that lost alot BUT was planning for stockpiling picks for a few years. It's almost like. . . that was the plan. SO as my original quote said, yes, we can thank Sashi for some of this stockpiling BUT also he gets to share the blame for the losing. Where did I absolve Sashi Brown for us losing? Of course he takes some of the blame (it was also what he was hired to do).
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Yes, Sashi made some good moves to stockpile picks but remember, some of that is due to the Browns losing. And coupled with the youngest team in the NFL AND only building through the draft, we had a team that lost alot BUT was planning for stockpiling picks for a few years. It's almost like. . . that was the plan. This is what I have been saying for weeks. Sashi's job was to set up a GM. In 2016, it would have been very hard to sell a top GM candidate on the job. Sashi took the dirty job of making the job more attractive by overseeing the suck of playing to lose. Now we have a GM's dream; a team with a decent foundation, some promising young players, a ton of cap space, and a bevy of draft picks.
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You make that sound like it was the plan all along.
Get this smart Harvard guy to do the total teardown, accumulate masses of high end high value draft picks and cap room to boot; then fire his backside with a now available plethora of FO superstars to reap the benefits as Johnny Harvard is fated to fall on his sword and take one for the team.
I could almost believe it if i could believe Jimmy could get out of his own way. This guy could fall into a bucket of beautiful perky pert breasts and come out sucking his thumb.......
This wasn't the plan. In typical reactive Jimmy style he's shot his bolt too early and we've potentially lucked into the current FO. Hey as long as we capitalise I guess the end justifies the means.
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I think the fact that Sashi was fired and not retained for a lesser role suggests this wasn't the plan. Your scenario sounds as if Sashi knew he was sacrificing himself for the good of the team. I don't think anyone would agree to a job with being fired as the outcome. I mean, if anything you could say this was Haslam's plan all along and didn't tell Sashi, but I don't think Haslam is that smart or crafty.
Haslam talks a lot to people within NFL circles and I believe these talks had a strong influence on Sashi's firing. But I don't think any of them knew, not even Haslam, how good a job Sashi was doing.
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You make that sound like it was the plan all along.
Get this smart Harvard guy to do the total teardown, accumulate masses of high end high value draft picks and cap room to boot; then fire his backside with a now available plethora of FO superstars to reap the benefits as Johnny Harvard is fated to fall on his sword and take one for the team.
I could almost believe it if i could believe Jimmy could get out of his own way. This guy could fall into a bucket of beautiful perky pert breasts and come out sucking his thumb.......
This wasn't the plan. In typical reactive Jimmy style he's shot his bolt too early and we've potentially lucked into the current FO. Hey as long as we capitalise I guess the end justifies the means. Actually, I do think it was the plan. But I think it was Sashi's plan, not Jimmy's, and he was expecting to win 3-4 games/yr and be able to step back into his previous role instead of getting fired. The problem with his plan is that he did it too well and lost too many games. I know he was part of the hiring process for Dorsey and possibly was party to his own firing. He's young, a smart lawyer, and a millionaire. In a year, he'll have another lucrative job, maybe even back in football.
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It was never part of The Plan. His firing was simply a predictable, but knee-jerk, reaction to the inability of Sashi and Hue to co-exist. It may take a few years, but down the road we will regret this move. I would have terminated the QB Whisperer...
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It was never part of The Plan. His firing was simply a predictable, but knee-jerk, reaction to the inability of Sashi and Hue to co-exist. It may take a few years, but down the road we will regret this move. I would have terminated the QB Whisperer... I wasn't as down on Sashi as some - until the fissure between Hue and Sashi became apparent, I was hoping both would stay. With that said - based on who is now on board with Dorsey, Wolf and Haley - I think we are in much better shape than if Sashi had stayed. We'll see what happens.
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Yes, Sashi made some good moves to stockpile picks but remember, some of that is due to the Browns losing. And coupled with the youngest team in the NFL AND only building through the draft, we had a team that lost alot BUT was planning for stockpiling picks for a few years. It's almost like. . . that was the plan. This is what I have been saying for weeks. Sashi's job was to set up a GM. In 2016, it would have been very hard to sell a top GM candidate on the job. Sashi took the dirty job of making the job more attractive by overseeing the suck of playing to lose. Now we have a GM's dream; a team with a decent foundation, some promising young players, a ton of cap space, and a bevy of draft picks. You gotta wonder, what if that's the exact reason that Hue didn't get chopped....?
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You make that sound like it was the plan all along.
Get this smart Harvard guy to do the total teardown, accumulate masses of high end high value draft picks and cap room to boot; then fire his backside with a now available plethora of FO superstars to reap the benefits as Johnny Harvard is fated to fall on his sword and take one for the team.
I could almost believe it if i could believe Jimmy could get out of his own way. This guy could fall into a bucket of beautiful perky pert breasts and come out sucking his thumb.......
This wasn't the plan. In typical reactive Jimmy style he's shot his bolt too early and we've potentially lucked into the current FO. Hey as long as we capitalise I guess the end justifies the means. Actually, I do think it was the plan. But I think it was Sashi's plan, not Jimmy's, and he was expecting to win 3-4 games/yr and be able to step back into his previous role instead of getting fired. The problem with his plan is that he did it too well and lost too many games. I know he was part of the hiring process for Dorsey and possibly was party to his own firing. He's young, a smart lawyer, and a millionaire. In a year, he'll have another lucrative job, maybe even back in football. The only problem that I have with this is a quote from one of DePo's intro interviews where he talks about one of the discussions he had with Jimmy before coming onboard. He said this whole analytic-based approach combined with the massive teardown would result in A LOT of pain... and that Jimmy agreed to weather the storm to allow the plan to run its course. I think Jimmy bailed on the plan when it got real painful (like DePo said it would). ... and yes, I think all of this was part of the plan. They probably assumed they could fall into a couple more wins over the last 2 seasons. But I think the plan was to suck.
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well not to Suck...lol.
But the plan was an all out rebuild...its done n over n we are in year 3... time for the plan to produce.
Thank you Sashi but you should have taken Wentz n you would have been here. Thanks but goodbye all the best.
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well not to Suck...lol.
But the plan was an all out rebuild...its done n over n we are in year 3... time for the plan to produce.
Thank you Sashi but you should have taken Wentz n you would have been here. Thanks but goodbye all the best. PSA: Sashi did not take Wentz because Hue stated that Wentz wasn't worthy of the 2nd overall pick. No GM - not even Evil Sashi - would pick a QB that his QB-whisperer, Head Coach stated was not worthy of the pick required. Hue's hands are all over the decision to pass on Wentz and Watson.
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But I think the plan was to suck. I was on board with everything until you said this. The plan wasn't to suck. Sucking was a byproduct of the plan. If we were to go back in time with our current team and redo the 2016 draft we would certainly take Wentz. Our upperclassmen so to speak made it a point that we weren't ready for him at the time. We are where we are now (a lot closer to a dynasty) due in large part to the Wentz deal. We hem-haw back and forth on whose fault it was that we didn't draft Wentz, but the fact remains the ENTIRE organization was on board with passing on him. And I'm sure they talked about the consequences that could come with passing on him. The consequences just exceeded their wildest imaginations. And here we are...
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